The one and only Vice Presidential debate between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan will happen tonight from Centre College in Danville, Kentucky. The air time and broadcast channels will be identical to that of the first Presidential Debate and we will carry the live VP debate stream right here on this page beginning around 8pm et. The VP debate will be 90 minutes in length.
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VP Debate Air Time: Thursday, October 11, 2012 at 9pm et / 8pm ct / 7pm mt / 6pm pt
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Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)
The debate will cover both foreign and domestic topics and be divided into nine time segments of approximately 10 minutes each. The moderator will ask an opening question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a discussion of the question.
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Responding to Alex Plains–seeing as this is probably fact; what you stated about President Obama's inter-connections & being 'hooked' up with Raddatz moderating the VP debate, finish the statement. Talk about who Romney has in his pocket as well. The only difference here is Romney is a Governor and Obama is the President…it's politics; business as usual–right. And thank you for your source.
Romney is good at some things. He did make a lot of money for himself. He was very good at that. He has done an excellent job of shielding it from taxation by stashing it in the Cayman Islands and Swiss bank accounts. He did a fine job of strip-mining companies while at Bain. He did a great job of avoiding service in Vietnam by running away to France.
Romney has done an excellent job of lying shamelessly about President Obama's record (gutted work requirements in welfare, doubled the deficit, spent $90 billion on wind and solar, "You didn't build that", Obama doesn't understand America, Obama has an entitlement mentality etc). I guess those last two examples were more schoolyard smears.
Romney didn't do so well with the Olympics. Needed a federal bailout. Romney wasn't invited back for a second term as Governor of MA. He was 47th in job creation in MA. He won't come close to winning his home state this year.
Romney should go back to Wall Street. He was good at that. He wouldn't be a good president (Nixon fans will disagree).
Can you say "President Romney"
Show some proof bud or Obama's record is everything you just said.
John:
Proof? OK. Here's why I don't think Romney should be allowed to call himself a "businessman," since he was a parasite that destroyed business, or as Steve put it, "strip-mining companies:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENd0x4bqqVI
How about Romney's "black hole" finances, including Cayman accounts, Equity Swaps, AIVs, and Other Tax-Dodging Tricks;
his Endless ‘Retirement' Package, Short Sales, Other Exotic Financial Instruments can be found here:
http://gawker.com/5936394
And his "buried treasure" in the Caymans, harrr:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts
That article also touches on his ethics.
Oh, and the "gutting welfare work requirements" is gut-wrenchingly false:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/does-obamas-plan-gut-welfare-reform/
Regarding deficits, here's a good explanation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/05/the-three-best-charts-on-how-clintons-surpluses-became-bush-and-obamas-deficits/
As you'll note, the largest contributor to the deficit has been the "Bush tax cuts," followed by two wars that went directly onto the credit card, and of course, we went into Depression, so instead of sitting, like Hoover, Obama put the brakes on the freefall.
As for the money put into new energy, Romney said "half" of the businesses went under, whereas the TRUTH is that only THREE out of THREE DOZEN went bankrupt. And they were due to (surprise) Chinese dumping of cheap cells.
Regarding "you didn't build that," the entire Republican convention was a lie, since the only mistake Obama made was in repeating the phrase, "if you've got a business," which allowed you to twist the meaning. Here it is without that one phrase:
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. You didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
http://factcheck.org/2012/07/you-didnt-build-that-uncut-and-unedited/
There's a lot more, but you stopped reading way ahead of this.
I didn't, I read every word. I don't argue fact, I look it up.
really? we're going with guilty until innocent? the accuser is supposed to dig up the evidence, b/c it kinda hard to defend yourself against something you didn't do!
You're a fat, gay walrus with a purple horn, and until you prove otherwise, you are.
Well tell that to the 90+ witches that were executed in this country after have been given a fair trial. And it all started in Romney's home state.
Last comment going home to family that we all cherish. PLEASE ANYBODY WHO READS THIS PLEASE LOOK UP THE 2013 TAX RATES AND TAX INCENTIVES. I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO FAX THEM TO YOU. They do nothing for you Steve. FACTS DO NOT LIE.
I was one of the first people to comment and I feel so defeated to read all of the comments after me. Please research before you vote.You all seem so smart -well most -.just please use your brain and look into all the things that you heard tonight
Yes I am for Obama care, and what!!!!!!!!!! You don't like it, get a life. Keep your comments, I do not care!
Funny Romney has a history of business and people heard his name…. Obama was NEVER known until 2007. Senator only 2 years prior. Google Romney then Obama prior to 2007…….If you can
Kirk:
Romney was never actually IN business.
He's only been a speculator and one-man business "death panel." And in nearly all cases, and increasingly, all he did is DESTROY businesses (as well as families, and dreams).
I have had my own business since 1989. I know business. Business has been a friend of mine. Governor, you're no businessman.
one last thing- I'm 59 years old and have been listening to debates for at least 30 years and I have NEVER seen a more unprofessional commentator
Agree.
Biden seemed to nail it. Especially on the topic of the Afgan War. Ryan seemed confused and not in touch with the reality on the ground. Biden's military experience was decisive. I oppose all war, and the suggestion by Ryan that we might continue the war after 2014 is wrong. This is America's longest war. End it. Definitely.
On Economics, Biden said what Obama didn't in the last debate.
On abortion, Biden's position is more reasonable. I am against abortion personally, but the government should not make those decisions for women in crisis.
Peace to All
Drane: Biden did miss an opportunity there. The topic was on how your Catholic faith informs your attitude toward abortion. Biden hinted at it, but should have come right out and said, (a) like John Kennedy, I do not take orders from the Vatican on America's issues, AND (b) I believe that the First Amendment forbids me from forcing my church's beliefs on others.
confused,I think not,if you listened carefully through Biden's interuptions Ryan said that we should be out of Afganastan by 2014 but not advertise it to Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. And as for abortion as long as she got herself into the situation she has no cause for murder "a person is a person no matter how small".
I think Biden says it very clear and Ryan was schooled across the board. It is insane to me that a guy that won't make it as an assistant teacher in a public university is such a big shot in politics. He is confused, but mediocre people are very often confused.
American troops get out, Afghan troops get in. We train them. They follow their interest which is our interest, this is why we train them.
The date is set "until x", not "at x". So there is no "advertising" of any kind. This information is not harmful at all if you think about it. If you say "until March next year I will read some books" it will not give too many information to anybody. It doesn't really say what books you plan to read, where are these books, when will you read them, in what order…etc.
Compare this with the aberrant situation where no time frame is provided and troops are brought home without anybody knowing it. How will this be helpful for our troops? How this situation will be better? It lacks transparency, accountability…etc.
Ryan is just a mediocre guy. It is no surprise maybe that it is pushed forward as Republicans, as you probably notice, lack front runners. Romney is just a left over, not a choice.
Whatever…………..
Our own VP disrespectful towards his own friends! Very Rude!
Well Joe succeeded in one thing he made it hard to keep listening to Paul Ryan's answers and message. Now everyone is talking about Biden's laughing instead of some key issues and differences between the two.
I was totally disgusted when they were talking about War, people dying, and the nuclear threat and Joe had to sit there laughing. Is that what Biden and Obama think about the American people. We are people to be laugh at?
No wonder the democratic can't work with the republicans and come to some agreement. You laugh, be little and talk over your opponents instead of listening and understand both side.
Ryan did great, he appeared the maturer and wiser of the two.
Obama is an "abomination" to all republicans. I doubt even 0.01% will vote for him.
With Ron Paul out of the Republican picture (by what most Republican Voters are UNAWARE was a Fascist-like brow-beating of duly elected Ron Paul delegates, and their subsequent removal by nefarious means at the DIRECTION of Mitt Rmoney) the majority of registered republicans will vote Republican.
It is our job to educate them that Rmoney is NOT a True Republican, but a puppet of the Banking Cartels!
Ron Paul was a Libertarian before he became republican — so now the torch has been passed to another Libertarian: GARY JOHNSON!
All Independents, Democrats and Republicans MUST take a look at what Gary Johnson stands for!
Vote for Gary Johnson — or submit to Dictatorship (there are no other options)!
I'm really digging the double standard at work in the comments here. Just a week ago Mitt Romney was being praised for his aggression and control of the debate floor, and now when Joe Biden does the same thing it's "rude". Disgraceful.
Biden did not do the same thing, he interupted rudely,grinned,and laughed at almost everything Ryan said, this could have been prevented by having a good moderator
I agree!!
I agree too!!
I did the same but for both.
This presidential race is about the lesser of two evils. Mr. Obama has not done anything to really help the middle class and Mr. Romney has not stated what he will do! Can I have another candidate? I need someone with conviction, substance, and the moral fiber to build a team on capitol hill that will unify the country and bring prosperity to all.
Healthcare reform was necessary.
Providing me a voucher for healthcare is unacceptable.
More taxes is unacceptable.
Creating jobs is a must.
Lets stop and do this over with a new cast of characters.
Neither of these Politicians will do a DAMN THING to reign in the DEBT. One Party is for Entitlements – the other is for War. They BOTH will continue to BORROW and SPEND.
It doesn't matter who wins. Whichever Ticket wins this Election will PRESIDE over the Collapse of the US Economy!
DT: The difference is that Romney is the only one promising a LOT of additional spending, such as additional safety net AND massive military spending, including weapons they do NOT want. Oh, and lots of additional tax cuts, too.
Romney is used to Bain logic, in which he profits no matter what happened to the companies he destroyed. Now he wants to treat the nation the same way.
I'm pretty sure that you are talking about Obama, right? If you are gonna point the finger at Romney for things he never did then what did Obama ever do to help the U.S. economy and everything else having to do with the U.S.
John: No, look at the debate. He talked about how he was going to add all these NEW spending programs to help the poor and old people. He sounded like FDR. Then, of course, he keeps talking about throwing more trillions down the military-industrial rathole. OH, and he wants to cut taxes again, on top of it. Every time you hear a speech, Romney's offering someone else a handout.
It was very inarropriate how Vice President Biden would interupt and laugh off nearly all of Ryan's coments,the moderator should have cracked down on this.
I agree! She was terrible!!
Grading the "theatrical" Vice Presidential Reality Show sure makes people look really really stupid. Anyone who would listen – let alone FOLLOW these clowns – must suffer from a serious case of Daddy Complex.
Who does It make look really stupid?
John
To give either one of these PSYCHOPATHS any kind of credibility is pretty clear evidence that those who follow either of them are really really stupid people – especially when you consider that these PSYCHOPATHIC Democrats and Republicans are "working together" to destroy America with DEBT and WAR, while at the same time taking away our Freedoms and Liberties here at home – so we can't fight back.
It's like it or lump it, John. Do you really believe that the course we're on is going to change with either one of these Tickets in the White House? I say NO way! Do you think the Debt and Deficit will stop increasing? Not a Chance! Do you really think the DEBT Ceiling will ever get a Ceiling? I don't think so. It's all "Theater", John – and THEY know that the American people are TOO STUPID to figure it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57RPtTZYIsg
Yeah, I'll drink to that.
Bllly: Better hurry. Jacque says the bar's closing.
LOL, I'm in Chicago right now and the time stated on their license means nothing in this corrupt city.
Billy:
Well, if you have a LICENSE to do something. . .
liquor license. (different times for closing)
Billy: I thought you meant they had a license to be corrupt. . .
I don't think they need one for that in Chicago. Just read about a bit of corruption with the speed trap cameras.. Chicago has taken from its citizens over 600 million with the red light cameras. Well I don't know if they all paid but Chicago is number one in the world for the amount of tickets issued.
Billy
When people choose either a Democrat (Obama/Biden) or a Republican (Romney/Ryan) to "follow", the only conclusion one can come to about these people is that their STUPIDITY is the unwitting tendency to self-destruct.
People should start thinking for themselves, instead of listening to all the crap on the TV and on the radio. It's all "Theater". BOTH Candidates for President are the SAME and they will do the SAME things as President/VP. There is NO difference between either of them – just the Marketing Strategy it different.
http://news357.com/cache/e9/e95bc24f44d84b0cfab9713edc2c07a0.png
No problem with that statement.
" And we should
not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we
got to let them go."
Look at it this way…
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mam385u9BO1qcvjbho1_500.jpg
They are DEATHLY AFRAID that the American people are going to figure it out someday. That's the REAL reason why the Dems and Repubs "joined together" and passed the NDAA and H.R. Bill 347 (also known as the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011).
They're keeping us from FIGHTING BACK against their Tyranny.
Hey I was in Tampa during the RNC and for me it was fear, big time. They can do it, one city at a time, no problem.
DT: Billy was agreeing with you. Just wanted to make sure that was clear.
I want people to think for themselves. But I don't want them to think they can think for other people.
Gothe I know he was agreeing with me. I'm just sickened by the Romneyites and Obamatons touting their meaninless differences, wnen they are EXACTLY the SAME on everything that matters.
People do drink for different reasons………..
DT: Bullshit. What you're actually doing is copping out of the situation altogether. It's easy to sit back, cross your arms, and declare: "They're both awful, so I'll support neither", but the fact of the matter is that one of these two men is going to get elected whether you like it or not. In a perfect world we'd all be able to honestly support the candidate we felt best reflected our views, and the best candidate would win. That is not the world we live in; sometimes we don't like the leaders we get saddled with.
I'm a Democrat, and I admit that President Obama has many positions which I do not personally agree with. I am particularly upset about how he has chosen to handle the issue of Super PACS and his silence on the subject of campaign finance reform. I'm still voting for him in November. Know why? Because even a cursory look at the facts behind these two candidates will show a very real discrepancy in policy. They are not, as you assert, carbon copies of one another. A quick look at Romney's history at Bain Capital, compared to President Obama's time teaching at the University of Chicago Law School will show that.
Sometimes we have to make choices we don't like. Sometimes we have to choose the lesser of two evils.
Right now the lesser of two evils is President Barack Obama.
You are right but it will be with no help from me. My Daddy always told me there are a lot more horses' rear ends than there are horses.
sansDaedalus
If you want to be counted amongst the "Sheeple", that's up to you. And so you know the I'm not sitting back – nor crossing my arms – taking the "easy" way out. The "easy" way is to "settle" for what you say is the "lesser of 2 evils". By that statement alone, you KNOW that both of these candidates will not be good nor right for America. They're both the SAME! When you go to vote, you may as well close your eyes and drop the point of your pencil onto the ballot – and color in the circle closest to the point.
I chuckle as you bring up Mitt Romney and Bain Capital – and then compare that to Barack Obama teaching at the University of Chicago Law School to show their "differences". LOL. Is that how you "measure" the candidates? Based on those differences???
What about the Unconstitutional "Fascist" Bailouts? They BOTH supported them. You, like Romney and Obama, obviously don't believe in Free Markets or Capitalism. You're like Rush Limbaugh "saying" we need to support candidates who abide by the Constitution – yet when the Constitution is violated – it's all good. After all, we needed to save the Banks. LOL. Never mind about the Bankruptcy Laws which would have cleared the DEBT which these Banks incurred – which are now saddled on-the-backs of the American people.
It's "Dolts" like you who haven't a CLUE on where we're headed. You go ahead and vote for your "lesser of 2 evils". When the SHTF, let me know how that all worked for you.
Take the "Crash Course" in Economics and then tell me if you think either of these CLOWNS should get your vote. They certainly won't get mine!
http://www.peakprosperity.com/crashcourse
Nor mine either.
I'm sorry but your application to the "Soderquist Paradox" is a pretty paper-thin justification for that kind of political position.
Sans:
That may be true, but the same applies for their extremities.
Horses have forelegs and they have two hind legs,
and it makes one wonder how they run with six legs.
I never noticed but I'll count them next time I see one. fore & two do make six, I just asked my GF.
In all honesty Ryan made everybody laugh, it's one of the clown functions. When you have such a mediocre guy running for vp something is off. All his answers were scripted and stupid to the core. He was like a boy without the homework done speaking about things he has no idea. I am wondering when Republicans will be ready with some decent candidates. It looks to me that this school of thought become to produce only sub-humans. This year was the Circus in town. You have the leftover romney and this guy ryan, the convention with some senile people…etc. You had mccaine and pallin before that. and before that you had bush… wow… How disappointing, isn't it? Why are you such a very sore losers? When the team is romney-ryan, mccaine-palling what would you expect?
Just not everyone saw it that way. Not to say that many did or didn't.
In the news:
The father of Christopher Stephens, the United States ambassador who was killed in the attack in Libya last month, said Saturday that it would be "abhorrent" for his son's death to be politicized in the presidential campaign.
In an interview with Bloomberg News, Jan Stevens said the attack on Benghazi and the ensuing investigation has no place in the upcoming election.
"The security matters are being adequately investigated," Stevens, who is getting briefings from the State Department on the investigation, said. "We don’t pretend to be experts in security. It has to be objectively examined. That’s where it belongs. It does not belong in the campaign arena."
So where does it belong? The buck has to stop somewhere. Blame the meter maid.
Billy:
The dad is being briefed on the situation, and therefore, knows more than the rest of us. And for someone who really DOES have a direct stake to say that we should shut up about it, that's good enough for me.
Not for me as I remember that Iranian hostage deal that they were all told to shut up about.
In the veep debate, I thought it was interesting that Ryan gave an answer that was the exact OPPOSITE of the one given by JFK.
John F. Kennedy said that the Vatican would NOT dictate his actions as president.
Ryan said, "I don’t see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith.
How is that with a Democratic Senate, with a almost equal party line amount in the House, that the President can only blame the previous administration for his lack of accomplishment? If I had his job I would have been fired for nonperformance, and I worked for the Federal Government for 20 years!
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING:
Voting for either Barack or Mitt would be legitimizing further the corruption that seems to have no end in the aim to destroy Americans' Freedoms and Prosperity!
If Barack or Mitt win — Free America ENDS in 2012!
VOTE for Garry Johnson — or face the dire consequences of failing to do so — TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA!
(Would love to write-in Dr. Ron Paul — but ALL indications are that such write-in votes for Ron Paul will be screened and then thrown out — that's how much the Establishment fears the Good Doctor!)
fired for nonperformance ? ? ? Now that doesn't happen very often but the government is riddled with non performers.
Have the American People been reduced again to vote for the “lesser of two evils” — are there no other options?
My conscience cannot allow me to vote for the “lesser of two evils”, because, that means that an Evil will still get elected!
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1) The Barack is the evil we know — a Socialist minded professional politician that will have most of its venomous teeth pulled out when republicans win more seats this election. Thus, it will lack the ability to do much more damage than it’s done already. If the Barack is “elected” it will end its last term in a whimper.
2) The Mitt — the evil we don’t know…yet. But all indicators are that it is supported by the Central Banks. And that it supports Israel unquestionably to the detriment of our own national security (will start more unconstitutional wars to protect Israel, not the USA).
Should the Mitt win, we may be in bigger trouble — since it assured itself of no competition for the next republican nomination (see the false vote it made the GOP do on its behalf — THE TELEPROMPTER "KNEW" IN ADVANCE HOW THE VOTE WILL GO…SHAME, SHAME SHAME on the Mitt creature):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=77W5OKStO5s
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So, unless we vote for Gary Johnson — who wants to restore Liberty and Prosperity, what would you get instead:
Final four years of ‘toothless’ BO — or 8 more years of the Mitt (with the possibility it has groomed its spawn — 5 Mormon Sons — to keep the dynasty going) for many decades to come…?!
Would ask all that find merit in the below to SPREAD IT! Thanks.
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VOTE for Gary Johnson (do not write-in Ron Paul, please)!
Here is why:
The Establishment fears Ron Paul so much that they will do anything to stop him and his (our) movement for Liberty on the election level (since so far they have not been able to control the internet, and thus shut us down completely)!
The Major Networks will show after the election NOTHING for Ron Paul (not even that he got ANY of the Vote, for that would be admitting that some actually dared to write-in his name).
The Apparatchiks have been instructed to shred all write-in ballots where Ron Paul’s name appears (for proof just watch after the election and see if Ron Paul is even mentioned, let alone how many votes he got)!
Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 States — so a vote for him is a vote COUNTED against the wannabe despots of America! (Plus, if he breaks the 5+% level, the Libertarian Party (Ron Paul’s original party) will be eligible for federal funds to the tune of about 90 million dollars for the next election — and no longer will be a financial shoe-string operation!!!).
VOTE GARY JOHNSON (or write-in Ron Paul if you must) — as long as you vote for what you realize is BEST for our Nation, and NOT get bamboozled into voting again for the “lesser of two evils”: the Kenyan Barack or Mitt the Mormon (this path only leads to more and bigger evil, for the next election cycle…should there be one)!!!