Speaking at a private fundraiser back in May of this year, Mitt Romney stated that the nearly 47% of Americans who don’t pay federal income taxes are more inclined to vote for President Obama. Romney listed reasons such as dependency on government programs as why the President might appeal to these voters over Romney.

Report from US News and World Report:

One year to the day after the Occupy Wall Street protests began, Mitt Romney has found himself in the center of a debate over income inequality and taxes—a subject the Occupy movement made its focus.

On Monday, Mother Jones posted a video that showed Mitt Romney telling wealthy donors at a fundraiser in May that “47 percent” of Americans were freeloaders of the government. “These are people who pay no income tax,” the GOP presidential candidate said.

While Romney’s comments were inartful, the 47 percent number is not new.

For years, the number of non-tax payers in America was discussed only in conservative circles. But the number wasn’t yet close to half of all Americans. Curtis Dubay, a senior tax policy analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation, says: “We talked about it a lot, these non-payers who filed tax returns but had no liability… But it didn’t get a lot of attention.”

In 2010, though, the Washington-based Tax Policy Center first projected the number of Americans who wouldn’t pay federal income taxes for 2009 at 47 percent. The Associated Press reported on their projections around tax day, and it set off a firestorm of coverage in the Atlantic, New York Times and Fox News.

In October 2011, the number got another boost after it became the basis of a blog “We are the 53 percent,” started by conservative bloggers Erik Erickson of RedState.org and Josh Trevino from the Texas Public Policy Foundation. The blog was in response to an Occupy Wall Street blog “We are the 99 percent.”

Here is the video in question:

Many are hearkening back to President Obama’s “you didn’t build that” remark from earlier this year in July or back to his “bitter clinger” remarks from 2008. I think the latter may be more of a reasonable comparison since it was also delivered to a closed-door fundraiser and was a generalized view of a certain segment of the population.

You do the math. Thoughts on this? Is it a major gaffe or media hype?

44 COMMENTS

  1. As I noted on the other thread, this could actually help Romney, if he “owns” it and comes off as tough and steady–even if you don’t agree with him. He has mealy-mouthed it a bit, but mostly he’s stood his ground.

    Likewise, Obama should have stood by his “bitter clinger” quote, and could have turned that to HIS advantage, too.

    BTW, the “you didn’t build that” furor was idiotic. The whole paragraph was about INFRASTRUCTURE that makes business possible. THAT is what Obama said you didn’t build.

  2. How dare you?

    You can report what the lame stream says, but describe it as such.

    Mitt romney, in a private setting, where his privacy was being invaded by taping a conversation that was supposed to be private.

    That said there was nothing he said that was not true. Though in a public setting he might express himself differently.

    So do what your job is, let us know what is going on and not editorialize.

    • Patricia, How can you be so blind?
      What is true, is that he’s running to be The President of all of us, including the 47%. That 47% who do not pay income taxes is 1/3 Families making $50K or less which do pay payroll and sales taxes, 1/3 retirees or the best generation (your Mom and Grandma), and 1/3 children and our soldiers..
      And no matter how much money you have, you can not grow a business, if the government does not invest greatly in education and services to allow the 47% to grow out of poverty. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did not even start “alone”, and in order to grow needed the talent of well educated minds hungry to succeed.

    • How can you be so blind?
      What is true, is that he’s running to be The President of all of us, including the 47%. That 47% who do not pay income taxes is 1/3 Families making $50K or less which do pay payroll and sales taxes, 1/3 retirees or the best generation (your Mom and Grandma), and 1/3 children and our soldiers..
      And no matter how much money you have, you can not grow a business, if the government does not invest greatly in education and services to allow the 47% to grow out of poverty. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did not even start “alone”, and in order to grow needed the talent of well educated minds hungry to succeed.

  3. There is an irony in this issue. Romney said that 47% of us don’t pay federal income tax. About half of them don’t earn enough to owe.

    HOWEVER, the other half are doing OK but use deductions, shelters, and other tax dodges (including secret accounts in the Cayman Islands) to get out of paying tax. In other words, he was complaining about some of the “one percenters” in his own audience.

  4. What he said was the truth — people who receive government help are more likely to vote Democrat, out of fear if for no other reason. After all, the Dem-hype is that the Republicans are going to cancel SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, government housing, and any other program for the poor. It’s hard to not be afraid when that is all you have to live on, with no reasonable hope of getting a job. So it becomes voluntary enslavement — the government has done it to one sector of our country after another. First offered a helping hand, which led to the dependency. My Dad was a farmer and in the 1964 election I asked him who he was going to vote for and he said the Democrats because he couldn’t survive without the farm subsidies. And he was as hard a worker as you will ever find in America. And it’s not like you could avoid farm subsidies — that issue made it all the way to the Supreme Court, which decided that the success of the farm subsidy program depended on every farmer’s participation.

    I do hope he stands by what he said — the hope for the future is jobs, not more federal assistance to the poor.

    • oh, what a croc! your father could’ve said no to subsides(or govt. handouts, as you might call them). why is that any different than anyone one else needing help from the govt. to survive. The fact is sometimes people need some asst. from their govt., (they pay into the system, that is there to help them in emergencies). why was it ok for your family to live off govt. asst. & it’s “bad’ if others need it.?

    • marlene —

      This election has been reduced again to voting for the “lesser of two evils” (but which one is the “lesser”?).
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      All indicators point that Rmoney is the CHOSEN ONE by the NY and London Banks (the International Banksters that control the Federal Reserve) and by Israel.

      Since their goals are directly opposite to the well-being of our Nation, by deduction this Bought-And-Paid-For-Mitt-Mutton-Puppet MUST NOT win!

      [[Should Rmoney win — expect the US to start an all out war against Iran to protect Israel from a possible single atomic bomb being developed in…10 years from now…? (certainly not to protect the US from such silly and nonthreatening remote eventuality) within a week of this creature taking office.

      What’s even more worrisome, is this Creature’s Control of the GOP (forcing a fraudulent “Aye” vote at the RNC convention), thus assuring It won’t be opposed to win a 2nd term!

      Eight years of Mutton-Mitt will mean a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE USA — when wars will be started at a drop of an Israeli Hat (sorry, meant to say: yamaka), when the US Constitution will become null-and-void, when the US Dollar will finally become utterly worthless, by a phone call from his Banker Masters (who’ll call in their chips).]]
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      On the other-hand — the BO Creature will have 4 more years to further plunge us into Socialism and suck us dry through more taxation and further devaluation of the US Dollar and the attempted destruction of our Constitutional Rights.

      This creature will, however, be hampered by some republican wins in both Houses, thus having most of its venomous teeth pulled during its 2nd term.

      [[However, should the BO see itself not as a clear winner, it will assure its reelection by attacking Iran with two weeks to go (mid-to-late October) — since a “patriotic” War always guarantees the “Commander-and-Chief” a sure win!]]
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      Conclusion:

      Either subhuman will get us into never ending wars and ever closer to loss of All Liberty, All Prosperity and the eventual Total End of Our Nation as Free People!

      For which “lesser evil” will you vote, now?
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      I, for one (and my family and friends) will not be party to such infamy! If either of these Horrible Creatures wins, at least we’ll have a clear conscience that we did not compromise our principles by acknowledging their existence in the voting booths!

      We will vote our Conscience — Writing In Dr. Ron Paul!

      A vote on principles is much better than a No Vote — and a trillion times better than voting for what one perceives as the “lesser of two evils”!

      Write in Ron Paul for 2012 President is online!

      Vote and spread it like wildfire!

      http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/about-us/

    • –far right.

      No, wait, now he’s centrist. . .no, going left now. . .back to the right. . .running down the line. . .back to the left. . .OMIGOD, now he is actually going BACKWARD!

  5. While it is true that 47% don’t pay income taxes, I believe it is not true that *all* of them will vote for Obama. To divide your political targets by how much taxes people pay or government benefits they receive is not wise. He would be better to speak a strong mix of conservatism and libertarianism – he would get the ears of 60+ percent of the country.

    There are people in the 47% who fall into the ‘middle class/middle income group’ simply because they have enough children to qualify them for more in tax credits than they pay in income taxes. They will definitely vote for him, plus liberalism is a rich person’s disease more than the poor. There are very smart poor people who are raising their kids right and want a free society for their future.

    Romney should stand his ground on the 47% not paying taxes, but also apologize to them for not having faith in them. He should make this a central tenet of the campaign – to reform the entitlement programs, get out the fraud, improve delivery to those truly in need….etc

    This is complete media hype, but the problem is too many people still trust the media. The deal is everyone knows its true about the 47%, at least the taxes part.

    Seeing this video though does make me concerned, i mean, i know he’ll be a better president than Obama, but will he be good enough? Will he do some stupid things that will make re-election difficult? It took the media and democrats 6 years to tear down bush enough for the country to really reject him, the country is much more skeptical of gov’t (thank God) these days, so it won’t take much to turn the tide.

    If Romney wins, Obama won’t go away – he’ll probably want a rematch.

  6. There is absolutely no comparison in those 2 statements. “You didn’t build that” was taken out of context and twisted to meet Romney’s campaign needs. The notion that the 47%, if it’s a true number of non-taxpayers, vote Democratic is invented wholecloth by Romney. He backs it up with nothing, as usual. In fact, the opposite is true at the state level, where the blue states support the red. And we’re getting sick of all this BS whining about how Gopers carry the load.

  7. This whole debate is stupid. They man stated a fact. How is that a “gaffe” ? This is pure media hype, and I’m not even a Romney fan.

    I also totally agree with Goethe (we don’t always agree, by the way) about the “you didn’t build that” hoopla. Obama was right about that. I use roads every day that I didn’t build myself. My tax dollars, shrunken, extorted, and mis-managed though they may be, helped along with your tax dollars to “build that”. Personally, I’d like to see an experiment where all the roads in a state were privately-owned toll roads, but the fact is that given the way thing work today, Mr. Obama was right – I had help and I didn’t “build that” myself.

    • what is it that romney was right about? the 47% number? maybe. but his point in mentioning it was that those people don’t matter (politically) because they consider themselves “victims”, “expect entitlements”, pay no taxes, etc. well, that is the OPINION of a very elitist hypocrite of a man who was born with a silver spoon. This man believes in “corporate” welfare, has no problem giving the wealthy(including himself) such hefty tax breaks, that they end up paying less taxes(percentage wise) than someone who makes middle income wages. he does so by taking advantage of “welfare” type tax breaks, loop holes like hiding money in offshore accts. etc. Neville, there are many “gaffes” in what he said but maybe the biggest is claiming these people would “never” vote for him, the people who use govt. “handouts” like welfare……..turns out his own father was on welfare, growing up as an immigrant from mexico. So by his own calculations his own father could never vote for him. irony…..it bites ya in the ass every time!!!

      • Cher,
        Children born with a silver spoon do not have parents that are on welfare. Pick one or the other; you can’t have both.

        • Julie:

          Read more carefully. Cher said that people born with a silver spoon shouldn’t talk about people who need help.

          Better yet, I like the clip of Lenore Romney (Mittney’s mom) saying that her family would not have survived WITHOUT WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS.

          Who would have thought that Mittney would call his father a shiftless slob?

    • Near the end, Jesse says that “Citizens United” may very well be the downfall of our country. He notes that China could pick an American to run and put many billions of dollars into the campaign. (For all we know, they already have.)

      The way I see it, if you cannot vote, you should not be allowed to “buy votes” through paid propaganda.

      Big media expenditures are obvious. We should be allowed to “follow the money,” as they said during Watergate, at least to see WHO is brainwashing us.

  8. Romney has a strange view of the American people if he thinks the only people who support Obama are irresponsible moochers who pay no income taxes.

    I do feel “entitled” to social security and medicare now that I am retired. I feel entitled because I paid payroll taxes AND federal and state income taxes all through my working years. In fact, I took home less than 60% of my pay. I still pay income taxes. Yet I voted for Barack Obama and will vote for him again. I appreciate that my government keeps me safe from attack by foreign powers and safe from the few predatory American business men who would sell me unsafe food and drugs and pollute the water I drink and the air I breathe were it not for government regulations. I think government is necessary and we have to be willing to pay our taxes if we want to have good government.

    Perhaps Romney himself is part of that 47% who paid no income tax for most of the past 10 years. We have only his word for it.

  9. *The Federal Reserve Has Been Given Police Powers, Glock 22s and Patrol Cars*

    “By mid morning on Monday, September 17, as Occupy Wall Street protesters marched around the perimeter of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, all signs that an FRPD (Federal Reserve Police Department) existed had disappeared. The FRPD patrol cars and law enforcement officers had been replaced by NYPD patrol cars and officers. That decision may have been made to keep from drawing attention to a mushrooming new domestic police force that most Americans do not know exists.

    Quietly, without fanfare or Congressional hearings, the USA Patriot Act in 2001 bestowed on the 12 privately owned Federal Reserve Banks, domestic policing powers.

    Section 364 of the Act, “Uniform Protection Authority for Federal Reserve,” reads: “Law enforcement officers designated or authorized by the Board or a reserve bank under paragraph (1) or (2) are authorized while on duty to carry firearms and make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence…Such officers shall have access to law enforcement information that may be necessary for the protection of the property or personnel of the Board or a reserve bank.”

    Read full article:

    http://www.alternet.org/economy/federal-reserve-privately-owned-banking-cartel-has-been-given-police-powers-glock-22s-and

    JUST WHAT WE NEED — MORE GOONS WITH GUNS….

    • Not sure what the Patriot Act is. Could someone explain it to me — is it like an Act to get rid of Patriots…?

  10. 1-It is not a fact that half of America are moochers that expect free handouts from the government. Anyone who suggest that they are is just being dishonest.

    2-“You didn’t build that” was a downfall moment for Romney, not Obama. That’s when so many people realized that Roment just can’t come up with anything but lies to counter Obama. After all he was lying when he said Obama was saying that rich people didn’t build that. That’s NOT what Obama was saying by any stretch of the imagination.

  11. Anyone with any intelligence knows what Mitt Romney says is true. We are living with third generation welfare recipients who have never done anything but walk to the mailbox to get the check those of us who are working send them each month. Wall Street protesters don’t know what work is. They either live off their hard working parents or off the government. Not one single, hard working American would deny there are people who need our help and do not begrudge helping those in need. It’s that 30% that are able, but too lazy or drugged up to work we resent. By the way WE THE PEOPLE are the government as we are the ones who fund it all. So why can’t WE THE PEOPLE decide which people we want to assist.

  12. I guess no one does their own taxes anymore. Or they never stopped to think what this figure means in relation to the 1040?

    You get a $3700 deduction per dependent AND a $1000 credit per child. And then there’s the earned income credit. And the other deductions you’re likely to get. I haven’t done the math, but I’m guessing a married couple with 3 children has to make around $40K before they pay any taxes. If you have more children that threshold goes up and with less it goes down.

    Regardless, with the threshold so close to the median income and # of children, a recession is going to send a significant number of people into the “not paying” territory.

    I’m sure there are a lot of families making $30-$40K per year who consider themselves Republicans and not moochers. I doubt Romneys’ comments are going to alienate them.

    It’s ridiculous how far these statistics get divorced from reality.

  13. That grossly inaccurate and emotional Right-Wing blather about the 47% that Romney used to manipulate a room full of corporate supremacists comes as no surprise to many of us. What is truly surprising and incomprehensible are those same old low-information voters who continue to support this latest Great White Dope offered to them by the Republican Party and does not deter them even as their candidate implodes and self-destructs right before their very eyes. What is it going to take for these folks to finally come to their senses and stop voting against their own best interests?

  14. What is true, is that he’s running to be The President of all of us, including the 47%. That 47% who do not pay income taxes is 1/3 Families making $50K or less which do pay payroll and sales taxes, 1/3 retirees or the best generation (your Mom and Grandma), and 1/3 children and our soldiers..
    And no matter how much money you have, you can not grow a business, if the government does not invest greatly in education and services to allow the 47% to grow out of poverty. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did not even start “alone”, and in order to grow needed the talent of well educated minds hungry to succeed.
    You can’t export the poor, nor deport them. The only way is to provide them with the tools to succeed and climb up the latter. Remember George Romney was on welfare for many years before he got to American Motors.

  15. Obama was wrong actually about the ‘you didn’t built that’ comment. Private roads are built and maintained by their owners funded by tolls paid voluntarily by the people. Government builds and maintains roads via tax dollars paid (not voluntarily) by private citizens who mainly work in the private sector. Even those who work for the government get their salaries funded via some form of taxation of non-government employed (or business owning) citizens. Remember, matter can neither be created or destroyed – it also follows that government cannot create wealth. Pieces of paper aren’t wealth, they are representations of wealth and the more pieces of paper to wealth ratio you have, the less your dollars will be worth.

    So the fact is, we can solidly say to government ‘you didn’t build that!’

    It is sad that Obama, a majority of democrats, and minority of republicans (but thank God the vast minority of society) believe that our society would not exist without the government. In fact, and especially in America, it is the other way around. The government would not exist without the citizens. We are a nation formed by individuals who got together democratically, chose a republican form of government, separated ourselves from England, declared ourselves an independent nation, and have been going that way ever since.

    True things have not been perfect. With the emergence of socialism and communism in the 1800’s many in society (starting with many in the rich self-supposing elite class) began to thing there are some people who are just better than others, and it is the responsibility of those who are better to take care of those who are less than they are. But that wouldn’t sell to the supposed lesser, so they supposed greater had to package it to them by using envy, covetousness, and mal-framed injustice. Such that many in society now believe the more you have, the less right you have to what is yours.

    So America, in the interest of ‘the greater’ helping ‘the lesser’, there are 47% who do indeed pay some form of income tax, but because they are considered ‘lesser’ the ‘greater’ have decided to take money from other ‘greater’ people and give it to the ‘lesser.’ To the extent that 47% of people effectively pay zero income taxes.

    this is how we got to $16 billion in debt. It wasn’t wars, it wasn’t the military industrial complex, it has been ‘greater’ to ‘lesser’ wealth redistribution done at a rate that is higher than ‘the greater’ can provide.

    Of course, in America we know that ‘all men are created equal’ so this greater/lesser comparison is abomination to our national core. But still it is what it is.

    If you want to continue down this path, Obama is your guy. If not, go with Romney (he’s at least ‘less’ of a wealth redistributor)

    • josh—

      This election has been reduced again to voting for the “lesser of two evils” (but which one is the “lesser”?).
      ——————————————————-

      All indicators point that Rmoney is the CHOSEN ONE by the NY and London Banks (the International Banksters that control the Federal Reserve) and by Israel.

      Since their goals are directly opposite to the well-being of our Nation, by deduction this Bought-And-Paid-For-Mitt-Mutton-Puppet MUST NOT win!

      [[Should Rmoney win — expect the US to start an all out war against Iran to protect Israel from a possible single atomic bomb being developed in…10 years from now…? (certainly not to protect the US from such silly and nonthreatening remote eventuality) within a week of this creature taking office.

      What’s even more worrisome, is this Creature’s Control of the GOP (forcing a fraudulent “Aye” vote at the RNC convention), thus assuring It won’t be opposed to win a 2nd term!

      Eight years of Mutton-Mitt will mean a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE USA — when wars will be started at a drop of an Israeli Hat (sorry, meant to say: yamaka), when the US Constitution will become null-and-void, when the US Dollar will finally become utterly worthless, by a phone call from his Banker Masters (who’ll call in their chips).]]
      ———————————————————-

      On the other-hand — the BO Creature will have 4 more years to further plunge us into Socialism and suck us dry through more taxation and further devaluation of the US Dollar and the attempted destruction of our Constitutional Rights.

      This creature will, however, be hampered by some republican wins in both Houses, thus having most of its venomous teeth pulled during its 2nd term.

      [[However, should the BO see itself not as a clear winner, it will assure its reelection by attacking Iran with two weeks to go (mid-to-late October) — since a “patriotic” War always guarantees the “Commander-and-Chief” a sure win!]]
      ——————————————————

      Conclusion:

      Either subhuman will get us into never ending wars and ever closer to loss of All Liberty, All Prosperity and the eventual Total End of Our Nation as Free People!

      For which “lesser evil” will you vote, now?
      —————————————————-

      I, for one (and my family and friends) will not be party to such infamy! If either of these Horrible Creatures wins, at least we’ll have a clear conscience that we did not compromise our principles by acknowledging their existence in the voting booths!

      We will vote our Conscience — Writing In Dr. Ron Paul!

      A vote on principles is much better than a No Vote — and a trillion times better than voting for what one perceives as the “lesser of two evils”!

      Write in Ron Paul for 2012 President is online!

      Vote and spread it like wildfire!

      http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/about-us/

      • Voting for the lesser of two evils is not always a bad thing. It really depends on what those evils are. These are human beings, just like you, your family and your friends, and me. To devalue someone to non-human status (as you do by calling them a creature and subhuman) is exactly what the Nazi’s did to justify the Holocaust and what choicers do to justify infanticide. Your rhetoric is not persuasive, too much malice.

        My concern is that Romney will be too much of a centrist, and if the republican’s win Congress they’ll follow along like lemmings like they did when Bush was in office. The problem is that too many republicans believe the general public wants a lot of gov’t help and programs, but we really don’t. They think they can get elected if they’ll just implement a ‘conservative’ programs, when really the government can probably to best by doing nothing – we can take care of ourselves and our neighbors just fine. But he is definitely better than Obama, so I’m for him.

        Ron Paul – i don’t know about his foreign policy – blaming American government policies on 9/11 was ridiculous. He’s smart enough to know the muslim world hates America because they aren’t muslim and are very successful. Those in the terror groups, who draw their roots to the Ayatollah Khomeini / late 70’s iranian revolution, consider America to be the worse than Israel – calling israel the little satan and america the great satan.

        Plus the foreign aid he talks about, we shouldn’t shut it all off – after all look at what Iran is doing in the middle east. If they can build up allies by foreign aid, we can too. (history note – Iran changed their name in the 1930’s from Persia. They did it because they were down for the Nazi cause and Iran was the closest thing they could get to Aryan. They’ve been committed to Israel’s destruction for a long time and need to be taken seriously. RP apparently might take them seriously, but may not do anything about it)

        • by Ron Paul:

          The attack on the US consulate in Libya and the killing of the US Ambassador and several aides is another tragic example of how our interventionist foreign policy undermines our national security. The more the US tries to control the rest of the world, either by democracy promotion, aid to foreign governments, or by bombs, the more events spin out of control into chaos, unintended consequences, and blowback.

          Unfortunately, what we saw in Libya last week is nothing new.

          In 1980s Afghanistan, the US supported Islamic radicals in their efforts to expel the invading Soviet military. These radicals became what is known to be al-Qaeda, and our one-times allies turned on us most spectacularly on September 11, 2001.

          Iraq did not have a significant al-Qaeda presence before the 2003 US invasion, but our occupation of that country and attempt to remake it in our image caused a massive reaction that opened the door to al-Qaeda, leading to thousands of US soldiers dead, a country destroyed, and instability that shows no sign of diminishing.

          In Libya we worked with, among others, the rebel Libyan Fighting Group (LIFG) which included foreign elements of al-Qaeda. It has been pointed out that the al-Qaeda affiliated radicals we fought in Iraq were some of the same groups we worked with to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya. Last year in a television interview I predicted that the result of NATO’s bombing of Libya would likely be an increased al-Qaeda presence in the country. I said at the time that we may be delivering al-Qaeda another prize.

          Not long after NATO overthrew Gaddafi, the al-Qaeda flag was flown over the courthouse in Benghazi. Should we be surprised, then, that less than a year later there would be an attack on our consulate in Benghazi? We have been told for at least the past eleven years that these people are the enemy who seeks to do us harm.

          There is danger in the belief we can remake the world by bribing some countries and bombing others. But that is precisely what the interventionists – be they liberal or conservative – seem to believe. When the world does not conform to their image, they seem genuinely shocked. The secretary of state’s reaction to the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was one of confusion. “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction,” she asked.

          The problem is that we do not know and we cannot know enough about these societies we are seeking to remake. We never try to see through the eyes of those we seek to liberate. Libya is in utter chaos, the infrastructure has been bombed to rubble, the economy has ceased to exist, gangs and militias rule by brutal force, the government is seen as a completely illegitimate and powerless US puppet. How could anyone be shocked that the Libyans do not see our bombing their country as saving it from destruction?

          Currently, the US is actively supporting rebels in Syria that even our CIA tells us are affiliated with al-Qaeda. Many of these radical Islamist fighters in Syria were not long ago fighting in Libya. We must learn from these mistakes and immediately cease all support for the Syrian rebels, lest history once again repeat itself. We are literally backing the same people in Syria that we are fighting in Afghanistan and that have just killed our ambassador in Libya! We must finally abandon the interventionist impulse before it is too late.

          • That is why Ron Paul has been marginalized. The public is fed paranoia and xenophobia 24/7.

            “EVERYBODY is out to get us!!!”

            That’s how they justify putting our troops–and expensive equipment–into every country that doesn’t have the power to keep us out. If they can keep us out, we still try to SELL them the equipment.

            Except for profits for the few, war is not the answer.

  16. Why is the Romney campaign always trying to cover up and distract from the truth when they are the ones that the truth is coming from???? Romney said it!!!! He meant it!!!! He meant it just like it sounded!!!! In his world, THOSE PEOPLE and THEM are a reality!!! Those people happen to be me!!! I paid income taxes on unemployment even when it was not enough monthly to pay my rent!!!!!

    Where Are the 47% of Americans Who Pay No Income Taxes? So let’s set that speculation aside and look at who the people are who actually pay no income tax. Romney’s statements are a little unclear, but it appears that the 47 percent figure represents all of those who pay no income tax, rather than the Democratic base. His problem is that those people are disproportionately in red states — that is, states that tend to vote Republican:

  17. does he really feel this ,or is he trying to build a “connection” with these 50000 dollar a plate donors?, (tell them what they NEED to hear to keep them on the hook.
    That said he reenforces the prepie rich guy who is out of touch with the working class and probably 85%of everybody else
    While he enjoys the tax breaks the rich have lobbied to maintain and are afraid they will lose and have to pay 25 to 33 % like the rest of us

  18. Well, at long last, we have Romney’s latest tax return. I suspect we wouldn’t have seen it at all, except that he’s hoping to distract from the “47%/no peace” tape. Even so, he dumped it on a Friday night–which is when politicians drop something they hope will get lost.

    The reason it took so long is that they had to juggle the books. The original rate he was going to pay was LESS than 10%. So they went back to see what to give back–since he had promised that he would pay at least 13%. So he DIDN”T take part of his donation deduction.

    Remember when he said a man doesn’t deserve to be president if he doesn’t take every possible deduction?

    But to me, the question is–if they had to juggle the books to get Willard’s tax rate above a 10% this year–when he knew he had to release it, what rates DID he REALLY pay in the years he refuses to release?

  19. Write in Ron Paul for 2012 President is online!

    Vote and spread it like wildfire!

    http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/about-us/

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    A vote on principles is much better than a No Vote — and a trillion times better than voting for what one perceives as the “lesser of two evils”!

    My take:

    This election has been reduced again to voting for the “lesser of two evils” (but which one is the “lesser”?).
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    All indicators point that Rmoney is the CHOSEN ONE by the NY and London Banks (the International Banksters that control the Federal Reserve) and by Israel.

    Since their goals are directly opposite to the well-being of our Nation, by deduction this Bought-And-Paid-For-Mitt-Mutton-Puppet MUST NOT win!

    [[Should Rmoney win — expect the US to start an all out war against Iran to protect Israel from a possible single atomic bomb being developed in…10 years from now…? (certainly not to protect the US from such silly and nonthreatening remote eventuality) within a week of this creature taking office.

    What’s even more worrisome, is this Creature’s Control of the GOP (forcing a fraudulent “Aye” vote at the RNC convention), thus assuring It won’t be opposed to win a 2nd term!

    Eight years of Mutton-Mitt will mean a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE USA — when wars will be started at a drop of an Israeli Hat (sorry, meant to say: yamaka), when the US Constitution will become null-and-void, when the US Dollar will finally become utterly worthless, by a phone call from his Banker Masters (who’ll call in their chips).]]
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    On the other-hand — the BO Creature will have 4 more years to further plunge us into Socialism and suck us dry through more taxation and further devaluation of the US Dollar and the attempted destruction of our Constitutional Rights.

    This creature will, however, be hampered by some republican wins in both Houses, thus having most of its venomous teeth pulled during its 2nd term.

    [[However, should the BO see itself not as a clear winner, it will assure its reelection by attacking Iran with two weeks to go (mid-to-late October) — since a “patriotic” War always guarantees the “Commander-and-Chief” a sure win!]]
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    Conclusion:

    Either subhuman will get us into never ending wars and ever closer to loss of All Liberty, All Prosperity and the eventual Total End of Our Nation as Free People!

    For which “lesser evil” will you vote, now?
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    I, for one (and my family and friends) will not be party to such infamy! If either of these Horrible Creatures wins, at least we’ll have a clear conscience that we did not compromise our principles by acknowledging their existence in the voting booths!

    We will vote our Conscience — Writing In Dr. Ron Paul!

  20. There is no comparison between the two statements and I am surprised that the writer/this blog would pose such a question. This is an effort at biased deception in and of itself since I am sure there is a perception that many people do not read beyond the headline. Shame on you!
    Everyone knows that President Obama meant that no one, not even the super-rich right wing ideologues built it all themselves. We are all dependent on the government and the infrastructure that the government builds to support our lives. Romney, on the other hand, made a statement that is not only untrue and disrespects the millions of low and middle income working Americans who have a sizable portion of their earnings withheld regularly for federal, state and local taxes and medicare, but his statement was also malicious and condescending toward Americans in general. (Since he only shares what he really thinks with those who give him big bucks–not the general electorate because I guess the other folks don’t deserve that level of honesty and respect from him.) However what is even more interesting is the revelation about George Romney by his wife that he was on welfare after returning here from Mexico as a “refugee.” Of course Mitt never mentioned this until the tape of his mother saying it was publicized and then only for one day. He is masquerading as a person who was born into wealth and this is all he knows. Not as a person who is one generation from welfare himself. What a phoney!

    • George Romney WAS on welfare, and George Romney WAS on food stamps. Lenore Romney said THAT is how the Romney family survived–and how George was able to rise to head American Motors.

      Willard with the silver spoon conveniently “forgets” that.

  21. The way I see it, we all have the same opportunities in this great country and we should all be on the same footing with paying our fair share of taxes. It should not come down to the richest 1% of the country paying into a tax system where there are more dependents than those contributing. It’s time for Romney to counter all of these attacks about his taxes and the 1% comments with a goal to implement a fair tax, flat tax, or a national sales tax. Get rid of all of the state taxes and have one federal tax that funds the government and is split amongst the states.

    It is illogical to attack the wealthy people in this country when the true problem is the current tax base and how narrowly structured it is. This country was founded on wealth. Take that away and we have no economy for others to succeed through hard work and ambition!

  22. Not even close. Obama’s ‘You didn’t build that’ moment was MANUFACTURED by careful editing and taken out of context. Mitt’s 47% was straight form the horse’s mouth. Completely incomparable. Nice try though.

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