Democrats have been throwing around the words “Watergate” and “Impeachment” for weeks. Few Independents have taken the talk seriously, and of course, Republicans have laughed, so the claims have remained “loose talk.” Even the Watergate scandal did not become a problem for Richard Nixon until Republicans, most notably, Howard Baker, began to ask questions, too.

While the complaints about Donald Trump do not seem dangerous at this time, some Republicans are questioning the changing and conflicting explanations from the White House. And now, Republican Senator John McCain has actually used the word, “Watergate,” according to The Hill.

Arizona Sen. John McCain (R) reportedly said Tuesday that scandals within President Trump’s administration are reaching a “Watergate size and scale.” . . .

McCain’s statement came just hours after a bombshell report that Trump asked former FBI Director James Comey inFebruary to stop his investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Trump has faced a major fallout over the last week following his surprise firing of Comey and reports that he revealed highly confidential information to Russian diplomats.

McCain also reportedly criticized Trump during his speech, calling it “unacceptable” to have allowed Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov into the Oval Office. . .

McCain said the advice he would give Trump is the same others would give Nixon: “Get it all out.” Meaning tell the full truth now

McCain says having Russian foreign minister Lavrov in the Oval Office is just “unacceptable” due to Russian abuses.

The current crisis for Trump is due to the one-two punch of the firing of FBI chief James Comey, followed by his secret meeting [American media were banned] with Russian officials and bragging about intelligence that ISIS was planning to use laptop computers to blow up planes. We received that information from Israel, who has a spy planted inside ISIS.

Comey has not told his side of the story, but as a pre-emptive strike, Trump warned Comey in a tweet, “James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes; of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!”, according to Breitbart.

It would be perfectly in character for this to be a bluff. After all, who can remember everything that was said? Might Comey have said something untoward? So it might make a person hesitate to take on Trump.

However, during a time of warnings about Watergate, is it really wise to suggest that a president has tapes–the very thing that brought down Richard Nixon? And now, there’s also a call–by Republicans–for Trump to provide Congress with the tape that purports to exonerate Trump, according to the Weekly Standard. Another major Republican figure is also turning up the heat on Trump, according to TheBlaze.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) has sent a letter with a demand to the FBI that could spell a lot of problems for President Trump – it asks for all communications produced between former FBI Director Comey and the president to investigate alleged obstruction of justice.. . .

Chaffetz, the chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, had said on his social media account that he would make sure the Comey memo was produced, even if he had to file a subpoena for it. “I need to see it sooner rather than later,” he posted, “I have my subpoena pen ready.”

That’s regarding the Trump-Comey meeting. Meanwhile, there are calls for transcripts of the Trump-Russians meeting, too, according to The Hill.

Lawmakers in both parties called for the White House to hand over transcripts of the meeting after Trump himself acknowledged earlier Tuesday that he shared sensitive information with the Russians.
 
White House officials have not denied that Trump shared classified information with Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, though they have pushed back on the idea that the revelation would have negative repercussions for the U.S. . . .

“For the purpose of transparency, the White House should share a transcript of the meeting with the House and Senate intelligence committees,” Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.), a former intelligence officer, tweeted Tuesday.

Now, Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered to provide transcripts of the Trump-Russians meeting–but it’s a question whether that helps Trump, or if a Russian transcript could be believed.

Trump’s real problem right now is that Comey wrote a memo at the time of the Trump meeting–before he had any reason to think there was friction with Trump. The memo gives Comey’s impression that Trump was pressuring him to halt the investigation of whether there was a link between Russian meddling in our election and the Trump campaign.

The National Review says, “the allegation is serious, and there is no good outcome.”

Here is the alleged chain of events: First, Trump asked Comey to drop an investigation of a close former associate and a former senior official in his administration. Second, Comey refused. Third, weeks later Trump fired Comey. Fourth, Trump then misled the American people regarding the reason for the dismissal. Each prong is important, but it’s worth noting that the fourth prong — Trump’s deception regarding the reason for Comey’s termination — is particularly problematic in context. Deception is classic evidence of malign intent.

All of this is worrying the GOP, according to the Washington Examiner.

Republicans in Congress fear President Trump could torpedo their majorities if he doesn’t save his White House from constant crisis and pivot to the issues voters elected him to deal with.

Things have gotten so bad that even Ann Coulter is ready to jump ship, according to Fox News Insider and the Daily Caller.

Ann Coulter was one of President Donald Trump’s most outspoken supporters during the 2016 election, but so far she’s been underwhelmed by his presidency.

In an interview with The Daily Caller on Sunday, Coulter said she still has hope in Trump, but she is ready to jump ship if things don’t change.

“I’m not very happy with what has happened so far,” Coulter said. “I guess we have to try to push him to keep his promises. But this isn’t North Korea, and if he doesn’t keep his promises, I’m out. This is why we voted for him. I think everyone who voted for him knew his personality was grotesque, it was the issues.”

Things look bad for Trump right now. But even with Republicans beginning to turn against him, one should remember that even Watergate took two full years to lead to Nixon’s resignation.

UPDATE

Since this article was written (yesterday!) there’s been a major development. We now have a “special counsel” looking into the Russian actions in our election last year. It’s being reported that Former FBI chief Robert Mueller is a “special prosecutor.” He’s actually a “special counsel.” A special prosecutor is independent. A special counsel is brought in, within the Justice Department, when the department might have a conflict of interest.

Interestingly, Attorney General Jeff Sessions had recused himself, so it was up to Rod Rosenstein, Deputy Attorney General, to appoint the special counsel. He did this without consulting Trump, who got the news afterward, but took it well.

It is likely that we will begin to see a more “presidential” Donald Trump, as he was near the end of the campaign. Instead of shooting from the hip, he started speaking from a teleprompter (just as he had criticized Barack Obama for doing). It led to his election. Now, the incentive is to keep him from saying something, well, stupid, that could get him indicted.

Aides are now urging Trump to tweet and speak cautiously. “I think he actually understands what a mess this is,” one person said. “He has lawyers telling him nonstop what the stakes are here.”

And, as always, Trump is more worried about image than substance.

On Wednesday night, a person close to him said, Trump was in the White House residence talking to friends and associates about how it was playing on TV.

87 COMMENTS

  1. Impeachment didn’t seem to hinder Bill Clinton in any way. Unless the next step, conviction, is taken, why should it matter to Donald Trump?

            • How come all Republicans are completely immune to sarcasm? Do you all have to take a test to determine that you have no reading comprehension or sense of humor before you’re let into the cult?

            • Take a look in the mirror!
              I told Nate, that he wasn’t a republican (sarcasm) because his past actions on the floor and thruout the elections. He has been known to go against party votes which is why I didn’t need to check if your 100% comment was right.

              If you haven’t already figured it out, Nate leans right and Goethe left.

              It would be great if you could just not be so ugly.

            • Goethe is centre-right.

              McCain likes to talk, but when it comes to voting he is as predictable as the rest of them.

            • That’s the problem with the country. We’ve become a nation of haters.

              Reagan said this:
              “The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally
              – not a 20 percent traitor.”

              Think about it. If you have a group of people who agree 100% of the time, you don’t need that group of people. You only need one–to dictate everything.

            • No the problem with the country is that the freedom to exchange ideas have come under attack. I have been called a ton of horrible names. When we do talk policy it tends to work itself out. But that is not the liberal playbook. For the most part it is an all or nothing. Did you vote for Trump? Then you are a racist xenophobe bigot hell bent of taking away women’s rights.
              Well no. That is not who I am. And I am going to call out these liars for who they are. These nasty ugly people that will not take the time to sit and understand where we come from. It is far time for most conservatives to stand up and say no to the Rino’s and the liberals. Time to push back. I’m frankly tired of them closing down streets and venues. The teachers are even behaving badly. We are a freaking laughingstock. I had the privilege of listening to Maxine on Morning Joe. Holy cow! Seriously, she has gone off the deep end. It seems to happen to most liberal Democrats. ?

            • Well, there are obnoxious people on both sides. We tend to be slightly embarrassed by jerks with whom we agree–but are horrified by the jerks on the other side, and think they’re worse. I’ve noticed on our site that the people who post come and go. If someone becomes too obnoxious, we just ban them from the site, so the obnoxiousness goes from one side to the other.

              Right now, I tend to agree with you that there’s more venom on the left, but that’s because they’ve been totally stomped down. The right owns the Supreme Court, the Presidency, both houses of Congress, most of the Governorships, and most of the State Legislatures. It’s easy to see why the left has hurt feelings. In 2008 and 2012, it was the other way.

              Remember that, psychologically, anger comes from fear. If someone feels in complete control, he or she doesn’t get angry. Anger is just the acting out of the sense of powerlessness.

            • I completely agree that anger is always the second emotion. That is precisely the reason to become logical. To be careful with the facts and to be as honest with the past as with the future.
              They have continuously loss voters. I truly believe that OBAMA failed the party in so many ways. I never voted for him, but stood by and waited to see if he would in fact create change. He did alright. It is much worse then ever. I remember Rodney King days. These days you can definitely tell when money and greed became the true power. It started under Bush/Clinton and I am hopeful that it stops with Obama.
              It is time the Democrats either rise up and become a better party or they can continue to shame white people, and Republicans. Which is disturbing because Obama is half White. In fact, many people are now mixed race. We are going backwards. Harvard just had a separate graduation for black people. What’s next, let’s segregate by gender, race, and color? This is so wrong. The spend so much time talking about the disadvantages, but let me tell you something, any person can make it in the USA.
              People wait years to come to our great country. We are fortunate to live here. We should work hard to keep it great, safe, and prosperous. Not destroy it. Not ask for rights to be taken away, or ask for additional taxation when we are already taxed enough.

            • It’s one thing to lose an election because your views aren’t popular. It’s another thing entirely to have the minority steal power through corruption and cheating.

              As for “venom,” it’s important to take into account the source of anger. I get angry when Republicans enrich themselves by stealing from the poor, the unemployed and the homeless, or when they take away the rights of people who happen to have the wrong skin color or sexual identity.

              Republicans get angry when the President is black, or when a woman goes to the bathroom. If they can’t find anything else to be angry about, they make up a child prostitution ring run out of a pizza place.

              These things are not equivalent.

            • If those 20% consist of:

              – free range for police to assassinate black men
              – guns everywhere
              – take away LGBTQ+ civil rights
              – dismantle democracy
              – ignore human rights
              – make friends with genocidal dictators

              …then it really doesn’t matter if we have the same taste in ice cream. You’d still be a toxic sack of garbage.

            • No, he didn’t. You guys did. Remember how you all lost your damn minds because Obama was holding a cup of coffee once? That was all you.

            • Not me. I could care less if Obama held a cup of coffee. I did care when he gave Iran a ton of money. Iran. Why? They hate the US.

            • Not sure which Breitbart conspiracy theory you’re alluding too. This one?

              http://www.snopes.com/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/

              Turns out the Republican spin was just the regular BS. Quote:

              “However, the $400 million dollar transfer was actually an openly announced one, paid in settlement of a nearly 40-year dispute between Iran and the United States — a settlement that likely saved the United States several billion dollars.”

              We need to pay our debts even to countries with scary brown Muslims, you know. The US isn’t a Trump company that can just cheat and get away with it.

              Remember that time when Republicana were outraged that Obama was allegedly a “secret homosexual” and had a relationship with his college roommate?

              Remember the tantrum you guys threw over the “scandal” that Obama happened to be from the same city as some guy called Saul Alinsky?

              Seems kinda silly now, huh?

            • I can’t read something that you haven’t linked, snowflake.

              Why don’t you tell me right here which conspiracy theory it is that you’ve been duped by?

            • It worked for me as well. It’s an opinion piece from The Federalist, i.e. not relevant.

              The problem is hgb accused me of not being able to read in the same comment as he posted the link. Obviously I couldn’t have read his link before then, since he hadn’t posted it.

            • I provided a link. See above your last comment.

              To bad you didn’t follow the news during Kerrys Iran give away deal.

            • It’s an opinion piece. It’s irrelevant. Provide a link to an actual news story with facts.

              And answer the question, snowflake. Why should rural votes be worth more than urban votes?

            • Your links are also opinions. Junk. Crap. Not a quality word in any piece.

              Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons, all GOP establishment, and all Democrat establishment politicians are crooked as all get out. You won’t believe your holier than thou liberals are guilty but it’s the truth.

            • “However, the $400 million dollar transfer was actually an openly announced one, paid in settlement of a nearly 40-year dispute between Iran and the United States — a settlement that likely saved the United States several billion dollars.”

              This is just what the Obama Administration used as the excuse. It hadn’t been paid in 40 years and probably never would have been paid until Iran made some major changes.

            • Are you already forgetting about the policeman and the professor. Obama was the first to start the racial thing and thought he could fix it with a beer party. Obama jumped to conclusions before knowing the facts of a case and that’s why he seemed racist in the first place. The problem was he did not discontinue the practice and kept if up throughout his presidency. Whenever there was a racial problem he always blamed the police or the white people for instigating it. The police and white people were not the ones causing all the destruction in these cities. And, I didn’t see Obama doing much to stop it. For instance, road blocks. If I come upon anyone blocking the road with a protest they better move because I’m not going to stop and see if they want to attack me. I have been attacked before (back in the 60’s) and it will not happen again.

    • Sorry. They haven’t wised up at all. The GOP wanted their Bushy boy. It was his turn. They hate Trump. They and the left won’t ever give Trump a chance. However Millions of Americans will

        • Chance to be president. They, the GOP establishment, never wanted him. Only their Bushy boy. Well, they could have lived with a fellow politician.

          Ryan is a phony. Claims he didn’t know about the tactics Reid used when the dems were in the minority. Foolishness. Or maybe Reid was a genius.

          • It’s usually a false complaint. “Give him a chance” would apply to foreign policy. Let’s see if his erratic approach will help. Both parties should support a president regarding foreign affairs. But that doesn’t mean “unquestioningly.”

            However, in domestic matters, it’s not reasonable to ask “give him a chance” to do more damage to his “enemies.”

            • Not in my 73 year world. I supported JFK unquestionably. Both domestically and internationally.

              The problem is you, Rush, the far left and the far right. You all don’t want people to get along. That’s the reality we live in today.

            • JFK was the last president who was seen as president of all the people, except in time of foreign crisis. And he’s the only president that both parties seem to embrace and even try to own.

              Actually, I much prefer people like you and jsilcott1 to the name callers on either side. While it’s my job to bring “what’s being said” to you, I’d much rather have a reasonable discussion. In fact, “in real life,” I much prefer talking with people with whom I disagree. If two people agree, do you really need them both in the discussion?

            • Exactly. I know people who are only happy if I totally agree with them. It doesn’t work that. Example: Fox News tends to stretch the truth. Nope, they say. Yes they do.

            • I don’t agree. I agreed domestically and internationally with JFK. However things have unfortunately changed.

              Obama, not Trump, already did damage domestically. Did he encourage rioting? The destruction of public and private property? Yes. Now Trump must clean up his mess.

            • Yeah. That’s the point. Most people respected JFK. Nobody questioned foreign policy at that time (although we learned that we should have).

              How did Obama get into this thread? Weren’t we talking about not making wild partisan claims??

            • Obama got into the thread because I was of topic. That and I’m emailing you from the Philippines. What does the Philippines have to do with anything. Well, the Internet is so bad here. What does that have to with anything. Well it gets frustrating typing and then retyping something. So eventually I lose my concentration.

              You see I know your wise. So I research everything. Well eventually I have to give up as the response takes forever.

            • Interesting. Are you a citizen of the Philippines, or just working there? I have liked your sense of humor.

              Sorry to hear it, but it is good to hear that someone has worse internet connections than we do in the US of A. We keep hearing about the European and Japanese being so far ahead of us in fiber networks, etc.

            • I’m a US citizen. Nevada where I voted allows Internet voting. I follow the news through the papers (we get the Times, etc) and of course on TV.

      • *Moved from other post*

        You’re right. Wisdom has never been a quality of the GOP.

        How many more chances to screw things up do you feel he should be afforded? He has already shown grave incompetence in every regard to date. At best. Or actively vile, dangerous and unconstitutional at worst.

        He proved he was unfit even before taking office so I see no reason to continue to allow this child to play with matches near the gas pumps.

        And the millions you refer to have another name. The minority.

        • The millions I referred to comprised 83% of the US counties Trump won. That’s a majority.

          But you don’t think their votes count. You think only those votes in the big states should count.

          We have the electoral college for a reason. It isn’t going away.

          Hello! Trump hasn’t even been president for a year. He’ll accomplish a lot in 4 or 8 years.

          Will babies like yourself stop the pathetic whining? You lost. Got fired. Grow up.

            • I happen to live in a large city. My state went for Hillary. Trump won the electoral college as we all know. Case closed. He’s the president.

            • You didn’t answer the question. Why should the votes of rural people be worth more than those of urban people?

            • You’d said why was my vote in a rural area more important. So that’s why I responded the way I did.

              Anyway, those votes in rural areas shouldn’t be worth more than in urban areas. As you know the founding fathers developed the system. Sure politics was involved but Goethe covered the reason for it.

              Even if politics hadn’t been involved the president represents the United States. Not just those in the big cities. A win of 83% of the counties is a majority. Rural or urban.

            • It’s a majority of counties. If you split a red county into two, you’d have two red counties. If the President were to be decided by winning a majority of counties, we could just give each Hillary voter their own county. Then she would’ve won 63 million counties.

              You may be able to see now why winning a majority of counties means nothing. In a democracy, represantatives are chosen by the voters – not by arbitrary county lines on a map.

              You say rural votes shouldn’t be worth more than urban. If all votes were of equal worth, Hillary Clinton would be President as a clear majority voted for her. So, you think Hillary should be President?

            • You seem to get dumber by the comment. When will you realize that the Constitution set up the way elections would be run. the electoral system was set up to avoid one particular area or party to control an election. It would be much more difficult to control the outcome of an election when you do it by counties vs by individual votes. It is simply a balancing mechanism. If you want it changed contact your representative, but, don’t hold your breath.

            • Lol. How did Up come up with 63 million counties? Should have thought big and said 63 trillion countries.

            • hgb: It was the number of voters.

              UpIsDown’s point was that votes of people should matter, not the dirt they stand on.

              So he said, “If the President were to be decided by winning a majority of counties, we could just give each Hillary voter their own county.”

            • No Hillary shouldn’t be president. She lost the electoral college right?

              When I read that Hillary watched Trumps acceptance speech sitting with the Bushes it only confirmed my believe that our political system is corrupt. Hillary would have continued the coruption.

              Hopefully Trump can “drain the Swamp.”

            • I voted in a large city. My state went to Hillary. But president Trump won. He’s president. Period. The office must be respected.

            • One problem most people don’t know about is that the Electoral College is not commensurate with the number of voters or population. Yes, larger states have more electors, but smaller states have more electors-per-voter.

            • Correct. And that’s only one of many problems with the Republican idea that the Electoral College should be given the power to contradict the will of the voters.

              They love saying that Democrats win “only a few big states.” What they fail to take into account is that people from all over the country move to some of those big states for various reasons. Deep Republican states are hostile to and directly unsafe for many people, including gay men, lesbian women, black people and other people of color, transgender people, liberal and progressive people, women who want to have a say in their own reproductive rights, etc.

              These people are of course more likely to vote Democrat than the average white man, since the Republican party hates them.

              But once they move to a place where they can have decent lives, Republicans can write off their votes as “coastal elites” whose voices don’t matter.

            • Your views/writing are all over the place. It’s absolutely untrue that Republicans hate the groups you mentioned. Perhaps some do but that’s their problem.

              Your argument about a Republican moving to a blue state, and it making a difference doesn’t make sense. Do you really think that if 100 Republicans, or even 1,000 Republicans, moved to California that it would make a dent in the outcome of the vote?

          • Trump did not win with a majority. The majority of decent Americans can see clearly how much of a childish, petulant, incompetent, crass, racist, misogynist imbecile he is. We are just awaiting the minority to catch up.

            Every American’s vote should have equal weight. Where you live is irrelevant. A rural vote outweighing an urban one is undemocratic.

            Trump hasn’t been president for a year yet, but look at the damage he has already done and wishes to continue to do. We will continue to defend American values against this destructive troglodyte.

            We’re jews whining when Hitler took power? Speaking out against injustice and erosion of our values and constitution isn’t mere whining. It is entirely justified outrage given the evidence provided on a daily basis of the vast regression to the dark ages under Trump. Look at the “whining” of Republicans under Obama. Did they refrain from whining? No. Difference here though is they had nothing to whine ABOUT.

            And that is your third strike regarding ad hominem personal attack. Which loses you the debate. Thanks for playing though.

            • Trump won the electoral college. Majority or not.

              Name the damage that Trump Has done. You can’t. Not the supposedly partisan damage but the actual damage. You can’t, right?

              Huge difference between the jews under Hitler and Trump. It’s not comparable.

              Yes, Republicans whined about Obama. According to their beliefs Obama did a lot of damage internationally. I disagreed with 3 of his moves.

              1. His Iran deal was extremely bad. 2. His snubbing of Israel 3. His calling ISIS the jv team.

  2. This is already a much bigger scandal than Watergate, and we’re only in the beginning of finding things out. Trump could have Watergates in a week and it wouldn’t be any different from any other Trump week.

    Considering Flynn said he would only testify in exchange for immunity, and that Flynn and his lawyers are refusing to cooperate with the congressional subpoena for his documents, it seems pretty clear that he’s hiding something huge.

    I sincerely hope all these crooks end up rotting in jail, or better yet in the ground next to that rapist scumbag Roger Ailes.

      • He is a lifelong sexual abuser. If you identify with him in any way, I suggest you turn yourself in to the authorities immediately.

          • I wouldn’t compare consensual affairs with sexual abuse. Only Republicans would do that, since they don’t understand the concept of consent.

  3. This is all ado about nothing. The Democrats and RINO’S like McCain have been throwing around impeachment from before President Trump was sworn in. They are taking a page from Joseph Goebbels book: ‘Tell a big enough lie often enough and it will be accepted as truth’.?

    Has President Trump helped himself recently? No he hasn’t. Are the Democrats making a mountain out of a mole hill? Yes they are. This entire fiasco will end up with the Democrats and Anti Trumpers shooting their wad and wind up with nothing to show for it.?

    Hope that this episode pleasures your rabid supporters. Unfortunately when this blows up in your faces, even they will realize that you have been yanking their chain and will desert the Democratic party in droves. People don’t want to be used as PAWNS in your political power struggle.?

    • That’s Trump’s real risk. Democrats have no power, anywhere, but the Republican Party would be much happier having a President Pence, who is a predictable, knee-jerk conservative, rather than the loose cannon they have in Trump.

      • Supposedly the Democrats don’t have any power. But they do. Hun? Remember Rush said “Why vote for Republicans when Schummer was braging the dems got what they wanted in the budget bill.” So who has the power?

        The Democrats have the power of the press, right? Does that mean they have the power?

  4. It is beyond comprehension why any intelligent person will simply select a political party and pledge blind allegiance to it’s policies. How to vote, who can vote, and for whom to vote is an American privilege that is slowly being vilified.

    Presently, under Trump, the Republican Party has America under siege. Along the Texas/Mexico border illegal immigrant are being held in small cages. This is inhumane treatment. ICE is following Republican policies and Trump’s orders. Calls to mind that this is how Hitler caged the Jewish people.

    Trump,etc insists he will still build a wall to separate Mexico and the United States. Trump likes to build walls. Of course, American taxpayers will pay for his folly this time. Remember he built a wall in Scotland to prevent ordinary citizens from viewing his elite golf course. Scotland doesn’t like him either.

    Whether or not Trump will be impeached lies primarily with Ryan and McConnell. Both men are moral deserters so impeachment proceedings are slim to almost nothing. That is, as long as Trump will sign their bills to give huge tax cuts for the rich, deregulate, and repeal and replace Obamacare.

    • Your first point is a topic that has concerned me for some time. I do not believe that most people “select” a political party. Most of us just carry on the beliefs of our parents–and affiliations, such as religion, sports teams, and political party.

      And it annoys me when pompous people brag that they “vote for the person, not the party.” Trouble is, when you elect the person, you’re electing the party. They work with party staff. They vote with the party. They seek party approval. So even if you vote for a “nice guy” of the other party, you’re still electing the other party.

      The parties have, pretty much choose one side or the other of every almost every issue. That used to stop at the sea shore, but since Vietnam, even foreign policy has become political.

      • Goethe…are you saying that it is your belief that adults unquestionably accept the beliefs of their parents–and all their affiliations, political and religion included. That would mean the end of free minds and bodies. Has America actually reached that point?

        It appears you are calling me a pompous person. I believe that is your right to free speech. However, I strongly disagree with your thoughts on “elect the person, you’re electing the party”. Many of the Republican Party and those in Congress actually find Trump “deplorable”. They praise him out of fear of what he will tweet about them. A Trump tweet and a reputation can be destroyed.

        • No, I’m not saying “adults unquestionably accept.” I’m saying MOST adults “unquestioningly” accept. They just don’t question it.

          It’s a matter of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” If there’s no catalyst, most people won’t change from the family way. And its not just families. The South mostly has one, shared mentality. The Northeast and West coasts have the opposite. It’s not easy to go against your friends and relatives, unless something happens to change your mind. I do have a brother who turned away from the family politics, largely just to “be different,” but also because his situation changed, and the other party was more advantageous for his new lifestyle.

          I wish it were true that there was a range of beliefs in both parties. When I was younger, you could find Barry Goldwater and Nelson Rockefeller under one tent, and Robert Kennedy and Strom Thurmond under the other. Now even the most conservative Democrat is more liberal than most Republicans, and the most “progressive” Republican is more conservative than most Democrats.

          Trump is an anomaly. He never has been a “Republican.” He’s a “Trumpist” who took over a major party, and many in that party resent it.

      • It is apparent that you are not familiar with US Immigration Laws. Unlike the U.S. criminal justice system immigration law does not provide a court-appointed lawyer for detainees. Ironically, those facing criminal charges in federal court do get free legal defense.

        ICE outsources to CCA, this for-profit corporation is not subject to federal public records law, making it difficult to know what happens to detainees who enter centers through ICE’s tangled bureaucracy.

        Immigrants awaiting deportation in detention centers in the South are routinely denied due process and frequently endure inhumane conditions, the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a report issued Tuesday.

        Glenn Beck on Monday said that a confidential source recently told him disturbing new details about the conditions at a border facility in McAllen, Texas. Beck said the facility is holding three times as many people as it was designed to, and progressive Republicans and Democrats are “trying to keep the lid” on the humanitarian crisis, which he believes they created. Glenn Beck on Monday said that a confidential source recently told him disturbing new details about the conditions at a border facility in McAllen, Texas. Beck explained “I am told by people who have toured and work at this facility that when they open the doors or walk by the outdoor cages, the stench is so bad that the politicians that were to go in gagged and backed out. Things are so desperate right now, hygiene and food are the number one problem. Clothes are further down the list. … They need portable showers and [port-o-potties]. They have no way to wash their clothes. They need food and hygiene care right now. Many of them have not eaten in days. Why in our wildest dreams would we try to help people in other countries by becoming lawless ourselves?” Beck asked.

        I am not a big fan of Glenn Beck but it took a brave heart to so openly speak on this state of government horrors.

        • I can only take your word that conditions are bad. However I don’t believe what Beck said. I don’t trust him at all.

          Seems he does everything for political/personal gain. There’s got to be something in it for Beck to make such a claim.

          Sure big businesses or the government would take advantage if they could. But I think there are too many watchdogs for them to get away with inhumane conditions.

          • Which watchdogs do you have in mind? Have you ever traveled the Texas/Mexico border? It is a great eye and mind opener.

      • It is apparent that you are not familiar with US Immigration Laws. Unlike the U.S. criminal justice system immigration law does not provide a court-appointed lawyer for detainees. Ironically, those facing criminal charges in federal court do get free legal defense.

        ICE outsources to CCA, this for-profit corporation is not subject to federal public records law, making it difficult to know what happens to detainees who enter centers through ICE’s tangled bureaucracy.

        Immigrants awaiting deportation in detention centers in the South are routinely denied due process and frequently endure inhumane conditions, the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a report issued Tuesday.

        Glenn Beck on Monday said that a confidential source recently told him disturbing new details about the conditions at a border facility in McAllen, Texas. Beck said the facility is holding three times as many people as it was designed to, and progressive Republicans and Democrats are “trying to keep the lid” on the humanitarian crisis. Glenn Beck said that a confidential source recently told him disturbing new details about the conditions at a border facility in McAllen, Texas. Beck explained “I am told by people who have toured and work at this facility that when they open the doors or walk by the outdoor cages, the stench is so bad that the politicians that were to go in gagged and backed out. Things are so desperate right now, hygiene and food are the number one problem. Clothes are further down the list. … They need portable showers and [port-o-potties]. They have no way to wash their clothes. They need food and hygiene care right now. Many of them have not eaten in days. Why in our wildest dreams would we try to help people in other countries by becoming lawless ourselves?” Beck asked.

        I am not a big fan of Glenn Beck but it took a brave heart to so openly speak on this state of government horrors.

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