In a time frame which can be construed as a response to the Romney “47%” remarks, another video is circulating today, this one featuring words of Illinois State Senator Barack Obama in 1998 explaining his support for wealth redistribution.

Report from CNN:

After withstanding searing criticism from both rivals and fellow Republicans on his secretly recorded remarks at a fund-raiser in May, Mitt Romney and his campaign are mounting a counter-offensive with a recording they hope will go viral as well: then-Illinois state Senator Barack Obama speaking favorably of “redistribution.”

The audio clip first surfaced Tuesday, as Democrats were seizing upon their own video of Romney speaking at a private fund-raiser in Florida. That event was held in May.

The clip of Obama was recorded in 1998 at Loyola University, according to Romney’s campaign and fellow Republicans who are aggressively promoting it. It features the future president discussing what he calls a “propaganda campaign” against government funded entities, and suggesting better ways to make government more effective.

“There has been a systematic – I don’t think it’s too strong to call it a propaganda campaign – against the possibility of government action and its efficacy,” he is heard saying in the audio clip. “And I think some of it has been deserved.”

Later in the recording, Obama says he wants to “resuscitate this notion that we’re all in this thing together, leave nobody behind, we do have to be innovative in thinking how – what are the delivery systems that are actually effective and meet people where they live.”

He continues: “I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution – because I actually believe in some redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”

Here is audio of Obama’s words from 1998:

Thoughts on this? These beliefs from the President aren’t all that new since there were numerous stories in 2008 regarding his views on redistribution.

28 COMMENTS

  1. They both believe in the same thing here. The only difference is who the wealth gets distributed too. The so called “needy” or to the greedy.

    • Hopefully, it won’t be distributed to anyone. Go back to the Constitution. What money were make and earn should be ours. Not the illegals, not the people who feel they are entitled to it, not anyone. We pay taxes and that should only go to people’s retirement and well being. The post office and national parks. Everything else should be operated by the private sector.

      • Pfft. Bad example. The post office will send a “you’re not welcome” letter all the way from Tampa to Wasilla for FORTY FIVE CENTS.

        Try sending the SAME EXACT letter via private sector (FedEx), and the cheapest price is (wait for it. . .wait for it. . .)

        NINETY-TWO DOLLARS and FORTY-NINE CENTS.

        The only reason the post office has any problems is that we pay less than FOUR-TENTHS of ONE percent of the value of the service.

        • You forgot to mention USPS being forced to put aside 75 YEARS worth of retirement and medical benefits. THAT’S what doing them in, just as planned.

          • Actually, I didn’t forget it. I just wanted to focus on the point that we do NOT hold “private sector” businesses to the same, impossible standards we set for our government agencies.

            The post office is an incredible bargain,and a marvel of efficiency. Most people don’t know it, but after you’ve paid almost TWENTY DOLLARS to FedEx et al., they then hire the very same POST OFFICE to deliver many packages for them.

            It’s like city water, which is almost free–yet some companies bottle that VERY SAME tap water, and charge you a buck a bottle. And you pay it.

            The post office has received NO direct government funding for THIRTY years. And we still beat them up.

  2. Clumsy attempt at counterattack. This was a PUBLIC speech, that is not different from what Obama has been saying all along.

    I know! I think I’ll “leak” last week’s episode of South Park!!

    Since when can a 14-year-old public speech be considered a “leak”? Isn’t a “leak” something that was private or classified that is made public? This is neither a “leak” nor news.

  3. This just shows Obama’s intent to make the U.S.A. a socialistic country with the government having the power to take money from one group and giving it to those who are continuing to depend on the government and aren’t trying to get out of poverty and help themselves. I’m not talking about those who are on social security or medicare, I’m talking about those who have been on welfare for generations and for many illigals who come to the US just to get on welfare programs. They need to be given the opportunity to help themselves, not just keep giving them money without having to work. They would feel much better about themselves if they thought they were doing something to earn a living.

    Obama just wants everyone to be dependant on the government and not able to provide for themselves and have some dignity. If he is our president for another four years, I really fear for our country.

  4. Since this kerfuffle failed, the media are now talking about Obama joking at a fundraiser that if they have too much money, they could give $10 million to his super pac.

    Paul C. Ryan, speaking for the elections commission, says that’s probably not as bad as Romney APPEARING at a super pac event.

    But the media will keep trying to get something on Obama, to make sure that the “horse race” remains tight. God forbid they should actually have to fall back on talking about issues.

  5. What is happening to America? Home of the brave, land of the free? Big government is holding people hostages. Giving out freebes and making us dependent on the Socialist government. This is not freedom. Living in fear, looking over our shoulders. I have worked hard all my life. I love being my own person. This is why our past families left Europe. Now, jealous people are trying to pull us down. Apologizing. Very sad.

    • I agree. Look, history has proven that smaller government involvement in citizens lives will produce a higher level of individual liberty and freedom. This in turn will create confidence in our own abilities to make decisions about our futures. Bigger government never works. Even FDR stated that his social works programs should be a temporary solution to the countries problems during the depression. In 1980 when our country looked very similar to today’s economic problems, President Reagan reduced the size of government, lowered taxes, and got out of peoples lives. This lifted the american spirit, gave us confidence and led us out of economic crisis and into one of the longest and most productive times in American history. How quickly we forget the answers to these issues.

  6. Why is our leader on the Letterman Show campaigning when our foreign policies are falling apart? Israel, the middle east. It is all so sad that nothing is being done about this. Under previous presidents this would never had happened. Our economy, our triple digit debt, all this under Obama. He has done nothing. But of course that is his “plan” to bring America as we once knew it to its knees. He’s happy. Open society, no borders, funny, no other country in the world has open borders. He hates what America stands for. So does all his friends, his dad and administration. Rev. Wrightt says, DAMN AMERICA! Obama is making sure that happens.

    • I am frustrated that the Liberal media do not make Obama accountable for his decisions and lack thereof. Where are the questions about terrorist attacks on 911 and the embassies going unprotected. Why the cover up that it was not a terrorist attack, just reaction to a video, and now confirmation that it was an terrorist attack, but just last night the President is still saying it was caused by a video. Why do we not know what happened to these 3 dead Americans? Why is our President so happy to go to Las Vegas and fund raise in light of the disasters and then go on Letterman and keep Israel waiting in the wings? What about the recent shootings of Afghanistan Army men shooting at our soldiers? Where is his out cry?
      Are we to believe Romney is the one at fault for getting this all wrong? That he is only concerned for the 10%? I’d like to start seeing our President care period!!!!

      • There is no liberal media (except for MSNBC) it is just that Rufus Murdock’s Fox network (Yes! That Rufus Murdock, you ignorant fools) is so far right that everyone who watches them thinks that everybody left of FOX (including middle of the road Republicans) is a Liberal. There was a time, not so long ago when people spoke of civil rights for all, free speech and the right to live your life as you wished whatever religion, skin color, or sexual preference you were, but now we can’t even talk about those things without being branded a liberal. We can’t even talk about a person’s right to choose to use birth control or to have an abortion (all very private things and well within the preview of personal choice) without being bullied my Fox and the neo-cons and the Tea-party. Nobody wants to take away our shotguns or rifles you use to hunt, but do you really think that handguns, assault weapons, sub-machine guns, etc. should be in the hands of anyone other than the military and National Guard (the well-ordered Militia of the Constitution). The Right lies and polarizes and then blames the left (AND MIDDLE) for doing exactly those things. Libertarians have had their often correct and valid opinions subsumed by the neo-con right who has no belief in those philosophies, nor any intention to follow through on them if elected. The middle of the road average Joe has no place in either party if you believe the RIght. What the hell has this country come to when we will believe people like Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and their cronies.

        Sign me Disgusted, 61 years old and that’s too damned old to change.

  7. OBAMA represents BIG GOVERNMENT. Change the way America operates under the Constitution .
    Romney represents our man who will work for us, the people! Freedom the way our fore fathers fought and died for. Are we going to let Obama come in and destroy all this? NO!

  8. NATE:

    I’ve been wondering how to get more involvement by more people.

    One simple way would be to make the “notify me” button an “opt out” automatic yes. There have been threads in which I forgot to opt-in, and thought nobody cared about that topic. Then, on a whim, I went back to check it.

    We’ve had another situation where the initial invitation attracted few people, but then the news changed, or the discussion suddenly became very active. However, only the people who got in on the first day know what’s going on. Not sure how to get new people into the discussion when we only have a few people going back and forth.

      • Yeah, that’s true–but at least it’s a response πŸ˜‰

        Besides, then we could make fun of the people who think they’re too good to talk to us.

        But, seriously, folks, I’ve gone back from thread to thread. Most of them only have three or four people involved. The other thing is, after a few days, you’ve probably got all the people who are interested.

        This one is slightly better than most–six, counting the moderator. But it struck me that if you write a new response, the only people who will read it is the four people (besides the writer and moderator) who have opted in.

        Here’s another idea for you: Sometimes discussions take an unexpected turn. If a handful of people strike on something, what you could do is put a NEW headline on it–as if it were a new post–to direct them to an ongoing discussion that is worthy of their consideration. Bring more people in. It’s too bad when we have only three people talking–but the discussion is solid.

    • Goethe Behr — more involvement?

      Here you go. My wife wants me to post this on her behalf:

      “I’d rather have a root-canal than vote for either trash”.

  9. My take:

    This election has been reduced again to voting for the “lesser of two evils” (but which one is the “lesser”?).
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    All indicators point that Rmoney is the CHOSEN ONE by the NY and London Banks (the International Banksters that control the Federal Reserve) and by Israel.

    Since their goals are directly opposite to the well-being of our Nation, by deduction this Bought-And-Paid-For-Mitt-Mutton-Puppet MUST NOT win!

    [[Should Rmoney win — expect the US to start an all out war against Iran to protect Israel from a possible single atomic bomb being developed in…10 years from now…? (certainly not to protect the US from such silly and nonthreatening remote eventuality) within a week of this creature taking office.

    What’s even more worrisome, is this Creature’s Control of the GOP (forcing a fraudulent “Aye” vote at the RNC convention), thus assuring It won’t be opposed to win a 2nd term!

    Eight years of Mutton-Mitt will mean a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE USA — when wars will be started at a drop of an Israeli Hat (sorry, meant to say: yamaka), when the US Constitution will become null-and-void, when the US Dollar will finally become utterly worthless, by a phone call from his Banker Masters (who’ll call in their chips).]]
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    On the other-hand — the BO Creature will have 4 more years to further plunge us into Socialism and suck us dry through more taxation and further devaluation of the US Dollar and the attempted destruction of our Constitutional Rights.

    This creature will, however, be hampered by some republican wins in both Houses, thus having most of its venomous teeth pulled during its 2nd term.

    [[However, should the BO see itself not as a clear winner, it will assure its reelection by attacking Iran with two weeks to go (mid-to-late October) — since a “patriotic” War always guarantees the “Commander-and-Chief” a sure win!]]
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    Conclusion:

    Either subhuman will get us into never ending wars and ever closer to loss of All Liberty, All Prosperity and the eventual Total End of Our Nation as Free People!

    For which “lesser evil” will you vote, now?
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    I, for one (and my family and friends) will not be party to such infamy! If either of these Horrible Creatures wins, at least we’ll have a clear conscience that we did not compromise our principles by acknowledging their existence in the voting booths!

    We will vote our Conscience — Writing In Dr. Ron Paul!

    A vote on principles is much better than a No Vote — and a trillion times better than voting for what one perceives as the “lesser of two evils”!

    Write in Ron Paul for 2012 President is online!

    Vote and spread it like wildfire!

    http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/our-mission/

  10. Mack, you’ve got deep seated “issues” and/or have been thoroughly brainwashed by the right-wing propaganda machine that manipulates and feeds your fears. Like most who voice your “concerns” – presuming they are real and you are real and not a “straw man” pretending your beliefs in hopes of swaying others by feeding their fears – your remarks are the parroted talking-point memos of the GOP, the Romney campaign, and from the extreme personalities of Fox Entertainment and Clear Channel radio. Most of what you voice is irrational fear and utter nonsense that is imagined and/or fabricated by those right-wing functionaries who are holding your mind hostage. Why not try gaining a balanced perspective of the landscape and current affairs through more objective or, at least, TRUTHFUL input by listening to CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS or Current and MSNBC to counter-balance the swill you’re being force fed by Fox and Clear Channel? You can be sure Obama loves this country as much as you do, and certainly as much as Romney does.

    Have you ever questioned the underlying motivations why ultra billionaires in banking, oil, insurance, pharmaceuticals, healthcare, weapons systems manufacturers, etc would individually be throwing hundreds of millions of dollars into smear ads to defeat Obama? If Obama was bad for the middle-class they wouldn’t care. Fact is, Obama is bad for them because he wants to regulate banking (remember the crash of 2008?), reduce our petroleum dependence (renewable energy holds little for them), cut the sky-rocketing cost of healthcare (tired of big pharma/insurance ripping you off?) and reducing taxes for the middle-class, while letting them revert to the levels they were before Bush/Cheney destroyed the economy… and none of those huge defense expenditures saved us from September 11, because Bush/Cheney and friends slept during their watch, instead of listening to the warnings of the CIA and diligently mounting even the minimum preventative defense by notifying the airlines, flight schools or airline travelers to report any suspect activity.

    The bloated, greedy, incompetent Elephant left a big heap of stinking crap behind when the GOP circus left town… Obama brought the broom! The GOP has fought him every step of the way instead of patriotically helping him rebuild the economy and put people back to work. Obama’s certainly not perfect, but he truly is your friend. Listen: Do yourself, your children and grandchildren an epic favor… vote for him! Obama is all that’s standing between you and the subjugation and tyranny of the ultra-rich having their boot heel mashed against your sorry throat.

    • We Can’t Remake the World with Bribes and Bombs!

      by Ron Paul:

      The attack on the US consulate in Libya and the killing of the US Ambassador and several aides is another tragic example of how our interventionist foreign policy undermines our national security. The more the US tries to control the rest of the world, either by democracy promotion, aid to foreign governments, or by bombs, the more events spin out of control into chaos, unintended consequences, and blowback.

      Unfortunately, what we saw in Libya last week is nothing new.

      In 1980s Afghanistan, the US supported Islamic radicals in their efforts to expel the invading Soviet military. These radicals became what is known to be al-Qaeda, and our one-times allies turned on us most spectacularly on September 11, 2001.

      Iraq did not have a significant al-Qaeda presence before the 2003 US invasion, but our occupation of that country and attempt to remake it in our image caused a massive reaction that opened the door to al-Qaeda, leading to thousands of US soldiers dead, a country destroyed, and instability that shows no sign of diminishing.

      In Libya we worked with, among others, the rebel Libyan Fighting Group (LIFG) which included foreign elements of al-Qaeda. It has been pointed out that the al-Qaeda affiliated radicals we fought in Iraq were some of the same groups we worked with to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya. Last year in a television interview I predicted that the result of NATO’s bombing of Libya would likely be an increased al-Qaeda presence in the country. I said at the time that we may be delivering al-Qaeda another prize.

      Not long after NATO overthrew Gaddafi, the al-Qaeda flag was flown over the courthouse in Benghazi. Should we be surprised, then, that less than a year later there would be an attack on our consulate in Benghazi? We have been told for at least the past eleven years that these people are the enemy who seeks to do us harm.

      There is danger in the belief we can remake the world by bribing some countries and bombing others. But that is precisely what the interventionists – be they liberal or conservative – seem to believe. When the world does not conform to their image, they seem genuinely shocked. The secretary of state’s reaction to the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was one of confusion. β€œHow could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction,” she asked.

      The problem is that we do not know and we cannot know enough about these societies we are seeking to remake. We never try to see through the eyes of those we seek to liberate. Libya is in utter chaos, the infrastructure has been bombed to rubble, the economy has ceased to exist, gangs and militias rule by brutal force, the government is seen as a completely illegitimate and powerless US puppet. How could anyone be shocked that the Libyans do not see our bombing their country as saving it from destruction?

      Currently, the US is actively supporting rebels in Syria that even our CIA tells us are affiliated with al-Qaeda. Many of these radical Islamist fighters in Syria were not long ago fighting in Libya. We must learn from these mistakes and immediately cease all support for the Syrian rebels, lest history once again repeat itself. We are literally backing the same people in Syria that we are fighting in Afghanistan and that have just killed our ambassador in Libya! We must finally abandon the interventionist impulse before it is too late.

  11. Amy must have listened to Fox news. you have to hear the entire conversation where he actually talks about using the marketplace and private sector.

    • Write in Ron Paul for 2012 President is online!

      Vote and spread it like wildfire!

      http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/about-us/

      —————————————————–

      A vote on principles is much better than a No Vote β€” and a trillion times better than voting for what one perceives as the β€œlesser of two evils”!

      My take:

      This election has been reduced again to voting for the β€œlesser of two evils” (but which one is the β€œlesser”?).
      β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”-

      All indicators point that Rmoney is the CHOSEN ONE by the NY and London Banks (the International Banksters that control the Federal Reserve) and by Israel.

      Since their goals are directly opposite to the well-being of our Nation, by deduction this Bought-And-Paid-For-Mitt-Mutton-Puppet MUST NOT win!

      [[Should Rmoney win — expect the US to start an all out war against Iran to protect Israel from a possible single atomic bomb being developed in…10 years from now…? (certainly not to protect the US from such silly and nonthreatening remote eventuality) within a week of this creature taking office.

      What’s even more worrisome, is this Creature’s Control of the GOP (forcing a fraudulent “Aye” vote at the RNC convention), thus assuring It won’t be opposed to win a 2nd term!

      Eight years of Mutton-Mitt will mean a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE USA — when wars will be started at a drop of an Israeli Hat (sorry, meant to say: yamaka), when the US Constitution will become null-and-void, when the US Dollar will finally become utterly worthless, by a phone call from his Banker Masters (who’ll call in their chips).]]
      β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”-

      On the other-hand β€” the BO Creature will have 4 more years to further plunge us into Socialism and suck us dry through more taxation and further devaluation of the US Dollar and the attempted destruction of our Constitutional Rights.

      This creature will, however, be hampered by some republican wins in both Houses, thus having most of its venomous teeth pulled during its 2nd term.

      [[However, should the BO see itself not as a clear winner, it will assure its reelection by attacking Iran with two weeks to go (mid-to-late October) — since a “patriotic” War always guarantees the “Commander-and-Chief” a sure win!]]
      β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”

      Conclusion:

      Either subhuman will get us into never ending wars and ever closer to loss of All Liberty, All Prosperity and the eventual Total End of Our Nation as Free People!

      For which β€œlesser evil” will you vote, now?
      β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”

      I, for one (and my family and friends) will not be party to such infamy! If either of these Horrible Creatures wins, at least we’ll have a clear conscience that we did not compromise our principles by acknowledging their existence in the voting booths!

      We will vote our Conscience β€” Writing In Dr. Ron Paul!

  12. FROM RASMUSSEN:

    63 percent of Republican voters believe their representatives in Washington are out of touch with the party base. They detest corporate welfare and government bailouts, even though their party leaders support them.

    The Republican base is looking for someone like a 21st century Ronald Reagan, who will display his faith in the American people. The Washington Republicans are more comfortable with politicians like George W. Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Though the establishment has dominated the party since Reagan left the White House, the 2012 election could well be the end of the line.

  13. We are seeing the results of the Military-Industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about gaining a real solid foothold in government under the administration of
    Reagan and continuing under the Bush(s). Whoever thought it was a good idea to elect a former head of the CIA as president. PLEASE! Who really benefits from a ground war, not the soldiers and the armed forces, not the people of any of the countries involved. IT IS THE MUNITIONS COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS WHO COME IN TO BUILD AND REBUILD INFASTRUCTURE, or, in other words the Military -Industrial Complex. Why didn’t Bush (W.) ask congress to fund the war with taxes BECAUSE than we would not have had to borrow from the Usury Banks and pay such interest. If we elect another of these Neo-Con Tax-cut and be damned Republicans the nation WILL NOT Survive it. If you’re worried about the economy wise up!. Wake up and smell the roses, we can’t take another four to eight years of a Bushlike presidency, not and have a country, let alone a constitution left to talk about. Too many of you on here are spouting the Republican line ( which is a complete fallacy based on lies piled upon lies) without having single original thought.

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