Donald Trump doesn’t want people to think the Russians helped him in 2016. Maybe not, but their goal was to stop Hillary Clinton, and that included doing things to help Bernie Sanders in the primaries, and Green Party candidate Jill Stein, in the general election.

The Hill noted that Stein’s vote totals were higher than Trump’s margin of victory in the critical Midwestern states.

In Michigan, Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton by 10,704 votes, while Stein got 51,463 votes, according to current totals on the state’s official website. And in Wisconsin, Trump’s margin over Clinton was 22,177, while Stein garnered 31,006 votes. In Pennsylvania, meanwhile, Stein’s total of 49,485 votes was just slightly smaller than Trump’s victory margin of 67,416 votes, according to the state’s latest numbers. . .

Of course, the Russian release of Democratic emails had a one-two punch against Hillary. First, much of the public thought they were the infamous “Hillary server” emails, which Trump had asked the Russians to hack—and they began to, that very day, according to Business Insider.

More importantly, the release of the Democratic National Committee emails rubbed salt in the wounds of Bernie supporters, at a time when the party was trying to come together. In fact, Bernie supporters even booed Bernie when he campaigned for Hillary.

The convention was supposed to be the moment of unity after a bitterly competitive primary between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. But the hacked emails, showing that DNC officials who were supposed to be neutral were privately belittling Sanders and his campaign, came out on the very first night. . .

Now new indictments released by special counsel Robert Mueller allege that the release of the hacked DNC emails was timed to hit during the convention for maximum impact: Mueller’s latest indictments suggest Russian intelligence agents and WikiLeaks planned to engineer discord between Sanders and Clinton supporters. Some former Sanders delegates say this is an obvious conclusion, given President Trump’s open call to Russia to find Clinton campaign emails.

“I don’t think anyone who is paying attention is surprised to hear that Russia hacked the DNC, that Russia released the emails,” said Ray McKinnon, a pastor and 2016 Sanders delegate from North Carolina. “They played on people’s heartfelt dislike and their own emotions for their own purpose. That was real then and it’s real now.”. . .

If WikiLeaks and the Russians wanted conflict, they got it. Even as Sanders actively encouraged his supporters to get out and vote for Clinton at the 2016 convention, he was booed at almost every turn. Many Sanders supporters jeered at mentions of Clinton’s name at the convention and were adamant that Sanders would be the better choice to run against Trump. . .

Meanwhile, the National Review says the latest release of information from the Robert Mueller investigation of Russian hacking says there was a Trump-Bernie connection (not to say collusion).

A list of exhibits filed in a Virginia federal court Wednesday by Special Counsel Robert Mueller includes emails between Paul Manafort and former Bernie Sanders aide Tad Devine. Devine, Sanders’s chief strategist during his 2016 presidential run, is a former business partner in Manafort’s lobbying operation, which is at the center of the case. . .

The filing, submitted Wednesday night, lists a number of emails and other communications between Devine and Manafort sent between February 2010 and June 2014.

Politico says the Russians seemed to have an anybody-but-Hillary approach.

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was the beneficiary of at least one of the Russian-bought political ads on Facebook that federal government officials suspect were intended to influence the 2016 election.

Other advertisements paid for by shadowy Russian buyers criticized Hillary Clinton and promoted Donald Trump. Some backed Bernie Sanders and his platform even after his presidential campaign had ended, according to a person with knowledge of the ads. . .

The ads show a complicated effort that didn’t necessarily hew to promoting Trump and bashing Clinton. Instead, they show a desire to create divisions while sometimes praising Trump, Sanders and Stein. A number of the ads seemed to question Clinton’s authenticity and tout some of the liberal criticisms of her candidacy.

Bernie doesn’t want to talk about it.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders declined to directly address Friday’s revelation that Russian actors sought to boost his presidential primary campaign and sink Hillary Clinton’s in 2016, instead insisting that the special counsel’s investigation proceed unimpeded.

The indictment revealed that the efforts included “operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

Russian “specialists were instructed to post content that focused on ‘politics in the USA’ and to ‘use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump—we support them.),’” the indictment continued. It said that message was sent around Feb. 10, 2016, the day after both Sanders and Trump won their respective parties’ all-important New Hampshire primary contest.

As Bernie says, the only person who doesn’t seem to accept that the Russians were working to Trump’s benefit, is Donald Trump.


  1. Why didn’t they want Hillary? Was it because of her plastic “Reset” button? Her grandma clothes?

    Or was it because Russia wanted to create chaos? Isn’t that why Russia wants the dems to win in the midterm elections? Wouldn’t the D’s winning create even more chaos?

    I think we know Russia only wants to divide and conquer the US. They could care less who is president, right?

    • Politico said it was direct payback:

      When mass protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

      With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared.

  2. I just can’t imagine the Rooskies WANTING Donald Trump over Hillbilly Clinton. It does NOT compute! Hell, she GAVE the Rooskies 20% of our Uranium for Heavens sakes! They think Donald Trump is going to BEND OVER for them MORE THAN THAT? No way, Jose!

    • If the agreement today between President Trump and Jean-Claude Juncker of the EU comes to fruition, the Russians will be screwed. If the US cuts into the Russian monopoly of selling LNG to Europe, the Ruskies will be kicking themselves.?

      But of course all this talk of Trump colluding with Russia is just a way for the Democrats to convince themselves that they were cheated. In reality they got their derrieres kicked.?

      • Not all European countries belong to the European Union so Jean-Claude Juncker does not speak for Russia (who has the gas monopoly in Europe), and the 18 other countries that did not join his union. Russia has the world’s biggest supply of natural gas and supplies over 40 per cent of Europe’s gas. The others that do not belong to Junker’s union include the United Kingdom (who just resigned from the European Union), Norway, Monaco, Switzerland, Turkey, Iceland, Vatican City, Ukraine, Macedonia, and Albania to name a few of the 18.

        Trump has always been clear that he doesn’t think Russia did anything wrong, doesn’t want the full details to become known, doesn’t want anyone punished, and has no particular interest in making sure they don’t do it again. And that, itself, is perhaps the most powerful evidence of collusion.

        • This attack at all costs mentality that the Democrats and their adherents have is going to be their undoing. Robert Mueller has been Special Counsel in charge of finding this alleged collusion for far too long. So far Mueller has indicted some Russian oligarchs and done little else except for dredge up things on Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen from over a decade ago.?

          The American public is getting sick and tired of these constant attacks on President Trump. Attacks that have no merit. The Democrats are going to pay dearly at the ballot box this coming November.?

          • Mueller has probably drudged up a lot of other things, too. Such as Donald Trump’s connection to Russia and Russian interests which dates back more than 35 years. Just a decade ago, in 2008, Trump was in Russia, having wine and dining with the Russian oligarchy.

            At the time, Trump was still trying to raise Russian money to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. He didn’t get to build the tower but he did cultivate ties with very wealthy Russians to whom he later sold exclusive Florida real estate at incredible prices saving Trump from another bankruptcy petition.

            The November ballot box may hold a surprise for many Republicans running for U S offices. Donald Trump’s approval rating has ping-ponged between a low of 35% and a high of 45% during his time in the presidential office — the worst record of any of the last seven presidents, according to Gallup.

            • Correct me if I am wrong. Until Donald J Trump declared he was running for president, I think he was a private citizen. Unless you are jealous of the wealthy then you should have no problem with a businessman any businessman to deal all over the world to further his business. Don’t tell me that the green eyed monster known as envy has clouded your perspective.?

              As far as Donald J Trump the private businessman selling land and or property to wealthy Russians I see no problem. If the land wasn’t his to sell then you have a point, if it was his property you argument is at best shallow and at worst vacuous.?

              As far as the outcome of this years midterm elections I guess we both will have to wait and see. However except for a few token victories for the Democrats all the reporting I have seen point to a GOP landslide. I suspect all Democrats are going to have another nasty day after.?

            • Being a private citizen does not exclude one from being condemned for breaking the rules of common decency. Neither does it condone destroying others with lies and ridicule which is a Trump speciality.

              At the time of this sale, Trump was having financial difficulties. No US bank would give Trump a loan. So, Trump used his old standby and filed one more Chapter 11 court bankruptcy. This time for Trump Entertainment Resorts. Trump had no available credit lines as no American bank would loan Trump money. There are no available court records of the exact amount Trump borrowed or the terms for repayment. The only public knowledge confirmed is that the loans were from Saudi Arabia and Russia. What Trump signed or promised to do to repay the loans is unknown. But we all know when you borrow money, you are indebted to the lender, and one way or another, the piper must be paid.

              At the moment, Trump’s biggest worry is what precisely does the Southern District of New York want to know from Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, who was subpoenaed to appear in their court. Weisselberg knows everything there is to know about Trump, his income tax returns, his income sources, his pay outs, and all the Trump family finances.

            • You seem to be implying that nothing is provable except for those with a mindset that want to find Ill intent. I suppose if these same folks really wanted to chow down on unadulterated greed and interference with the American electoral system they could look at the Clinton Foundation. How much money was donated from foreign governments for supposed charitable purposes? How much of this money found its way into the Clinton war chest? I guess some things that are close to hitting you in the face don’t want to be found out by zealots. You wouldn’t be in this group would you??

            • It’s never a qualified idea to lump another person in a certain category until you know how that person actually voted. One thing we know for certain is that Hilary Clinton won the country’s popular vote.

              Trump won the presidency by 58% of the electoral vote which is not the great victory he claims. Hilary Clinton became the fifth presidential candidate in US history to win the popular vote but lose the presidential office. Now the very states, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, that made Trump’s win possible are suffering the most from his farm and coal policies.

              No one, including the Clinton Foundation (who has been legally cleared), has received more gifts of foreign money than the Donald J Trump Foundation. The New York attorney general just filed a lawsuit against the Donald J Trump charitable foundation, as well as Donald Trump himself and three of his children, claiming they violated state charity and federal election laws.

            • Like I said a few posts back we both will have to wait until the Midterms to see who is right. As far as my lumping you in with a group of people until I knew how you voted, that is an absolutely ludicrous statement. As in most things in life unless you know a person closely with the majority of details about the individual you can only make an educated guess. I may be wrong and you are a diehard fan of Donald J Trump, but I don’t think so.?

              From your own figures Donald J Trump got 58% of the electoral college and Billary only 41% with maybe 1% split between the Green party and Peace &Freedom. I don’t know what you think is a large amount for victory but somewhere in the vicinity of a 17% margin of victory over your closest opponent is rather substantial. After the election I wouldn’t have wanted to be Bill Clinton for all the money in the world. I understand that poor old Billary was quite the sobbing lush.??

              You are absolutely correct in saying that Billary won the popular vote. But have audits of all the blue states concerning their voters been made yet? Have the votes of dead people, illegals and those who voted multiple times been factored into that Popular vote victory? Seems rather tarnished to me but I suppose you have to give the megalomaniac something otherwise she will keep on making poor old Bubba’s life a living hell.?

            • I had always heard that 55% was a rule of thumb for a “landslide,” but I was surprised that there doesn’t seem to be a consensus on it. So, in this case, Trump could probably claim a “landslide” in the Electoral College. Of course, it’s usually applied to the popular vote.

              Fifty-five percent doesn’t seem like much, until you realize the most the opponent could get would be 45%. That’s a huge difference.

              To me, a “landslide” is a win that is so large that there is absolutely no question as to who won. Sometimes losers have conceded as early as 10 pm or so, to get it over with.

  3. In 2012 Trump called the Electoral College “a disaster for democracy”. In 2016, when Trump won the presidency, he praised the “genius” of the Electoral College system.

    The fact that Trump lost the popular vote takes the shine off any Electoral College victory. From 1952 to 2012, the winning presidential candidate got an average of 73 percent of the electoral votes, well above Trump’s 57 percent. With known help from the Russian, Trump managed to eke into the presidency and is busy reinventing the way our government will work.

    Trump’s trade policies are financially punishing the agriculture sector where his staunchest supporter’s live. Their livelihood depends on their farm’s income. The president’s crackdown on immigration lowered refugee quotas and accelerated the deportation of undocumented workers. Trump’s action drastically lowers the supply of workers (illegal immigrants) willing to pick their crops, pluck their poultry and pack their meat for a price below the minimum wage for up to 10 and 12 hours a day. When the pocketbook suffers outlooks can change.

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