Both major parties are holding a primary in Arizona and a caucus in Utah today. In addition, Democrats in Idaho will also be holding a caucus. Arizona is the top prize of the day, especially on the Republican side, where there are 58 delegates up for grabs which are winner-take-all. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are the current polling leaders in Arizona, while Ted Cruz is poised for a win in Utah. Bernie Sanders may pull off a victory in Utah and Idaho, where polls in both states find him with a slight edge.

Called Races

Cruz: UT
Trump: AZ

Sanders: ID, UT
Clinton: AZ


Arizona Primary
All polls closed by 9pm ET (7pm MT)
Live Results: Politico
GOP Delegates: 58 winner-take-all
Dem Delegates: 85 proportional
Winner: Trump, Clinton


Idaho Democratic Caucus
Caucus runs from 7pm to 8pm MT (results between 10 and 11pm ET)
Live Results: Politico
Dem Delegates: 27 proportional
Winner: Sanders


Utah Caucuses
Dem Caucus Time: 6pm to 8:30pm MT
GOP Caucus Time: 7pm to 9pm MT
Live Results: Politico
GOP Delegates: 40 proportional (unless the winner gets 50% of vote, then WTA)
Dem Delegates: 37 proportional
Winner: Cruz, Sanders


This page will be updated when the results start to come in later in the evening. Since these are all western states, we probably won’t see any results until after 9pm ET.

126 COMMENTS

  1. Let’s think, Bill is a disgrace, Voting for Kasich is like throwing your vote away, Cruz only has three years experience in politics; not even a Bachelor’s Degree in Life, Clinton will sell America piece by piece to the highest bidder while getting Bill into the U.N., and Bernie, I love a socialist only it just will not happen, although we do need to move to the middle. The only Sane Choice for America is the one guy the 1% have to get and that’s Trump, if the 1% are trying to destroy Trump then he must be for the 99% and that’s you and me… Don’t Be A Chump, Vote for Trump!

    • How could you trust someone that has lied all his life, has ideas that would wreck the economy and screw over the middle class even more. How the hell could you possibly get 11 million people out of the country and why would you build a wall at the southern border when more mexicans are getting out of then in to the US. Have you even seen his tax plan? You can´t make tax cuts to all people, it will make the debt that is right now look small. He also wants the health insurance companies to be able to deny insurance if they have a disease before they buy the insurance. Do you really think these ideas are plausible and if you do, please tell me why!

      • LMAO! Yeah ‘those in Government’ right now don’t lie! They have never lied while in office! Shoot! The REAL Easter Bunny is comming to YOUR house this Sunday Marcus!

        The 11 Mill.? Well, if we DON’T just let them go when we catch them crossing the board…that would be a start! …and the ones that are arrested for robbery, driving on an invalid license, working without a legit SSN, etc that are caught…If we do’t just slap them on the wrist and let them go….maybe deport them??? How much do you think it is costing the average working person to pay for their medical, food, housing , A/C, cable TV, children, health insurance, etc?? I’m guessing close to, if not over, the 11Mil.

        What does the other candidate’s tax plans look like? For some reason, I don’t see squat on their campaign website!…whatsup with that?

        • What about Bernie Sanders, he has released his tax plan. I never said that people in government never lies, they lie all the time and not all the 11 million illigal immigrants are depending on other people for their food, medical bills etc. I have no problem with kicking out the immigrants that are criminals, but that doesn´t mean that every immigrant should be kicked out of the country.

          • Trumps tax plan is outstanding for middle class and he is the ONLY one who has walked the walk. Leadership requires certain aptitudes and skills. There is only one among the whole group who has them and who will not sell us out. Look at what those who have worked for Trump say. I have talked to so many as I spend time in both NY and FLA and they are black, white, women, men, hispanic, muslim. All love working for him and believe in him and are voting for him. He is the real deal. Sorry the media fools so many people. Its our only chance. If he does not get in it will be HRC and we will be disarmed and harmed.

            • So is someone who works for him going to say they can’t stand the man? Get a grip. I doubt very much if all love him and are voting for him. There are some hotel workers of his in Las Vegas who have even held demonstrations against his treatment of employees.

            • Proof of the demonstrations? It was on CNN, MSNBC and ABC. People were out in front of the hotel with signs, demonstrating against working conditions. What more proof do you want?

            • Don’t Believe it, they were paid anarchist, just like chicago, and arizona. cnn, msnbc, and abc are the biggest instigators of anti-american propaganda.

            • What plan are YOU looking at? The one that was examined by the pros say his tax cuts for the rich will cause the middle class to pay up to $2000 MORE per family. He sure has you fooled! I guess most racists will love him though…….so you are not being truthful about who worked for him unless they got paid BIG TIME and he won’t even turn over the money to the veterans that he’s collected, He’s a lying sack of sh*T.

            • It is clear he is talking about illegal immigrants if he is referring to the 11 million. Bone up on your reading comprehension.

        • Most of the 11 million have been here for years, many all their lives. Their kids have served in the military. They are living lives as Americans and most are paying taxes through their paychecks. They deserve a path to citizenship that doesn’t cost a mint or take years to get it. So what if others are here legally – laws change all the time that lift regulations that are not fair. Rounding them up to spend millions on deportation and separating families does not seem the American way.

          • Oh good grief Patcee! Do you truly believe that most of the illegal immigrants are paying taxes, have children who have served in the military etc? Are you kidding? lol! Have you not heard of “anchor babies”? That would make these people legal immigrants. No one is talking about those who have been here for 50 years, who had babies here. Turn on your television, watch what is going on in Germany, Belgium, France etc..with these “poor immigrants”. The ones who are strong, virile, young, capable and believe in raping women who are not of the Muslim faith. Get on the BBC and listen to what they have to say about what is happening over there. It is grueling for the citizens there. It is insane to bring them to our country and it is insane to allow those who are like them to stay in our country.

            • Do you truly believe most of them AREN’T? Kinda acting the same way as the person you’re berating, don’t you think?

            • Well, my wife was property manager for an apartment complex and many of those families were illegal, paying into the tax system, can’t get their social security, although they did pay in – their kids are in the military and one that had served for 8 years got out of the service (honorably) and they sent him back to Mexico….pretty lousy if you ask me. Served this country in IRAQ – was wounded, and then kicked out when he left the service? Yeah, we are such a great country….NOT!

            • So lemme get this straight….By your logic, if I served in the military, paid taxes was a volunteer for children’s charities etc etc etc BUT I had accidentally run over your mom walking through a crosswalk and fled the scene and hadn’t been caught then if I turn myself in they should just forgive me for that crime because of all the other good things I did? Can’t have it both ways. A crime is a crime.

            • The truth is very far from what you actually believe. I don’t know if “most illegals” pay taxes, but, I know that those who have Social Security #’s -even if they are not valid for work- get taxes taken aways from their paychecks. They don’t file 1040 form to claim dependent or get money back from the 1040 refund form. So they actually paid more taxes than many Americans who are cheating the IRS or have been doing it for years. Tax evasion is a huge problem in America. It’s estimated that Tax Evasion is more than over $600 Billion dollars annually. Social program like food stamps and insurance for minors are in the order of 80 billion dollars annually. If you really believe adult illegals receive any type of health coverage you have no clue about social services. You have to have a legal SS# to get medicaid or medicare. Yes, poverty is a rampant problem for the our economy, but this is a distraction from the biggest problem. The ability for balancing the budget and paying off the debt has been gravely diminished by tax evasion, tax fraud and by the socialize welfare system many corporation have enjoyed for years. Why if we know that companies like GE paid $0 in taxes for a couple of years you are so mad for what poverty and illegal immigration cost? The tax evasion amount is 10 time bigger than social program for poor and immigrants. This is a little taste of this:
              http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/09/15-Fortune-500-Companies-Paid-No-Federal-Income-Taxes-2014

            • Sorry you haven’t been around much. You must get your information from Fox News and the ravings of Madman Trump. I have little hope for you. You refuse to look at any subject from other angles and like living in that narrow little place you call your mind. There are lots of things you haven’t learned about in this world. You should start broadening your search. I know you won’t, but your life would be so much better if you let just a little more light into that dark morass.

            • You are a mean person with no compassion for the human condition. If you were in their shoes you might have made the same choice to make life better for your family, but your lack of empathy can’t imagine that. The majority of those who are undocumented don’t have the money, knowledge or time to get in line for the exhausting effort to come here legally. They leave a life of nothing to come here, hoping for a job and a way to raise their kids in better living conditions. There is no way to deport 11 million people without spending millions to do it and disrupting families. The better plan is to find a path to citizenship so they can stay.

            • Wanna bet there isn’t a way to deport 11 million? Obama has deported nearly 3 million during his tenure and HE’S TRYING NOT TO! So don’t tell me if we actually TRIED we couldn’t deport 11 million. And if it’s SO bad there why don’t they all band together and overthrow their government like we did back when we were a colony of England? You’re right… I have NO compassion for criminals entering our country illegally who are too cowardly to try and change their own country. I’m not a sucker like you.

            • I didn’t say we couldn’t deport them, I said we couldn’t without spending millions and separating families. Sure, the people are going to band together and fight their government with sticks. You evidently don’t realize what life is like in Mexico. There are the rich and the very poor. The very poor cluster around Mexico City in cardboard shacks, an ever-present symbol to tourists of how disconnected the people are from one another. Sit at an outdoor restaurant in La Rosa shopping district surrounded by small children watching every bite you eat and waiting to grab scraps. They spend their lives scrounging for ways to stay alive and care for their families. The government is corrupt, as are the police. People come here to escape that life and build a new one. I’m not saying it is the right thing for them to do – I’m saying that for some it is the ONLY thing to do.I have known undocumented families and they are not criminals. Most are hard working people that we need in our labor force. I am not a sucker – I just believe people should be treated as fellow human beings. We are here to take care of one another – and the good book says nothing about loving only those who come to a country legally.

      • How can you say that DJ Trump has lied all his life?? Do you have proof?
        Heck, we have the biggest liar in the White House. Oblamer was not born here, he went to Occidental College as an international student. ?? duh.
        He was a crappy pot smoking kid “all his life”

        • You ask for “proof” then you state things as fact and you offer no “proof”. I think that about sums it up.

          • Michael, the way it works is this. The burden of proof lies on the plaintiff/accuser not the defendant and until which time Marcus can show proof of anything that comes out of his mouth, there is no need for anyone defending Trump to provide anything.

            Being that Marcus is so sure of his disinformation, I’ll bet you any amount of money Marcus’ balls would be sucked up into his throat if he were to try and accuse Trump himself; but a lass, Marcus would never….. all he can do is spew his own self perception of Trump. That is what we call a personal problem.

          • Proof? Does this work: AP – WASHINGTON D.C. In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s
            qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of
            Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college
            transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript
            school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received
            financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate.
            The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a
            court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of
            California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for
            financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the
            Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the
            scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

            • This is all a damn lie. Google it or check it out on Snopes. Occidental has no record of a Barry Soetoro every attending, but has Barack Obama attending on financial aid – NOT as a foreign student. Occidental doesn’t even accept foreign students doing undergraduate work, only graduate students. Occidental has stated it has never released Obama’s transcript and no record of a court order can be found. The Americans for Freedom of Information, if it exists at all, should answer for the stupid lies it has spread.

          • Patcee, the statement that DTOM is delusional, is a good little Liberal statement. You probably tell people that they are “prejudice or bias” more often than I drink water.

            • It says “patcee14->Rsmary”, not “patcee14->DTOM-TheTruthIsNotIllegal”. If you’re going to insult someone, at least insult them for the right thing.

            • We deleted a bunch of comments for being too rude and without merit.

              Please comment about the candidates and their issues. You can disagree with another commentor, but you don’t have to be abusive.

        • Read these tiny words very closely: the group Americans for Freedom of Information does not exist, just like the supposed “AP article” you keep cutting and pasting into e-mails to your irritated friends does not exist, just like the “Daily Mail article” referenced in the fake “AP article” does not exist. They’re all fabrications. Fakes. Hoaxes. Ask yourself why you’re so eager to believe these obvious fakes. No, really. Really, really ask yourself.

          Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):

          Occidental has no record of a “Barry Soetoro” ever attending [Occidental], nor was there ever any such court order [requiring the school to turn over his transcripts], said Jim Tranquada, Occidental College’’s communications director, who personally answers the inquiries, demands and pleas of people looking for proof that the president is not who he claims to be.

          Tranquada said: “Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman ‘Lookbook’ [a guide distributed to incoming freshman] published at the beginning of President Obama’s first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama.”

          If Barack Obama were an Indonesian citizen, he couldn’t possibly have “received financial aid” or “been awarded a fellowship for foreign students” from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program while attending Occidental as an undergraduate. Fulbright scholarships for foreign students of Indonesian citizenship are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master’s or doctorate programs).

          The above is from Snopes. Obama was known as Barry for many years, a nickname he picked up in high school in Indonesia. He did not assume the name to attend Occidental as a foreign student.

      • Marcus… first off everyone does Lie.. ok you, me, everyone.. .but Trump as a candidate for President tells the Truth more than Lies.. He’s not a Politician that lies and bends the truth or evades the question like Ted Cruz, Hillary,Obama, and Kasich. He tells us what’s on his mind and what he believes in. Many don’t like him cause of his tone and ego so they use that to hate him for made up reasons. Now with the 11million.. he’s NOT going to go house to house to get them.. he’s talking about if you’re 1 of the 11 million here illegally and you commit a crime or get caught driving without a license or anything.. then you will be deported out. The wall is cause of the DRUGS entering the country mostly… also some has to do with illegals and sex trade scandels. People can come to the U.S. but LEGALLY! Also health insurance companies to be able to deny insurance if they have a disease before they buy the insurance”? Do you make this stuff up or you hear this from Hillary? Most of Trump supporters are tired of LIAR Politicians and them being controlled by lobbiests and donors and stuff.. we want someone that can get things done.. So we are giving Trump his chance.. .otherwise its 4 more years of BS

        • us news and world report just released an article that says Trump lies about 80% of the time he opens his mouth

            • Please stop calling entities that you don’t understand “liberal” the whole right left thing is an elitist construct to keep the lower classes at each others throat.
              Both Trump and Sanders are poised to blast the whole top 10% and their lackeys right out of the water. Including the so-called two party system.

              Sanders or Trump need us… We the People… The revolution has begun and won’t be put back into the bottle. If they face off it will be a win-win situation. If both conventions subvert the will of the people by having say Cruz and Clinton I hope Trump will approach Sanders as a ticket and then we will see.

              Unlike the porch monkey Obama and all his broken promises and compromises Trump and Sanders will lead the country and the Revolution for the next 16 years. It is our only hope. Not in the individuals but in our taking it to the streets to support them. The Banksters and 1%ers know this and hate them and us for it.

            • Is that the go-to excuse for everything? “…is just a liberal mouthpiece.”. There is no liberal media…ok? Please quit spreading that complete and utter tripe.

            • Ian you’re truly delusional if you really believe what you wrote -98% of the mdeia is leftist / libtard / politically correct and anyone who has done serious investiagtion of such knows that

            • Jesus, just listen to the man. If you know anything about government or foreign policy or anything at all, you can tell Trump lies every day. You don’t need to go by what some publication tells you unless you are 12 or a moron. And it’s not just his lies. The fact that he thinks one day we might have to use nuclear weapons or we need to get out of NATO and stop trading with his list of countries, shows he is a loon. He not only wants to build a wall against Mexico, he wants us to bring isolation into the picture. Listen to what he says, not just his gotcha statements. He knows nothing about how government works.

          • Hillary can’t even talk about her name, or her grandparents, without lying.
            She drags her own daughter down into the mud with her.

            Hillary lies to the Benghazi families, then implies that they’re the ones lying.

          • Don’t you know who is behind that? The Main Stream Media, The rioting Protestors, Cruz, Kasich, Irrelevant Romney and HRC — George Soros. The liars are getting their pockets paved to cut down Trump. Trump is for us. Those who want us disarmed and harmed are against Trump. They don’t want USA to be a republic any more and attack our constitution.

          • Oh my. Bernie has no chance. Its HRC or Trump. The GOP prefers HRC to Trump. Trump and Bernie are the only two who speak against the PACS and are really not taking pac or wall street money. Why? For Trump it is so he is his own man and works for the people. Bernie is a 30 year career politician. What has he done? Leaders bloom where they are planted. Leaders rise to the top. Bernie is not that man. Plus Bernie has mis quoted trump and blamed Trump for violent Soros supported rioters.

            • Does it mean nothing to you that the reason Bernie has such trouble getting his legislation passed is because Congress is full of establishment politicians who do not want things to change???? You can count Senators on one hand that would support most of Bernie’s ideas. That’s not because his ideas are faulty – it’s because the others want to keep the money flowing for their next election. I don’t know of any reps who are planning grassroots campaigns without SuperPACs.

            • Bernie actually got a lot done, he did a lot of amendments that added a lot of freedoms to many people. Also Trump is taking wall street money, he is spending very little out of pocket.

            • Bernie has done a lot to help veterans, also. If there is any candidate who really cares about veterans and their families, it is Bernie.

      • Marcus, my thoughts are this. We have no Republican candidates who have not lied all their lives. They are all on the payroll of someone. And the second runner Cruz, look at the underhanded things he did early in the election until he got called out on it. He only stopped because it was hurting him in the polls. They are all liars. Trump willingly admits he’s been on the other side of the fence, and now says he’s switching to our team. Maybe, maybe not. But none of the others have even admitted they have ever done anything bad for this country.

        I heard the same rumors that Mexicans are leaving the US, but it’s irrelevant. If there are 1 million, or 100,000, or 10,000 people who broke the law to get here, they need to go. And apply for citizenship and do it the right way. They are criminals simply for sneaking in here. Sure many or most of them are nice people, but so are many or most heroin addicts who are jailed each year. We don’t let them simply disobey our laws, and they are citizens. Shouldn’t we hold foreigners to the same standard, or even higher? We won’t round up 11,000,000 people. It’s impossible, but we need to round up as many as possible and send them back. I think sending them back is insanely LENIENT. An Indiana couple faced felony charges for sneaking into a theater! We can’t have a war on crime on Americans without having the same war on foreign nationals.

        And your last question. It’s simple economics, I’m not going to hit you with speculation, or voodoo economics, or trickle down or up. It’s trade reform. I’m 60, I’ve seen this for a fact. In the 60’s and part of the 70’s, before we made Nafta, and many other bad trade agreements , one minimum wage job modestly supported a small family. And anyone who wanted a job just went out and got it. If it took you a week, you weren’t very motivated. We have 92 million Americans who want to work and don’t have work. The unemployment numbers we are fed only count people who are drawing. Not people who gave up, or it ran out, or can only find a part time job that won’t support their family.

        If we put most of those 92 million people to work, optimistically, (because they won’t all get work) but it would be about a 40% increase in tax revenue. 20% would be more than enough to give everyone everything they want. (I’m talking about Dems social programs, Republican’s Walls around the US, School reform, ALL of it). And I’m saying this from experience, because I have seen it. And when Nafta came around most of us were yelling “But we will lose our jobs! People in Bangladesh don’t buy Escalades!)

        But alas we lost jobs, the first result was wages plummeted. Then when they got low enough that it was hard to get a living wage, the next low was that there weren’t even enough starvation wages to go around.

        The first two of your points I answered are my opinion based on how I feel, but the Tax base is fact that I have seen. Warned about it, watched it happen and watched the results unfold. Every politician available to us this except Trump and Bernie are partially or even in Clinton’s case MOSTLY responsible for what has happened to this country.

        Remember this:

        Don’t punish US citizens more severely than you do illegal aliens who snuck into this country.

        We won’t get 11,000,000 people out of here, but we need to stop the influx, and get as many as possible of the illegal ones out and make them get citizenship according to our laws. Any amount of them is better than none.

        And lastly, if we balance our trade with other countries, ( and the goal should be 0 negative trade numbers, everyone who wants to work in this country will be. And the wages will go back to a living wage like they were before the bad trade deals. And the government will have all the money for it’s pork barrell projects it wants without going in debt for our children and grandchildren to pay.

        Just my humble opinion

      • Obama has deported 2.9 million on his watch and has been doing everything he can NOT to deport so why couldn’t we do 11 million if we actually TRIED to deport?

      • Come live in Florida and see how you feel about an open southern border. So sick of you Yahoo’s that aren’t dealing with the influx of problems from illegal immigration telling us down here that it isn’t a problem. GFY.

    • “Cruz only has three years experience in politics”. And Trump has ZERO. You’ve just argued against yourself. If you think that voting for a crony capitalist who has, in the past, donated to Hillary Clinton, you’re free to do just that. Don’t blame me, though, when she wins the presidency because you just HAS to have your shiny toy.

    • The 1% hate Bernie a THOUSAND times more than trump.

      Maybe they hate trump because its going to be harder to do business when all the other countries in the world if they all think we are morons.

      The idea that Trump is “anti-establishment is laughable. He was BORN into the 1%. How much more 1% can you get?

    • You are clearly delusional.Trump is running because he does not want to pay his fair share of taxes..He will cut taxes for the wealthy and just laugh when our roads crack, our schools fall apart and our country’s credit rating becomes a joke. His plan is the same one that has nearly destroyed Kansas and Louisiana and will wipe out the rest of the country if Trump is elected.

      • If you want to hear the truth for a change instead of listening to what anti-Trump people say….go to his website….his policies are all laid out in black and white…

      • Projecting your own fears and delusions onto other people is to be expected. It happens when people are afraid unknowns, except in this case, Trump has already been very specific on numerous occasions of how he’s going to accomplish certain tasks, you just need to open your ears and listen instead of just hearing.

      • your country’s credit is a joke already = with unfunded liabllities and deficit you owe over 200 tilllion $ – which the globalist banksters know you cannot nor ever will repay which suits them fine as Proverbs says, “the borrower is servant to the lender” and thus you’re the bankers servants – they dictate economic and military policy just for starters

      • Trump will bring jobs back to america, he is not a globalist, he will build the damn wall, and deport illegals, you are delusional about Trump.

    • Yes, let’s think: Donald Trump’s proposed tax plan mainly benefits those who are rich, like him, and will lead the U.S .into a fiscal debt crisis. He proposes to build a wall between Mexico and the U.S. to keep out a nonexistent flood of illegal immigrants; a wall that will cost billions of dollars, and Mexico will NOT pay for, leaving you and me to shell out for the cost. He wants to spend more billions rounding up and shipping 11 million illegal Mexican immigrants back to Mexico, which will be paid for by U.S. taxpayers–that’s you and me. He wants to build a data base of Muslim Americans in the U.S., another cost to be paid for by U.S. taxpayers, and that’s you and me. He is a demagogue, a misogynist, a xenophobe and a racist. He is vulgar in his language, poorly informed, unrealistic and simplistic in his solutions to complex problems. Time and again he has lied and time and again he has denied overwhelming contrary evidence when confronted with those lies. That’s why PolitiFact gave him the 2015 liar of the year award. He doesn’t just lie; he fantasizes. Yes, let’s think, let’s be logical and vote for Trump.

    • So… you’re logic is that you can find something you don’t like about all the candidates, therefore Trump and all of his racist, xenophobic, insultingly stupid and inflammatory rhetoric is a good choice and the champion of the 99% in spite of his complete lack of political experience and absence of even basic knowledge of domestic or global issues…

      Bravo.

    • You’re an idiot and/or a liar. Cruz memorized the constitution at age 13. He has argued before the Supreme Court 9 times. That’s more than anyone else, ever. He has also written 70 briefs for others to use in defense of the constitution. He wrote S2195 which mandates the U.S to expel foreigners who take part in terror related activities even if they are diplomats. Closed a loophole. He also fought the Gang of 8 immigration bill. Although he did not get enough other Senators to vote against it, his fight gave members of the House the points to fight against the bill. It was eventually defeated.

    • Don’t forget to donate your brain to researchers when you die, so they can find ways to cure stupid!

    • Ok, we’re gonna work through this piece by piece. 1) Who is Bill? Clinton? Cause he is not running for president. Good try though. 2) You’re not throwing your vote away by voting for someone who probably won’t win. What you’re doing is adding your vote to the percentage of people who is saying that there’s no other candidate that suits them. You’re making a statement. 3) Cruz’s experience in politics has nothing to do with his policies or ability to do a job. Besides that he’s shown to be successful in his past so if agree with his policies then go for it. 4) “America” consists of two different continents of which we are one country. Again good try. 5) What I’m assuming you meant is that Clinton will sell the U.S. piece by piece. which she cannot do. I’m not sure how you think government works, but the president is actually very limited so unless she gets all of congress and the senate to agree to “sell America” then that’s not going to happen. Perhaps you are referring to her economic policies or foreign policies. In that case I strongly encourage you to review her actual policies and see that she has no intention to “sell America.” https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ 6) How would Clinton possibly get Bill (again I’m assuming Clinton) “into the U.N.? What does that mean. Again I don’t think you realize what the president actually does. Bill Clinton has his own career and if he “gets into the U.N.” then it will be a result of his own actions, just as if Hillary Clinton gets into the white house it will be her own doing not that of her husbands. 7) Why does everyone get referred to by their last names except Sanders? Just food for thought… 8) Sanders is not a socialist, he’s a democratic socialist. What that means is that it will power back to the people. They will have more control in government and in what needs to happen to our country. Part of that means reforming the way money is distributed. There are people without homes and food while others have multiple homes and excess of everything they could ever want. It’s not doing away with social classes, but simply leveling out the playing field a little. Helping those who are in a tough spot and keeping those with too much from cheating or rigging the system. 9) Why would it “just … not happen”? I’m curious. Right now polls are showing that Sanders is more likely to win the white house than Clinton against any republican nominee. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html 10) Trump. My goodness. If we’re going to talk about who the 1% hate, lets talk about Sanders some more. He would stop giving them tax breaks, close loopholes, and keep them from buying the government as a means of influence. Trump IS the 1%. Sure, he’s “anti-establishment” but really that’s all he’s got going for him. Maybe the 1% are trying to destroy him, but do you know who his supporters are? Racists, bigots, fascists and sexist assholes. The KKK support him and he had to “think about it” when asked if he would denounce them. He encourages violence and racism at his rallies. He perpetuates xenophobia and close-mindedness. He wants to keep out those who want refuge and even if they got in he’d be fine with them getting savagely marginalized and discriminated against. He treats anyone who’s not a white man like something less than, and that’s despicable. He is probably the least “Sane Choice for America” running in this election and I’m disgusted by how well he’s been doing. It makes me afraid that there are enough people in our country who agree with Trump and are willing to support him.

      • We usually refer to candidates in the manner they refer to themselves. Early on, “Hillary” was a way to differentiate her from Bill. And look at the posters–they all say “Bernie,” and the slogans are all “Feel the Bern,” and such. And, of course, referring to Bernie seems appropriate when discussing “Hillary.” Certainly no disrespect intended.

        None of the GOP candidates use their first name in this manner. We do, from time to time, refer to “The Donald,” but we don’t use “Rafael” for Cruz, and most people don’t know Kasich’s first name.

    • Cruz has more than what you say, Robert, or didn’t you know he was the only one that stood against ALL of Obama’s “executive orders”? INCLUDING the Iran “deal” (more like HAND OVER) and Obamacare. The only one that promises to maintain the Bill of Rights and the Amendments without removing them by “executive order” like the Democrats have PROMISED to do, or “allow” them to be removed like the other Republicans “might.” Even Trump now is saying he may or may not build that wall. All Hillary or Sanders will have to do is play back all his clips and either one will win handily. Only Cruz has not flip flopped, and that’s the kind of President we need now. You say he’s hated? I’ll tell you why: Neither side can buy him. Neither side can bully him into violating the Constitution. The Republicans hate him AND Trump? Yeah, because Cruz stood alone against things most of the others allowed through, things that hurt the American people and violate the Constitution. The others don’t give a rip about the Constitution. But he cares because he’s half Cuban by ethnicity and UNLIKE the OTHERS is grateful to live in a land that gives him freedom and cares about PRESERVING that land and its Constitution. The others find the Constitution “stands” in the way of what they WANT. That’s what the difference is. It’s time to put aside our petty wants about the SO-CALLED freebies and extras we think the others are promising and follow the one candidate who most cares about this land and about the vision of the Founding Fathers. Trump on the other hand has shown himself to be as much a liar and pro-adulterer as Hillary is, and as happy to hand out empty and questionable promises as Sanders, and HE changes his on a dime. I suppose I will be forced to vote for Trump in November, because the one thing we DO agree on is Hillary is the WORST candidate; however, while the primaries are still running I WILL vote for Cruz, because the more votes there are for Cruz, even if Trump wins, the more he will understand there is a sizable group that voted for Cruz. Vote for him now against your conscience, and you give him the signal you are for EVERYTHING he does, including lying and changing his positions on a dime. Vote for Hillary, and you say you are HAPPY poor Ambassador Stevens died in Benghazi after she LIED and claimed “no one was lost”–if the Reps have any brains they will play THAT tape and her scandals over and over and over–and you will say that you APPROVE of Bill the Masher and everything he AND SHE did to those women who dared say something about the things he’s been doing. As a woman and a FORMER FEMINIST (wanna know how I QUIT being one??), I CAN’T support THAT!

      A woman who enables her husband to do WRONG and ATTACKS the ones he victimizes and thinks nothing of her foul ups causing other people’s deaths like it did or has no trouble with her financial shenanigans or lies under oath and is dishonest as a lawyer is NOT FIT to be President, neither is a pie in the sky Marxist who wants to get rid of our democracy and turn it into another socialist regime, neither is a lying, adulterous, three time divorcee who makes his money off of gambling casinos–then has them go bankrupt, still having money himself but causing employees to lose their jobs and everything–and also owns a strip joint and boasts about his affairs and pretends to be a conservative when he’s a RINO.

      You know who’s HONEST as a lawyer? Know who is STILL married to his wife and supports his kids? (Even Sanders is divorced) Know who doesn’t have failed business deals off casinos and doesn’t own a strip joint? Know who’s been faithful to his wife? Know who stood up to Obama BY HIMSELF? Know who really loves this land and cares for it? Well, if you don’t want Cruz as President, America, fine, you WILL GET then what YOU DESERVE!

      It’s only too bad that those of us with much better sense will have to put up with YOUR DECISION…

    • You are right. Kasich isn’t going to win anything and just bans the candidate for more votes. Kasich is selfish. Ha Haha

    • That is the worst rationalization I’ve ever seen….so you’d choose to vote for a racist, bigoted, egocentric, moron who knows NOTHING about foreign policy, has admittedly never even READ the Constitution and whose idiotic rhetoric has been used by ISIS for recruiting??? REALLY? Man you have a low thresh hold for what you want as POTUS. Clinton in the only one who has enough experience, political and foreign policy know how to keep this country moving forward…..the rest will just do what the other do-nothing Republicans have done and that is completely finish off the middle class for their rich buddies – no freaking way! And Sanders Pie in the Sky ideas will get backed by no one in Congress!

    • You think in terms of “socialist” but look at all the other countries whose “socialist” methods have already been established. America is the only developed country without healthcare for all citizens. But don’t you see why that is?? It’s because America is rigged by people who are motivated for selfish reasons. Why would you want that to continue?? Wouldn’t you rather have someone who really cares is brave enough to make a change? It is only the people who can stand up and face what’s real who make any real difference.

  2. Bernie Sanders destroying a progressive future the way conservative Evangelicals destroyed Christian charity – greedy self-interest seeking a cult following.

  3. I’ve yet to see any candidate mention abolishing the federal reserve. That’s the root of all the woes and hardships that have befell the American people since 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was slipped thru Congress while everyone was gone for Christmas holidays.

    • Well, Cruz said he wanted to audit the Fed.

      But, then, of course, when Rand Paul wrote a bill, Cruz avoided voting on it.

      However, Bernie Sanders voted YES.

  4. This is the first substantive discussion I’ve seen online about the candidates running for our highest office. Usually, I read very ill-informed people writing meaningless slogans and one syllable insults. It’s refreshing to see a real political discourse.
    I have to say early in the campaign, I was for Trump for all the reasons espoused here: he’s not a politician, he is a “straight talker”, no one can “buy” his vote. But the more I studied his history, the less I liked him. And, when he began advocating breaking the Geneva Convention just to try to garner attention, I was done. I realized that the vast majority of Trump supporters are only stating what he tells them to say, followed by the phrase “believe me”. “No one is more pro-Jewish than me, believe me”. “Mexico will pay for the wall, believe me”.
    He hires foreign workers because he’s allowed to–then says he’ll close the loophole “believe me”. His “Make America Great” t-shirts are made in China.
    Based on his ignorant statements, he is either extremely ill-informed and not capable of being an effective president, he is a complete lunatic who shouldn’t have his finger on the button, or he’s simply lying to the American people so he can be elected, which makes him just as bad as other politicians–except he doesn’t know how to compromise. And, before you throw out vast over-generalizations about me, I am a former Republican who voted for Obama, but regretted my decision. I was ready to vote for ANYONE except Hillary…but now, the Republican party is about to force me to vote for her in order to stop Trump. Hillary is a criminal and it bothers my conscience to vote for her. But I can’t vote for a man who advocates war crimes and incites the rest of the world against us. Please, Republicans, put someone else, ANYONE else out there!

    • Vote for Bernie as a write in or for the many third parties out there.
      Voting for Hillary is insane. Better not to vote if that seems the only thing that you can do.

    • Has your state voted yet? If not, vote for Bernie. He still has a chance because almost all the states that Hillary are strong in, has already voted (the old south) where she won every state, but in the rest of the country, Bernie has stronger support.

  5. DT hasn’t got a single original idea except winning at all costs, and the campaign has been charged with plagiarism. DT steals from Cruz’s solutions pretending they are his own…his “issues” section” on his site is constantly changing according to what is most popular from other candidates of if there is any kind of pullback from supporters concerning anything he has said that is not popular. His deception and corporate mindset is pure establishment. I could go on!

  6. Perhaps I am understanding wrong but I am very confused. Can anyone explain how they can call a winner if it’s started that there has only been 1%reported? I’m just looking at Google and it says Clinton wins AZ with only 1% stated as being reported

    • That does seem odd. Apparently, they rely on exit polling, which assumes that people tell the truth about how they voted.

        • There was no exit polling in AZ. But AZ basically consists of Maricopa County as the most populated area in the state. Once they started getting returns from there (which includes Phoenix), they can call the state. Because there aren’t enough votes anywhere else in the state to make up for the number of votes in that one area.

  7. I just for the life of me can’t see Trump as POTUS. Its almost comical. When I listen to him speak during the debates its like he has the temperament and communication skills of a ten year old.I imagine he can bully his way around white collar business men but that shit won’t work with Putin or ISIS. At this juncture in America I would rather go with someone who at least knows their way around the White House than someone who could potentially drag us all to hell. Famous last words, what’s the worst that could happen?

      • https://youtu.be/YqmpcpSpXQg
        This is all I could find for now. But, don’t Take my word for it…take it from the people who voted.

        Mind you the election is still fresh off the press, so more is sure to come.

        It’s worth looking into… You guys have a lot of potential here to start an intelligent conversation. Lord knows the media won’t. I hope you guys do the right thing.

  8. Cruz has more than what you say, Robert, or didn’t you know he was the only one that stood against ALL of Obama’s “executive orders”? INCLUDING the Iran “deal” (more like HAND OVER) and Obamacare. The only one that promises to maintain the Bill of Rights and the Amendments without removing them by “executive order” like the Democrats have PROMISED to do, or “allow” them to be removed like the other Republicans “might.” Even Trump now is saying he may or may not build that wall. All Hillary or Sanders will have to do is play back all his clips and either one will win handily. Only Cruz has not flip flopped, and that’s the kind of President we need now. You say he’s hated? I’ll tell you why: Neither side can buy him. Neither side can bully him into violating the Constitution. The Republicans hate him AND Trump? Yeah, because Cruz stood alone against things most of the others allowed through, things that hurt the American people and violate the Constitution. The others don’t give a rip about the Constitution. But he cares because he’s half Cuban by ethnicity and UNLIKE the OTHERS is grateful to live in a land that gives him freedom and cares about PRESERVING that land and its Constitution. The others find the Constitution “stands” in the way of what they WANT. That’s what the difference is. It’s time to put aside our petty wants about the SO-CALLED freebies and extras we think the others are promising and follow the one candidate who most cares about this land and about the vision of the Founding Fathers. Trump on the other hand has shown himself to be as much a liar and pro-adulterer as Hillary is, and as happy to hand out empty and questionable promises as Sanders, and HE changes his on a dime. I suppose I will be forced to vote for Trump in November, because the one thing we DO agree on is Hillary is the WORST candidate; however, while the primaries are still running I WILL vote for Cruz, because the more votes there are for Cruz, even if Trump wins, the more he will understand there is a sizable group that voted for Cruz. Vote for him now against your conscience, and you give him the signal you are for EVERYTHING he does, including lying and changing his positions on a dime. Vote for Hillary, and you say you are HAPPY poor Ambassador Stevens died in Benghazi after she LIED and claimed “no one was lost”–if the Reps have any brains they will play THAT tape and her scandals over and over and over–and you will say that you APPROVE of Bill the Masher and everything he AND SHE did to those women who dared say something about the things he’s been doing. As a woman and a FORMER FEMINIST (wanna know how I QUIT being one??), I CAN’T support THAT!

    A woman who enables her husband to do WRONG and ATTACKS the ones he victimizes and thinks nothing of her foul ups causing other people’s deaths like it did or has no trouble with her financial shenanigans or lies under oath and is dishonest as a lawyer is NOT FIT to be President, neither is a pie in the sky Marxist who wants to get rid of our democracy and turn it into another socialist regime, neither is a lying, adulterous, three time divorcee who makes his money off of gambling casinos–then has them go bankrupt, still having money himself but causing employees to lose their jobs and everything–and also owns a strip joint and boasts about his affairs and pretends to be a conservative when he’s a RINO.

    Well, if you don’t want Cruz as President, America, fine, you WILL GET then what YOU DESERVE!

    It’s only too bad that those of us with much better sense will have to put up with YOUR DECISION…

  9. The bashing list on Trump. 1. liar 2. racist 3. woman hater 4. unqualified 5. loosed tongue 6. other counties will turn against us 7. wants to blow up the . The bashing comments go on and on.
    1. as far as I know we all lie 2 I have LISTENED to Trumps comments regarding what they say make him a racist and obviously the ones bashing Trump have not. This is THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA, NOT the United Countries. The borders are out of control, innocent people are being KILLED, there are all kinds of problems with this, the border patrol people are at wits end just trying to do their job. Americans are not being hired because illegal immigrants from many different countries are taking Americans jobs. The welfare system is overloaded with illegals and they are abusing the system. Americans benefits are becoming less due to illegal immigrants receiving the benefits. I SAW A Family in Washington who lived in 3 different HUD units driving a lexus, a lexus luxury van that had to be at least 80 or 90 thousand and another luxury car. NOW NOT ONLY WERE THEY LIVING IN GOVERNMENT PROGRAM HOUSING, DRIVING VERY EXPENSIVE CARS, THEY ALSO WOULD GET BAGS AND BAGS AND BAGS OF GROCERIES OUT OF THEIR CARS they would literally expect you to move out of the walkway for them even if you were there first, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU WHILE THEY RIP OFF OUR SYSTEM. THEN THEY CUSS YOU OUT. These are just a few of real life experiences. As far as 3. Where did woman hater come from?. Really!. 4. Lacks political qualifications, yes I agree with that, some for the good, some for the bad. We are talking about an extremely qualified man in business with a high eye q. Do you really think he is incapable of learning what needs to be learned and practiced in holding Political Office?. 5, loosed tongue, absolutely. He needs to really work on that. Other countries will turn against us. THEY ALREADY HAVE and now we have a Prince demanding Trump not to run. SINCE WHEN DO WE LET ANOTHER COUNTRY TELL US WHO CAN AND CANNOT RUN FOR OFFICE. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU ?. Is this what you want, a President who sells us off piece by piece, loss of freedom of speech, other countries running our government, political correctness to where we loose our rights, disrespect from illegal immigrants, more crimes and murder and how about we just give up everything to please everyone else ?..These things are bringing us down and we will be no more. You see where Trump speaks out and what he says yet do you seriously want another Obama or Bush in office. We know Hillary has done allot of awful things and yet she still runs for President. They all have huge egos, not just Trump. What we do not really see in the so called experienced politician is what they are really thinking. WHAT ABOUT THE RELEASE OF TRUMPS WIFE PHOTOS, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT CRUZ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT YET ALL THEY CAN TALK ABOUT IS TRUMP MAKING THE COMMENT OF CRUZs wife. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN RUINING THEIR OWN PARTY, they act like babies if they do not get their way, they hold decisions off until they hopefully win and now are taking every step they can to banish Trump from possibly holding office, even if they do not care for Cruz, they will stand for him. I AM ASHAMED THAT I WAS ONE REPUBLICAN. THEY HAVE DESTROYED THEIR PARTY. IT IS SO DIVIDED AND ITS HUMILIATING. I do agree with certain very important issues Trump needs to work on yet I think any other choice will land us into a country lost. Try living in the real world where money cant buy you safety or keep you far away from crime. See what is really out here that the common American lives with. Trump is not lying about the real life issues.

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