Mitt Romney walked away with two victories Tuesday night in distinctly different parts of the country winning in Arizona and Michigan. Rick Santorum held a strong 2nd place in Michigan but was trailing at a very distant 2nd in Arizona. Ron Paul took the number 3 spot in both states followed by Newt Gingrich rounding out the only remaining GOP candidates.

Results for Arizona Republican Primary (U.S. Presidential Primary)
Feb 28, 2012 (100% of precincts reporting)
Mitt Romney 216,805 47.3%
Rick Santorum 122,088 26.6%
Newt Gingrich 74,110 16.2%
Ron Paul 38,753 8.4%
Other 6,875 1.5%
Results for Michigan Republican Primary (U.S. Presidential Primary)
Feb 28, 2012 (>99% of precincts reporting)
Mitt Romney 410,517 41.1%
Rick Santorum 378,124 37.9%
Ron Paul 115,956 11.6%
Newt Gingrich 65,093 6.5%
Other 29,152 2.9%

Report from Fox News:

Mitt Romney pulled out a victory Tuesday night in his home state of Michigan, Fox News projects, fending off a stiff challenge from Rick Santorum which had once again revived questions about Romney’s ability to capture the hearts and minds of Republican voters.

Romney’s victory may not settle those questions, but it prevents a major embarrassment going into Super Tuesday on March 6, when 10 states hold primaries worth hundreds of delegates. The former Massachusetts governor also easily won the presidential primary contest in Arizona Tuesday night, a winner-take-all election that will help Romney build his growing delegate lead.

Unlike in Arizona, though, Romney will end up sharing Michigan’s 30 delegates with Santorum.

With 75 percent of precincts reporting in Michigan, Romney was leading with 41 percent, followed by Santorum with 37 percent. Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich were trailing far behind, though Fox News can project that Paul will take place third and Gingrich will place last in the state.

The Michigan primary, along with the primary in Arizona and an upcoming contest in Washington, are the final elections before 10 states weigh in with their bountiful supply of delegates in early March on what’s known as Super Tuesday.

The two-for-two performance from Romney helps him reaffirm his front-runner status going into the 10-state set.

We’ll update this post with the full vote totals for each state on Wednesday.

108 COMMENTS

  1. Romney spent TWICE as much as Santorum and just barely squeaked ahead–in his home state–after piling on the lies–one robocall would contradict the last, but Romney doesn’t care. “Win-at-any-price Romney.” Glad that’s over.

    • I don’t particularly care who wins the Republican race, I don’t think any of the candidates stand a particularly good chance of beating Obama. However, I don’t think that Romney beat Santorum in Michagan only because of money. Santorum looked quite bad in the last debate, and has looked like a religious zealot in tbe press recently. Romney, for all his faults, and there are quite a few, : adherence to a bizarre religion, having wealth to the point of being extremely detached fom the average person (‘wanna bet 10 thousand dollars’, his wife drives two Cadillacs)etc., is far more likely to attract anyone who would be normally undecided or even perhaps moderatly Democrat. I think Republicans are voting for Romney because he is the only one in their field who stands a chance (albeit a modest one) in the general election.

        • ABSOLUTELY! Glad you said that. I don’t understand why we are still not reading more about Ron Paul. Media STILL ignores him, and so do a lot of the general populous. Unbelievable.

          • MIDogman–That’s simply not true.

            When Paul called Santorum a “fake,” that was ALL over the media.

            In order to get media attention, you have to be concise and maybe a little outrageous.

            Paul wants to stand there and lecture. And if he doesn’t get that you have to feed the media “red meat,” maybe he doesn’t understand a lot of other things that are important.

            I’d love to see Paul win, but it’s not the media’s fault that he’s not giving them anything concise to broadcast.

          • It is the media’s fault, they has been trying to make people think that Ron Paul can’t win for a while. The worst part about it is people actually listen to them and then think that it was their own idea. Everyone needs to go look for their own information, stop blindly accepting what you hear from people who show up on your Tv screen. Look up video’s of Ron Paul speeking, and i’m not talking about look up some Fox or Cnn video, look up Ron Paul!

          • maybe media wants to create new president like Hitler/Bush that´s why they support such candidates as Romney or Santorum.
            Certainly that it is already known globally that Ron Paul is the only sane, normal, tolerant, peaceful candidate and he would be really the best president in USA.

          • That’s because he does the best among independents and cross-voting Democrats. These are the two most informed voter groups as the independents don’t trust either party while cross-voting Democrats look outside their own party for answers without unquestioningly swalling inbred party BS. You can’t win the general election with just the Republican vote.

            It may still be too early for Ron Paul. Most voters still get their “coverage” from the uesless mainstream media and don’t bother to research the candidates on their own. Perhaps by the time his son runs, the demographics will have shifted further to favour informed voters over brainwashed sheep.

          • Um, are you unaware of the hard work the Main Stream Media is doing to obey the one world government idiots and are you unaware of the control they have on “wording” RP out of the conversation?

          • But R. Paul would beat Obama, if he would have opportunity to win this republican nomination and naturally if he would have normal government. It would be really the best solution for USA and for the world.

        • Well, um, no.

          Let’s set aside Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.

          I’d say mainstream sects within Christianity–Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Adventists–are “different” or “unusual” or even “questionable.”

          But Mormonism is a sort of like Scientology. They believe in various Gods in various universes, ruling over people on various planets. Oh, and three different heavens. Stuff like that.

          Don’t get me wrong. I like imagining multiple universes and life on other planets. I just don’t wanna hafta believe it.

    • He only won by so small a margin because democrats were allowed to vote in Michigan’s primary, and the majority of them voted for Santorum; take our their votes and Romney won by more than 10 percent.

      • That’s propaganda. It’s true that Santorum asked Democrats and Independents to vote for him, but why not ask?

        I do not believe there were more than a handful of crossover votes. The ones who did bragged to the media, so you think there were more.

        The fact is that Romney won overwhelmingly in the heavily Democratic Detroit area–and lost in all of the predominantly Republican areas of the State. If there was any real crossover vote, it was Detroit Democrats voting for the flip-flopper.

        • Expected the Dem party to have a strategy that ensures success of Dems. Mr. Richie Rich has many doors they can open and slam his sticky fingers on. Maybe the Dems are supporting Mr. Richie Rich because he is the controllers new puppet (they do not care about party affiliation). I’m still mulling that O is now a tar baby for the controllers since Americans are still pushing to get O’s history out in the open and the only way the controllers can protect themselves from us following the bread crumbs, is to dump O at the last minute with the excuse O wants to return to Chicago and (the sure loser) Biden is taking his place in the election. Thinking then they would put O in as Mayor, with Rahm returning to DC as part of the control group over Mr. Richie Rich. Tell me… just what is this stuff of putting people in the Oval Office who know nothing about running the US government, who have no proven credentials like O or who have no proof of how they really got their money? How many Dems voted for Mr. Richie Rich… that is a big clue that there is some Agenda to move O around.

      • You also have to remember that democrats AND republicans vote in the general election. That, to me, spells out a much higher chance of Santorum pulling out on top against Obama.

    • Wonder how many of the so called votes Santorum got were from Democrats? Santorum is such a talker. He just doesn’t stop! He is alwayss backing up from statements he makes and then turns around and critizes others. RE Debate: Specter says he never made deal with Santorum so he would back him when he ran for Rep.

    • Mr. Richie Rich’s soul already belongs to Satan. He doesn’t believe Jesus is the Son of God and Saviour. Mr. Smith moved Jesus to some funny role as an “extra” in his script. How could anyone lock in their eternal soul with a kooky Mr. Smith as the Answer Man. Shades of Jim Jones, they all look like Stepford families in nice neat little Stepford communities. Just look at their neighborhoods on google earth. Robots… rich robots with a huge community $chest to use to push each other into high positions… like the House/Senate, now Presidency. They too have an agenda for their own purposes. Be careful about putting people in power who hate Jesus the Son of God. Be afraid, be very afraid, of asking God to bless this country ever again if you reject Christians as leaders. Sure we have had some really bad ones, but for sure, God has and will deal with them. We did our part and were betrayed. Not a good position for the betrayers. According to our Founding Documents, we are to ensure we have Christians in leadership… and you can see we are not getting the help from Heaven we used to get in the beginning of this country because we have been negligent in our duties. Slid downhill.

      • Hey Mr. “Constitution”. What does the first amendment say? It’s “Christians” like you that who through hateful bigotry ruin the reputation for the rest of us. Don’t spread your hate against another religion – ESPECIALLY in the name of our sacred Constitution!! Mittens has the right to believe his religion is true just like you and me have the right to believe ours is true. That’s what’s so great about this country! Jesus’s is a Gospel of love. It’s people like you that brand mainstream Christianity as judgmental and unaccepting. Your logic is truly dizzying, my friend. Sheer Madness!

      • I don’t get why you think Mitt Romney doesn’t believe in JESUS CHRIST. He is a true disciple of JESUS CHRIST. He is a memeber of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints. I am also a memeber and I can assure you JESUS CHRIST is the foundation of our religion. We talk of CHRIST, we rejoice in CHRIST, we preach of CHRIST, we prophesy of CHRIST, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins. I just think you have been grossly miss informed about the “Mormon Religion”( as the world calls it). Your comment tells me, that you aren’t a true discilpe of CHRIST. You stir up hatered and are a killer of peace. Remember the commandents CHRIST gave us. First, “Love God with all our hearts and Second, Love our Neighbors as thyself.” I would ask you to learn of Mitt Romney’s faith and understand what he truly believes. Let us all come unto Him who is the healer of us all and go forward in faith.

        • It is a sect and Romney is isolated sectarian and not Christian, he is anti life and he is Antichristian. It is just like jehova witnesses, they say that they are Christians too. No every sect is Christian.
          This guy is prowar monger, are you ready to give your lives in III world war? Saying yes for him can mean global world war.
          All these money for his stupid campaign are robbed from taxes of any people in the world, because he is backed by all possible speculators, who rob money from accounts of usual people just like rob nations from their taxes and Nobody wants such president in USA.
          This Sanctorum is like Hitler ( Hitler was ,,Catholic,, too )and it will be restoring of III Reich in your country if he would win.

          • Explain to me why you think its a sect. Have you attended a church service? Have you investigated for yourself? So you are saying I am not Christian? You haven’t a clue. May I suggest you find out for yourself by Reading the Book of Mormon and asking God with a sincere heart if it is true.

            • I think you’re confusing the meaning of the word “sect.” Roman Catholicism is a sect of Christianity.

              I think you’re thinking of the word, “cult.”

          • Cody, isn’t there a comedy play in NYC called The Book of Mormon? Cody, you can answer your question for us yourself… Please state what position Mr. Smith placed Jesus Christ in. Do you believe He is The Son of God, the one and only Saviour of Souls?

        • Cody, Cami, and others,

          Basing your discussion on a definition of “Christian” will not work, because you have differing definitions. But I will say that most Christians (those that I believe, based on observation of the fruit of their lives and the word of their testimony) would say that a “Christian” is one who acts like the “Christ”, or more accurately, since “christ” is a very generic Greek word, one who seeks to submits themselves to and attempts to imitate the unique person Yeshua bar Yosef, ha Meshiac. He told us that we would be known by our fruits, so become fruit inspectors.

          As to specifics of what the LDS teach, I do have some history with them (in fact, I still have my Elder’s name badge tucked away somewhere) but it’s a long story. It is likely that most people who associate with a particular belief group do not intimately know everything that the group officially professes. They should, but they don’t. For example, how many Catholic people do you know who understand that the pope is officially considered to be ruling on the earth in Christ’s stead, that is to say that Christ is ruling not physically but vicariously through the pope, who therefore has the right to supercede written scripture? Very few, I imagine. Shoot, I am positive that I don’t know absolutely everything that the pastor of my independent church espouses, although the closer we become the more we know of each other, of course. Below, I am reposting a section of another comment chain on this same web site a few weeks ago, on this same subject (things the LDS teach):
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          Neville
          January 26, 2012 at 10:44 pm · Reply
          To “Mormon and Proud”>
          That is only the tip of the iceberg. If you’ve been LDS for 30 years, then you know that: God is a physical being, not a spirit. God had a father. God was not always God. God is not the only God. We will (can) one day be Gods ourselves. Mary was not overcome by the Holy Spirit in order to conceive; she had physical sexual relations with God, and thus conceived Jesus. These are LDS teachings, easily documented and footnoted.

          Regardless of whether we “should” elect a non-Christian (which some claim would include Catholics), the fact is that @Constitution is correct in that the LDS Jesus is not the son of the one true God, YHWH of the Jewish/Christian scriptures.

          calling101
          January 26, 2012 at 11:14 pm
          Neville if you are Christian then you believe in the Bible. Does the Bible teach that we are children of God (see Acts 17:28-29)? If so, what happens to children when the (eventually) grow up? You can follow that logic through and see where it ends up.

          We don’t teach that Mary and God had ‘sexual’ relations. I’m sure you can find some obscure quote from somewhere and twist it to be what you want, but that’s not what the church teaches.

          Since when did you or other Christians gain the authority to decide who is and who isn’t Christian? Last I checked none of you believe in further revelation from God, therefore, how would you know who is and who isn’t Christian? Did God tell you or did your own logic figure it out? No two Christian denominations can even agree on the interpretation of the Bible.

          Mormon and Proud
          January 26, 2012 at 11:20 pm
          If you really want to know whether Mormon’s are Christian (and what we believe being Christian means) read this article: http://newsroom.lds.org/blog/are-mormons-christian

          Yes there are differences in what we believe about Christ (not all correctly explained by Neville), but we call believe in following Christ’s example and following His commandments.

          Neville
          January 27, 2012 at 12:07 am
          @calling101,

          I wrote:
          > Mary was not overcome by the Holy Spirit in order to conceive; she had physical sexual relations with God, and thus conceived Jesus.

          You wrote:
          “I’m sure you can find some obscure quote from somewhere and twist it to be what you want, but that’s not what the church teaches.”

          Well, I tried, but I couldn’t find any obscure quotes. I could only find these, and Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and Bruce McConkie don’t qualify [as obscure]:

          Apostle Bruce McConkie (1966):
          “Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers.”

          “The Father came down and begat him, the same as we do now…” (The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, vol. 1, p. 321; February 16, 1849, Salt Lake City)

          “Christ Not Begotten of Holy Ghost… Christ was begotten of God. He was not born without the aid of Man, and that Man was God!” (Doctrines of Salvation, Joseph Fielding Smith, 1954, 1:18)

          “The Father had a Son, a natural Son, his own literal Seed, the Offspring of his body.” (The Promised Messiah: The First Coming of Christ, p. 355)

          and, finally:
          “Only Begotten Son. Only Begotten in the flesh, meaning in mortality. This designation of our Lord signifies that he was begotten by Man of Holiness as literally as any mortal father begets a son. The natural processes of procreation were involved; Jesus was begotten by his Father as literally as he was conceived by his mother.” (Doctrinal New Testament Commentary 1:144)

          • Thanks Neville. You have just proven why Christians cannot elect a Mormon as President of this country. Mormonism is from Mr. Smith, who is not God, and Christianity is from Christ, and is named after Christ who is The Son of God and Saviour. We have founded our country on Christian principles, not on Mr. Smith’s principles. Your “Doctrine” even denies the virginal birth of Christ as your doctrine claims Mary had physical sexual relations with a physical God… who had sperm to impregnate the Virgin Mary. The Christian Bible states that the conception was a miracle and was virginal. God the Father did not physically inseminate Mary. Take some Christian classes on the Bible and find the truth. You owe it to yourself to make the effort and you won’t regret it. There are differing views on some Scriptures by Christians that resulted in the organizing of various Christian churches. However, they all believe the same basics that cause them to be identified as Christians. For example, to be called a Christian, you must believe in certain things, like the virginal conception by Mary, the virginal birth of Jesus and other basic beliefs that entitle a person to be called a Christian. Mormonism does not accept those basics.

            Sincerely hope you get into a Christian bible study group and find the truth. Ask yourself if you feel you would be condemned by Mormons for doing this, and if you do feel that, then run as fast as you can to a Christian group and free yourself from those who have that power to frighten you from investigating… it’s your soul that matters. We are 3 part beings… physical body, spirit, and soul. We are only housed in our bodies for a while, then our spirit and soul lives on.

          • @Constitution,

            Uh, I think you have a serious problem with reading comprehension. Are you seriously saying that you think I am a Mormon??? Did you even read what I posted?

          • You all have been extremely deceived. Joseph Smith is a prophet of God, just like Moses, Abraham, Issac, Enoch, etc. Jesus Christ is the Head of the LDS Church. It is his Church, the name of the church is “The Church of JESUS CHRIST of the Latter-Day Saints”. God has a body and spirit, which together is a soul. Yes, we are God’s spirit children and thus being so have the potential to be like him. The LDS Faith doesn’t teach that God had sex with Mary. That is completely false. Neville, your references only suggest that Mary was conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost. In fact look up Alma Chapter 7:10 in the Book of Mormon. Through my understand, the LDS faith believes that through the power of the Holy Ghost God’s seed was planted within Mary, thus Jesus Christ is literally the Son of God. Nowhere has it been taught that God and Mary had sexual relationships.
            Mr. Behr,
            I thought that I would help you understand the definiton of a Cult and Sect.
            Accordingly to the Dictionary,
            Cult: a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
            2.an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
            3.the object of such devotion.
            4.a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
            5.Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

            Sect: 1. a body of persons adhering to a particular religious faith; a religious denomination.
            2. a group regarded as heretical or as deviating from a generally accepted religious tradition.
            3. (in the sociology of religion) a Christian denomination characterized by insistence on strict qualifications for membership, as distinguished from the more inclusive groups called churches.
            4. any group, party, or faction united by a specific doctrine or under a doctrinal leader.

            Pretty much the same thing.

            Let’s face it, you all do not have a clue what the LDS Faith Believes.
            I would strongly suggest that you read the Book of Mormon and the Holy Bible and compare them side by side. You will see that both books teach of Christ and testify of Christ. Didn’t the Savior, say “that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. “ (Matthew 18:16) The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus Christ. Again, Jesus Christ is the center of all the LDS Faith teaching. He is the light, the truth, and the only way back to the Father. Yes, Our Heavenly Father!
            Joseph Smith was called by God to restore the Gospel of Jesus Christ, back to the Earth. He is not our Savior.

          • @Cody,

            Among others, I quoted McConkie and the Doctinal New Testament Commentary, saying that Christ was begotten “in the same way as mortal men” and that “the natural processes of procreation were involved”. I have 6 children, and I think I know what those natural processes are. What is your definition? The fact is that this has been a controversy inside and outside the LDS church for generations.

            I am also curious how LDS teaching deals with the opening of the fourth gospel. I have never read any of their writings on it, so I have to ask you. It seems to me that if (A) God was once a man, who later became God, when then fathered Jesus, that it would be impossible (B) for God to have been present at the beginning of time, and for the Word of God (who became flesh and dwelt on earth as Jesus the Christ) to have also been present in the beginning of time, and to have also been God. I just don’t see how both (A) and (B) could be true. Would you explain your understanding?

  2. Why is it that only Romney has difficulty capturing the heart of Republicans? Why isn’t the same said for Santorum, who has fewer delegates and fewer popular votes? Why isn’t the same said for Ron Paul, or for Gingrich? Seems obvious that Romney has won more Republican hearts than any of the other 3. In some contests, it took 2 others to equal his. And in AZ, he beat out all 3 combined.

    Just seems so illogical to me to state that the frontrunner has difficulty winning the hearts of Republicans. But I guess it’s another new math!

    • You hit it. “Do the math.” Look at AZ. I know for fact there was a huge influx of high level execs retired there in gated communities who bought big condos and homes who love money and don’t give a crap about religious beliefs. They vote for their own as usual. Corporate types, money people. They vote for Mr. Richie Rich who talks their language and it ain’t religious beliefs. Sure, those corporations sat in pews to hold their community placements for years, but it wasn’t for anything except show and another form of power for them. Thus, they vote for their own kind. They have taken over Arizona… look at the guy running for Senate from AZ to replace the female who was shot… Flack? or something like that. On Washington Journal yesterday. He grins and supports Mr. Richie Rich all the way. He wants the money too. Betcha he wins, because of the money lovers dug in there. They do want their own kind. I hate to see Arizona destroy its history, its American clarity and spirit. As a blood relative of Arizona’s “most famous” pioneer who built a business supplying meat to the military… who defended his ranch and business and had EARNED high respect from other pioneers and builders, a man who fought in the horse riding military from Kentucky up to Oregon then down the coast on horseback to Tucson, Tumacacori, and was a real builder of America, a brave man who would sob seeing that we have allowed this country and his Arizona to become trash. Chicken crap. No principles or pride in anything except $ and gated communities… and lots of Hummers and Housekeepers. What the H has happened to us. We are giving it all away, and if Mr. Richie Rich gets in none of us will have the RIGHT to ask Jesus Christ for anything because we tramped over Him.

      • I and my friends are from AZ and we are not rich and we voted for Romney and proud of it! About your relative – will, my family had Spanish land grants in AZ and N.M. We were here way before your relative. So? Am sure you will find something wrong with that also. How sad are you!I don’t usually like to get into these discussions, as they get us nowhere. It’s just that I am tired of reading all this garbage during elections. Nobody in America shoud have to defend or explain there religion to anyone. If you don’t like Romney because he is Morman or rich, just don’t vote for him.

        • Carmen, we have a Constitution that guarantees us Freedom of Speech. That has a purpose. Communication is a strength among people and rights and strengthens and protects countries. We have that right in our Constitution to keep us strong. You cannot speak freely in other countries, can you. As for your family being here before mine, so what. Look at what “my” family has done to build a free and most wonderful country ever on this planet. Perhaps you disagree. How has your family helped to build this country since you claim your family was here before mine. If you are an American you would share in praise of anyone who helped build this country and had the honor, integrity and character to contribute. My view is the opposite of your thinking that no one should have to defend or explain their religion to anyone. Freedom demands conversations by citizens about everything. Secrecy is not good. People who love Freedom and breathe that air are happy, not sad. It is a privilege and a show of appreciation to our Founders and Patriots to encourage conversations. Speak up, freely, you can do that here… and others have the right and freedom to speak their opposition or agreement in verbal or internet conversations.

    • The math is the millions of dollars Romney spends on negative ads. He spent twice as much as Santorum and I was inundated by Romney phone calls–some of which directly contradicted the last one.

      Elections can be bought. That’s the math.

  3. To me, Santorum comes off as mean, angry, self-righteous, and immature. Obama will make a fool of him if Santorum debates him next fall. He looks like Ray Bolger (Scarecrow in “Wizard of Oz”) with a squirrelly Martin Short smile. He keeps going at repeating the lies that Romney has repeatedly had to keep explaining as if Santorum has no collective memory whatsoever. Or else Santorum is banking on the audience having no collective memory and having the same low IQ that the Obama supporters have. He’s not the one. He lost his last senate race, why do you think he could be elected nationally?

    Mitt Romney has been unfairly portrayed by the pundits–except for Ann Coulter. He can see the big picture. He knows what’s what. I’ve seen him speak in person many times. And he doesn’t need a teleprompter–unlike what Rick Santorum claims. Santorum sure is taking a lot of desperate cheap shots.

  4. Do I dare write that the reason why the Republican establishment and the Tea Partiers and pundits don’t like Romney is because they are closet religious bigots? I think that it’s true in at least some cases.

  5. @Marlene – “But I guess it’s another new math!”

    Would that be the same new math yielded “And in AZ, he beat out all 3 combined” (hmm, with just 47%, that’s definitely some new math right there).

    You do have a point, but I just couldn’t resist …

  6. YES! Rodmney WON BOTH AZ AND MI! One of these days they will have to give him the credit he deserves. I wonder why they didn’t show the percentage of Democrat votes Santorum got? They would have if it had been Romney campaigning for them.

    • Romney is an attack puppy. Did the same thing in 2008. We could of had a better chance then to beat Obama.

      The first 5 or 6 debates I actually thought he had found wisdom since he wasn’t attacking.

      Then when the others pretty much are forced to attack back, they are suddenly the unreasonable one.

      The one I don’t get is McCain. Next to Huckabee he received a lot of the Romney attack puppy stuff last time and yet is supporting him this time. Go figure.

      • Romney has no programm, it is isolated sectarian, who has only bon-bon face, ( it is probably querr ), who is additionally pro-war monger and speculator. This guy has ruined a few companies in USA to draw profits for himself, he wants to bomb and atack Iran, he wants to continue all possible wars and he will send US troops even to global world war. What a mainstream does this man represent? Mainstream of brainless morons? This second Santorum is prowar monger and he is something alike like Hitler the II. Do you think that such candidates are good future for USA?
        Ron Paul is the only one, who is sane, normal, decent, honest and represent values of main mainstream and he as the only has chance to win with Obama, because he is better.
        And he is the only chance for this republican party.

  7. @Marlene – not sure about the math but as the ridiculously raven haired Mr Krauthammer pointed out on Fox’s election coverage ‘the fact that in the stae of his origin and the fact of his father having been govenor’ that he can only squeak a win against Santorum (who nobody in their right mind thinks could hold a candle to Obama come November) is evidence enough that the good folk of Michigan are less than enthusiastic about the choices they were presented. I predict the result makes it more likely that the discussion on a 5th candidate will have had (very expensive) gas poured on it and that this is now more likely than not.
    I’d also be interested to know if the Santorum robo-call actually back fired and cost him votes which might have made it even closer?

    • @Tom from Oz. Could be right about another candidate riding in on a white horse with pistols blazing. However, likely will be another Party setting up camp in the USA that will out grow and overpower both the Money Party and the Communist Party. We’ve suffered enough with both doofus elites and we WILL have a real American party. Keep pushing, lovers of Mr. Richie Rich and pray to Mr. Smith to roll the votes in for your Suit. Maybe you can buy his way all to the final showdown. At that time Americans will stand up and either overwhelm the systems with the American Patriot Ron Paul, or create the power of the real American party. We will not allow this country to be sucked up by the money lover vacuum or the Communists. There will be big battles and those guys will be merely markers on our American Road to Victory again, please, Lord Jesus Christ.

  8. How can anyone call themselves conservative and vote for Romney?! He has advocated the same position as Obama on just about every issue – pro Gov’t controlled health care, anti-gun,and the list go’s on. I didn’t realaize just how many uninformed and misinformated voters there are.

    • I agree. Mr. Richie Rich is no conservative. He proudly proclaims his wealth and that he wants to help “poor people” – wish some smart questioner would ask him what he has done so far to help “poor people” besides giving money to Mormon projects. And, ask him… we’re glad you are rich, that is a pleasant position for Americans when earned, but who can you name that you brought along and made them rich too, besides other Mormons? Johnny your realization about the level of citizens’ knowledge is accurate. Painful to witness the depth of success that the Dumbing Down of America has been and continues to be. Begging my countrymen to grab their bootstraps and think for themselves and see like you have, Johnny, what lemmings were those who voted for O, and took our country to the edge of the cliff that O will push us over if he gets a second term. It was difficult to get information on that liar during his low key campaign for the Senate in Illinois, he ran on being black and worked his speech to sound more Chicago Black. He used youth from Judge Abner Mikva’s youth group on the southside to work for his election in both the Senate and Presidential campaigns. Not long thereafter they realized that he was ignoring his promises to them, had used and betrayed them. They got his attention by showing him they had learned how to “organize” and humiliated him as President when he confidently flew with Mrs. O to Canada for a meeting with the Olympic Committee, intending to convince them to hold the Olympics in Chicago. Southsiders saw their opportunity, and brought crime and rioting to the Streeterville and Gold Coast areas and caused the Olympic Committee to reject Chicago as a dangerous location for their Event. You can bet President Zero was furious and concerned about their anger. He grabbed their guns by Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s move to replace the Police Chief with a new guy who stomped across the platforms of the Southsiders’ churches convincing them to turn in their guns for some quick cash and blamed “whitey” for enabling their youth to have guns and thus use them in commission of crimes and be sentenced to prison terms. It’s terrifying to witness the murder of Freedom and rights simply because of the stupidity of the “masses” as the commies call people… the commies do not even permit a humanizing term for citizens and certainly not for for individuals. If people smarten up and realize that Ron Paul represents everything we need to get our freedom back, to repair our society that is destroying all our youth, not just black kids, to chase the commies out of our government, out of our schools and universities, and to stand for President Eisenhower’s warning to us to Beware The Military-Industrial Complex. Please, there aren’t a lot of us and we ask everyone to join us to save our country and take back the power of We The People by electing a real, honest, reliable American, Ron Paul.

  9. Any vote not for Dr. Paul its for Obama … Anyway, Obama is better than Mitt “Mormon” Also Obama is better than Rick “Santmarry” :

    Ron Paul you are too good to be our leader we dont deserve you.. 🙁

    US Get ready to fail like Russia or maybe worse

    • It will be worse. If such morons as Romney or Santorum will be your president, it will be really bitter fall.
      Ron Paul is really the best candidate.
      1 limited government
      2 end of wars, bringing troops home
      3 changes in foreign politics
      4 changes in domestic politics for instance low taxes for middle class
      5 he is pragmatical, intelligent, sane
      6 to abolish for instance cia, to repeal many bad acts like ndaa, patriot acts.
      He is really optimal candidate to be president.Nice, tolerant, peaceful, religion like religions of so called mainstream, family with normal children, faithful husband.
      What is the problem?
      Do US people live in regime? Do they need no normality, freedom, democracy, prosperity, peace?

    • Keep the DOJ busy. Remove O’s Holder. You can bet the stupes will again pat The New Black Panthers that the controllers have on a leash, and enable their positions at vulnerable Polling place doors. Union members are rustling around below the radar in opposition to their controllers and will stand to defend freedom, our voting and other rights and will surprise the thugs, making them realize they need to run out of town fast.

  10. Remember what happened to the German people when they fell asleep at the wheel?

    Wake up America… Ron Paul 2012

    • They already had no control of their wheel and when promised their wheel would be returned to them, they went for it, held their noses and jumped in. Hoping we can get our wheel back without all that trouble. It would be best for all, nevertheless, we will fight for our wheel if it continues to be held captive.

  11. America has spoken, they wish to sell out, there are no conservatives left. We are finished. Good luck to all you socialists, now you will get just what you deserve from your corrupt government.

  12. I wish Santorum had dropped out awhile back, I’d prefer Newt, but will be happy enough with Romney. The only outcome I will be upset with is if somehow Santorum pulls it out. Santorum focuses on all the wrong areas. The fight against Gay Marriage and Abortion are the very last things we need to be worrying about as a country right now. The US is in danger of being pulled into Socialism, I’m all for family values, but this is not a typical election, someone needs to save the country from being sold out from under us, not push moral agenda’s.

  13. We are done. When our own side votes fot Mittens because “he’s more electable” than Santorum (not even true) and refuses to fight for what logically is consistent due to fear of loss, buying into Rove and the media lines over trying to “appeal to the middle” and votes for someone they cannot possibly believe is conservative, whom they do not like, simply out of misplaced and counterproductive fear we are done.

    When they elect a person that fathered Obamacare, who is a liberal in every way except having an R next tho his name. We are done. They could have had Santorum, but wimped out and allowed Obama and liberal socialists to WIN BY DEFAULT.

    Thanks, MI and AZ.

    Wow. Fools…

    • Cheer up. It ain’t over till the fat lady sings. Know your enemy. The inside workers aren’t socialists, the socialists are having a hard enough time getting their cow out of the ditch in their own countries all around the globe. Our enemy is Communism, and the commies are running rampant in our government, schools, medicine and every other agency. Richie Rich refuses to be a Christian. Now, that’s fine, let him go off and do his stuff, but don’t let him head up this country as if he has a brain. He has backers and Agenda planners, but the guy is goofy… he doesn’t have the ability to understand truth. Ron Paul is brilliant, is the closest to the Spirit of America, and to the character and determination of our brave Founding Fathers. Don’t miss it, we have a real chance to get our country back.

  14. It’s the delegate count that wins the nomination. All of the media has been falsely reporting the delegate counts. Ron Paul is always at or near the bottom of the list when in fact he has the second most delegates(slightly behind Romney) Ron Paul is ahead of every candidate expect Romney. A fact that a CNN anchor admitted Last night when interviews Ron Paul.
    The establishment media exists to engineer both social and political issues. You are not watching “news”. You are watching a script.

    Most of the caucuses and primaries thus far have been a fraud. If the will of the people were allowed to be expressed Ron Paul would be coming in first in many of these contests. Notice I did not say winning. Ron Paul is already winning the delegate battle which is the only battle that counts.

    • Once again a Ron Paul supporter is living in another world. How can you say with a straight face that Paul has more delegates than Santorum and Gingrich? Last time I checked Paul is last in the delegate count with a mere 19, while Gingrich has 32, Santorum 83, and Romney 163. I thought you Paulniacs abhorred the new fuzzy math of the socialist-progressives?

      • @SailAway,

        I’ll answer for Donny, even though I didn’t ask his permission. Based on boots-on-the-ground reports from precinct caucuses in Iowa, Minnesota, Maine, Colorado, and Nevada, Paul fared even better (in some cases, far better) in the delegate-selection votes than in the straw-poll votes. Colorado and Maine, in particular, look like landslides, and even in Iowa and Nevada he appears to have garnered the majority of the precinct delegates.

        So what matters is the way the precinct/county/district delegates go about selecting the national delegates. In some states, they have a fairly direct vote for them, while in other states the GOP staff have a greater hand in choosing which of those delegates advance or not. Then there are the super-delegates, e.g. governors, state party chairs, etc. who are not subject to approval by any voters or delegates.

        Therefore, while it is not true that having 80% of a state’s precinct delegates means you will get 80% or even 100% of that state’s national delegates, it does generally mean that you will get a whole bunch of them. And this is where Paul stands right now. It is highly unlikely that, in the dozen states that have voted so far, he will get more delegates than Romney, he could be close, and is almost certainly well ahead of Santorum and Gingrich.

        In Nevada, which this year for the first time instituted early binding of delegates, that may end up not mattering one bit, unless the Tampa convention floor vote fails on the first ballot. At that point, the Nevada delegation would be free to vote however they wanted.

        Wyoming is another case where Paul may end up with more delegates than the media are reporting, but Wyoming’s delegate-selection process is in 3 parts (plus the straw poll), and they’ve only had one of those so far.

        Few of the big national media outlets seem to fully understand how all this works, or to appreciate the complexities and nuances of the process, yet they go on merrily reporting their projected numbers to a public that not only doesn’t fully understand but largely doesn’t know the first thing about it. If you want to really understand the detailed mechanics on a state-by-state basis, one of the best and maybe the very best source is: http://frontloading.blogspot.com/ (not my blog, just a very good resource)

    • But obviously, money can buy elections.

      NOBODY “trusts” Romney.

      They just don’t think a true conservative can win.

      • The problem is that the Republican establishment lived for decades as the party out of power and fearing the media. They actually believe the democrat/media narrative that conservatives cannot win even though the two most recent “moderates” the GOP ran both lost, namely Dole in 1996 and McCain in 2008. Reagan, the solid conservative (who by the way was not afraid of the so-called social issues) won two elections, and even George W. Bush who was more conservative than Dole and McCain also won two elections. The question is will those who believe in conservative values allow themselves to buy into this narrative and nominate Romney on this notion that he alone can deliver the so-called independent voter. Let’s not forget that the so-called cross-over democrats largely did not exist until Reagan, hence the more common name for them, “Reagan Democrats”. Reagan had it right when he explained that he did not leave the Democrat Party, rather the Democrat Party left him. Read the book, “A National Party No More”, by former Democrat Senator from Georgia, Zell Miller, who delivered the Key-note speech for George W. Bush at the RNC convention in 2004. Perhaps then you will understand how the Democrat Party has been hijacked by the extreme left.

  15. You folks don’t seem to understand we are already living under a partially socialist government now and have for a long time1 who is going to give up their soc. sec. check their Medicare etc…. who told you that Socialism is the Boogy Man??

    • Id give up mine… Its not like when I get old enough to draw from it that Im going to have anything left after the government gets finished spending it all.

    • The so-called President who tossed us the tar baby medicare/caid/etc. enabled politicians thereafter to smash us by stealing our funds – funds that we contribute all of our lives to those agencies, like a savings account that earns dividends… and enabled those politicians to frighten older citizens with threats of having to close those agencies or they have to raise taxes to replace the funds those politicians stole from us. That isn’t socialism. The results of the politicians threatening older citizens and demanding more money from everyone, is Communism.

      What countries do you believe are better than the USA and have Socialism or Communism as their governments?

  16. Ron Paul had about 25% according to the exit polls and finishes with 8? Something’s rotten in Arizona, and I think it’s more than just Jan Brewer selling out to Romney.

    • Brewer’s sell out to Mr. Richie Rich proves two things. She has been advised by the GOP that Rich Richie is their boy, and secondly, she wants another turn at being Governor. Here’s the clincher. She is supposedly pro-Borders, and tells us that she is doing everything she can to prevent illegals from entering AZ. Make her PROVE it. Demand that since she has stated that she is supporting Mr. Richie Rich, what has she been told by him or the GOP officials that convinces her that Richie will close the borders, will stop the Invasion of Foreigners into AZ. There’s your sure fire way to back her up against the wall. If she says she is just confident he will do that, then she’s O. U. T.; if she says he promised her to do that, tell her to state what he said and when and where or she is O.U.T.; if she says his Staff or the GOP rep told her, demand she identify that person and demand that she publicly ask Richie for his promise to do that or she is O.U.T.; tell her to state WHEN he would actively keep his promise, or she is O.U.T. Ask her what Richie has promised in his campaign that convinced her to support him… if it is not in regard to stopping Invasion of Arizona which is her primary job as Governor, then she is O.U.T.; ask her if she has promised the Republican candidate Flack(?) who is running for the vacated Senate seat of the Dem who was shot, to support Richie and support Flack who announced support of Richie on Washington Journal this week, in his run for the Senate. i.e., looks like she was dumb enough to speak out in support of Richie Rich and has thereby ended her career…

    • You think the exit polls are fishy? Look at the polls taken BEFORE the voting. They showed RP to win by a landslide. This election is f***** and done, along with the country. I lost all hope that there was ANY legitimacy to the election process here in America with this “loss.” Nevada, Iowa, possibly South Carolina, and now Arizona. I think the media did a good enough job fooling people in the other states, but these ones… especially Nevada…

  17. I really enjoy healthy political debates and I too have my opinions (ron paul) what I am baffled by is the etch-a-sketch mentality people have developed when it comes to seperation of church and state. Religion is what you use to get by in your personal day to day. It has nothing to do with ones qualifications to hold political office.

    • Did you get that message from The Son of God or Mr. Smith? You sound like a Mormon. To a Christian, we understand that our Founders based the foundation of our Republic on Christian principles, and did a lot of praying for a free people with the best government ever. Those guys were not stupid, they asked for God’s guidance, help and blessing in establishing this government. If you have God in a box for your personal day to day “needs” then you do not understand what God wants of you and what he gave you with this government. You are missing the entire point of our unique government and the Spirit of America. If you consider God a tool for your use, man you are missing a lot.

      • I think you need to read more about the Founding Fathers (and not from high school textbook propaganda). The Founding Fathers were primarily Deists, who believed that if there was a God, he wound up the world and let it go. It’s up to us to make the world work. That may not be true, but THAT is what most of them believed.

        I heard this interesting tidbit while watching the 700 CLUB a few years ago:

        At the time of the revolution, only NINE (9) percent of citizens belonged to ANY church. That came directly from the lips of Pat Robertson.

        • Goethe, there weren’t many churches in those days. People were busy building homes, roads, schools, clearing fields for crops. Church buildings were important to them but they were practical regarding constructions for protection, comfort, urgent needs and held “Church” services in homes until church buildings were constructed. However, they were believers in the Father Son & Holy Ghost, and prayed many times a day, asked blessings on their food and said prayers of thanks, read their Christian Bible… many times the only book they possessed. Children were taught in school from and to read the Christian Bible. Yes, I’ve read the comments of historians claiming some Founders were Deists, but in reading the writings of the strongest fighters for our Freedom, they were Christians. It doesn’t make one a Deist to believe that God set the world in motion and let us have a lot of responsibility in making it operate right. Weigh the sources of the Deist pushers vs the Founders’ Documents. Also, did the Deists die Deists or did they convert to Christianity…

          • “Belonging to a church” doesn’t mean going into a building. It means believing in a faith system. It was clear from the context that Pat Robertson was saying that only 9% (nine percent) of people in revolutionary days practiced a specific faith.

            And, no, actually, it DOES make one a “Deist,” by definition, if one believes that God does not meddle in human affairs. Deists were NOT atheists (which is also a faith system), but they were pretty close to what we would call “agnostics.” As you say, they were too busy trying to survive to worry about theology.

            When the Founding Fathers used the word “God” they used it to mean the natural order of things–in the same way we use the term “Mother Nature.” We do not believe there is a female goddess who controls the weather, et al, but we use the term as a way to anthropomorphize the concept of natural order.

          • Secular humanists and progressives love to perpetuate the myth that “most of the founders” were “deists”. Actually, they had many and varied philosophical beliefs, only one or two were professed deists. One of the founders the progressives most like to present as being “secular like me” is Thomas Jefferson, yet it was Jefferson who while in Government in the State of Virginia ordered that the “chief textbook for public education be The Bible”, oh and that would be the Christian Bible, not The Book of Mormon, or some other bible. And George Washington said this form of government would only work so long as it was governing “a moral people”.

            So much for trashing Santorum for standing up for moral principles. I believe the founders would praise Santorum for trying to bring the nation back to its roots. He understands, as did the founders, that democracy, even a constitutional republic such as the USA cannot long stand if the people lose their way morally. Think about the immorality of believing you have a government protected and facilitated right the fruits of another person’s labors while you do nothing to earn it?

            There are many in this nation who believe society owes them something for nothing and they vote for people like Obama. This nation as a whole has lost its way. Taking a look at itself in a moral mirror would do it a lot of good. If politicians won’t hold up that mirror, who will? Hollywood elites? Academic elites? Corporate elites? Church leaders who are too busy hiding their own scandals? Who?

            Being a leader carries with it a responsibility to hold us collectively to a higher standard. It is a community standard that helps support all of us as individuals to hold ourselves to a higher standard. It is called setting an example, espousing that example, and exhorting others to follow that example. We can be so much better as a community than the sum of the individuals when we have such leadership.

            At least Rick Santorum stands for something. Those who will stand for nothing will fall for anything. How do you think Obama got elected in the first place?

            Just something to think about.

            • @Sailaway – Question – Do you HAVE to be a Christian to be a ‘moral’ person?
              On ‘living on the fruits of labor of someone else’ I think most sensible hard working people hold a justified distain for lazy people but in ‘a society’ there are those less fortunate, unable or inhibited by disability to do ‘their bit’. What should become of them in a Darwin’ist world? I think your suggestion that anybody voting for Obama because they want something for nothing is more than a bit offensive and to come back to your point on morality, is not compassion and understanding a moral virtue?

  18. Ron Paul WILL become President in 2012 — IF, Romney becomes a Patriot, and forgoes his ego, for the Good of the People!

    Mitt Romney could become one of the greatest Statesmen in US History! He’d be the Savior of our Nation — the one that generations to come would tell their children: “Look at this statue, this is Mitt Romney, he saved America”!

    Or, he can reduce himself to just a tiny footnote…what is amazing is that his fate rests in his own hands (a very rare occurrence throughout the history of the world)!

    All Romney has to do, is to take advantage of this rarest of historical moments, and make a SINGLE DECISION!!!

    Withdraw his candidacy IN FAVOR of Ron Paul, with the following grandiose and heart-wrenching patriotic speech (to save his political skin):

    “I, Mitt Romney, will sacrifice my political goals for the Good of the People. Now I understand that only Ron Paul can save our Nation. I agree with all he stands for, therefore, I have deemed that our Nation’s salvation can only be accomplished when Ron Paul is elected as President of the United States of America. Without regret, but with joy, I do the most honorable and patriotic deed I can — I withdraw myself from this election, and give my full support to Ron Paul!”

    One honest person is needed to bring these logical conclusions to Romney’s PERSONAL ATTENTION (not the myopic sycophants surrounding him and stroking his ego by chanting wishful thinking as ‘fact’: “You gonna win Boss, you gonna win Boss….).

    Regardless how egotistical, arrogant and narcissistic Romney may be, some semblance of reasoning of what’s best for him, should still remain in his skull. The instinct for self preservation dictates that even the smallest of minds will chose the path that leads to safety, not the one leading to disaster.

    An honest realist needs to talk to Romney one-on-one — and explain the following to him, so Mitt can comprehend it:

    1) If you don’t win the nomination, than your political career is over (you’ll become just a tiny footnote in US History as a failure).

    2) If you win the nomination, and don’t defeat Obama — which is the most probable outcome (you’ll become just a tiny footnote in US History as an even LARGER failure).

    Therefore, Dear Mitt, whichever gamble you take from the above, may lead to total disaster for your political career (and probably will)!

    However, here is an action you can take, Dear Mitt, that guarantees you’ll become immortalized in the annals of US History — becoming the 21st Century Savior of America (surely this carrot of success will entice Romney’s egotism to go for it — over the probable political beatings he’d receive otherwise)!

    All one needs to do, to assure Mitt’s Historical Greatness of Sacrifice for the Good of the Nation, is to present the above to Romney’s eyes alone! I urge all able to do so, to place this document in front of him!

    Send this to Mitt Romney — as an Open Letter, e-mails, etc. — the more you send, the greater the chance he’ll get to read it!

    • Romney will be savior of the same kind as Hitler was savor in Germany. Did he save somebody? He has murdered about 50 mln people and ruined the whole world.
      No jokes anymore by these elections.
      President office is very important function. Romney is not proper for this office. He is isolated sectarian ( sorry but nobody elects sectarians to be president ), backed by all possible speculators and pro-war monger, hypocrite, lier. What do you intend to do if you elect such president as Bush or Hitler. Do you intend to throw with eggs or make pooh in the middle of the street to protest? It will not work. It will be financial ruin and it can be that it will even III world war, which will ruin your country completely when you elect this man as your president. Romney is very bad. The same thing is Santorum. By the way. Romney is not Mitt, his name is Willard, if somebody candidates for president then such person should use normal, real name instead of nickname.
      The only thing can work and can save your country and the world. This only thing is normal president and normal government and the only canidatee, who is normal, sane, intelligent, wise, experienced in politics, peaceful, nice, tolerant is Ron Paul. He wants to boost economy, he wants to do from USA strong country and he wants to make from US nation rich nation.

  19. Mitt is by far the best candidate when put under the microscope. He’s the best organizer and leader and I think his life is a good example of that. If Santorum wins it it will be another 4 years of Obama like leadership (aka bad leadership) but with a Republican candidate. I think very little will get done unless we have a strong leader like Mitt Romney. Santorum his little endorsement from people he worked in the senate for years. Why is this? I really think his stay in the chase is very temporary. It’s sad that the biggest complaint against Mitt is his success in his personal and business life. Don’t we want to be great? Don’t we want to be a leader nation and champion for the modern world? This guy is sharp, balanced, and much more easily connects with regular people then someone like Santorum especially due to his cultural depth and background. Santorum has proven he has a limited view of the world and from what I’ve seen a very narrow belief set. A little learning is a dangerous thing. Drink deep and do your homework and I think you’ll find Mitt by far the best candidate to lead our nation into this new global era. I really want my children to have a strong nation and world leader that I had growing up.

  20. I’m getting really tired of hearing about the two front liars and, if Ron Paul is even included in the topic, that he is trailing far behind. Give a number, it’s not that far behind like we are talking decimal places here, stop with the bias BS!

  21. Okay…everyone is sooo passionate here. I get it. I see all that you are fighting for. Nuts and bolts time.

    Obama is an obamanation. GOP candidates are fighting and self destructing. Where does that leave us as a country? Picking the less of two evils. How sad that such a great nation has come to this.

    Obama is a socialist in the making, Romney is a socialist with financial background experience, Santorum is a foundation of morals no-one wants to hear because he doesn’t give the people in power the confidence he will look out for their interests, Gingrich is a power monger who has a ton of experience but has no morals, and Paul is a constitutionalist who doesn’t believe in any power, even the military power to make us not look like weaklings. Nuts and bolts.

    Put it into perspective. Who do we chose?

    • they both ( Romney and Santorum ) are very bad issue for USA and for the rest of the world. They are both like connection between Hitler and Bush and it is very bad solution.
      Ron Paul is good, nice, cool, peaceful, tolerant and has good plans, he has really good programm and he as the only US politician has programm, which is pro-USA, to boost US economy, to bring all these US troops home from many US wars, to stop to waste money for bad and redundant plans and issues, to low taxes for middle class. He is really optimal candidate and he would be the best president. Ron Paul and the normal government it is the only chance for USA.

  22. Jeremy, the narrow view also applies to Romney. His view is finance…and while I’m intrigued by his views and outlook and mostly agree with him, his down fall is his healthcare outlook. Read his website. I’m not saying his is worse than others, but it’s a very narrow view. If it wasn’t for his healthcare background, how he reacts to it, I would support him 100%.

    • You know American politics to the rest of the world is like some sort of strange sport which it seems impossible to comprehend the rules of.
      Outside of an infantile argument (constitution) as to what Mormon’s are/believe/don’t believe and the incredulously ignorant labeling of Obama as a socialist (Google it for pity sake!), there is nothing. …. or did I miss something … is it a presidential election to elect the most powerful person in the world or some bizzare wrestling match between the Christian faith and socialism? Is nobody interested in actual policy?
      The rest of the world thinks your’e nuts. Check out the link below as an example of how this is being written up here in Australia.

      http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=277594?

      • Oh please! Have any of you ever watched the Prime Minister’s question period in British Parliament? Watch “Party Animals” on Hulu and take a look at some of the political campaigns in Great Britain. Oh, and a House of Lords that has virtually no legislative power.

        People criticize our Electoral College system for electing a President. Yet, this Electoral vote is in fact based upon a popular vote in each of the several states, where we as individual citizens vote for the President. In Great Britain, to which Australia has strong ties and Her Majesty has a representative in Australian Government, the people cannot elect their Prime Minister. They can only elect their own individual district MP (Member of Parliament). Then the majority party in the House of Commons selects the Prime Minister (PM). It would be like us having only our congressional representative to vote for directly and then having the majority party in Congress selecting our President. Imagine Nancy Pelosi as President and you begin to get the picture.

        And, if she wanted to, Queen Elizabeth could throw out the entire result of even that indirect selection of Prime Minister and name her own PM. There is a reason it is called “Her Majesty’s Government”. She directs the PM to form the government. Though by tradition the British Monarch goes with the person chosen by the House of Commons, under British law she does not have to do so. Imagine how that would work if it were like this in America?

        Don’t get me wrong, I love the British and the Australians! I think they are fine people and they have been allies and friends for more than 200 years. They are great people, but let’s face it politics in Great Britain (and I’ll wager in Australia too) is every bit as nutty as here in America, and in some ways more nutty.

        • @ Sailaway – Good and accurate picture of the British and Australian systems of Government (and the Queen did sack the PM of Australia in 1975). Which is ‘nuttier’ is a point that could be argued. On our side the leader of the majority party (voted in by their elected party members) does mean they can be replaced (we just had an attempted challenge which failed) if the majority of the elected members vote them out. On your side, and I think to the detriment of ‘the leader’ after having been given a mandate by the whole country (or at least those who bother to vote, we have compulsory voting and get fined if we don’t, imagine that in the US!) is there for the term, irrespective of their performance or popularity. What most on our side can’t fathom at all is the fact that Obama is (in my reading of the current situation) not even close to not being the preference of a majority of Americans … but can’t get enough support inside his own party to push through his legislative agenda? That Democrats vote against him on the simplest of legislation based on what they perceive to be their own vested interest in being re-elected is bonkers and is currently evident does not support the principal of a stable Government.
          I do however very much believe that the diatribe spoken by all four candidates and seemingly swallowed by a majority of the citizens about the US becoming a ‘European Socialist Country’ needs addressing. 30 Seconds reading wiki on the definition of socialism should be enough to disavow any notion of such rubbish. The US has always and will always be a capitalist country. Obama is a hundred miles to the right of socialism. This said and what us ‘communists’ (no I’m not, it’s irony) struggle with in context of the US being an ultra-capitalist country is the seeming lack of any notion of society. Both the left and right (though following your example the right are wavering) in politics in the western world believe the government has 3 primary responsibilities, to educate it’s people (so EVERYBODY irrespective of privilege has a chance to shape their own lives), to look after the health of its people (NOT to make healthcare a product with a price tag) and to protect its people from possible harm in context of war (let’s not go there, and yes we are also in all those places where anybody that’s even half sane might question what we are even trying to do!). In short, education, health and war should be off limits to anybody looking to make a profit.
          Just my personal thoughts, not dictated by malice, religion or profit and certainly not suggesting left or right is correct and we all might be a bit better off if we got sensible somewhere in the middle.

      • It’s about beliefs, Tom. In a nutshell, it’s about how we feel about our morals, balanced by economics, our faith in what we are doing as a country (the constitution plays into that because freedom is so important to us as a society, and the reason the world is seeing so much turmoil? Our government has lost sight of what is the foundation of what has made this country good and great. Obama wants to take care of the poor, wants to be “green”, but is also looking at his voting block. We are no different than any other country in that the real “populace” wants to be heard. We don’t want those rights pissed away. Does that answer your question? I’ll look at your link…but I have to be honest with you… I’m more about correcting where Obama and our Congress became power hungry instead of about America and how to correct the direction they actually think is right for us and the world economy and how we are all people.

      • Tom from Oz —

        Ron Paul is the only one who wants to restore our freedoms and Prosperity (and get us out of the business war making).

        The rest are for some more of what FOX aired in this show: “Illegal Everything” — a Must See!

        Shows how Americans are “breaking” the law daily, without knowing it, because of the hundreds of millions of rules and regulations. And how cops are using this as an excuse to arrest anybody for just about anything!

        From the Nation with the most Freedoms in the civilized world, we have now become one with the least!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=CFfVeXhtRa0

    • what is his view in finances? This Romney ( his name is likely Willard and not Mitt )is backed by all possible global speculators and it means that his politics will be support of all possible speculators from mega – companies and this support will be thanks to your national money, which should be used for social and another purposes.
      he is antilife and it is pro war oriented bloke than it can be new wars with participation of your soldiers or in case of global world war with participation of your whole nation. Presidential elections are not like fun. It gets about your future and future of the world.
      Ron Paul is the only sane, normal, intelligent and proAmerican, additionally respects peace and is tolerant and nice.

  23. I’ll bottom-line it. I am Christian. I believe that Jesus is The Christ, The Messiah, the only begotten Son of God. I believe that as Jesus Himself said, He is God. Not a god, but rather The God, God Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

    Jesus is the Word that was spoken at the creation of the world as John explained in his Gospel. Christ willingly, knowingly, and obediently gave up His life in atonement for the sins of all for all time. His was the perfect sacrifice demanded by perfect God for the sins of all mankind.

    And I believe as George Washington believed, the success of American democratic government is inextricably tied to the morality of its people. I would rather see a man elected as President who believes in setting a moral standard and exhorting all Americans to strive to be their better selves, but if Romney is the GOP nominee this Fall, I will vote for him in the General Election. Make no mistake all of you Paul supporters, there is a vast difference between Obama and any of the four GOP candidates.

    Obama has only just begun his promised transformation of this nation. If he gets another term, unfettered by the desire for reelection, he will make his first 4 years look like a Reagan presidency by comparison. I am not a Romney supporter for the nomination and will not likely change my mind, but if he is the GOP nominee, he will receive my vote in November.

    Everyone needs to wake up and realize what is truly at stake here. I have been alive during the tenure of 10 Presidents and in all of my life we have never faced what we face now. There has never been a time when conservatives needed more to unite behind the GOP nominee than now. I am no supporter of Ron Paul, but if he pulled off a true miracle and got the GOP nomination this year, I would vote for him as well.

    Support your guy this Spring and Summer and support him strongly, whomever “your guy” is, but this Fall we must defeat the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in the ballot box. Period.

    • J Brennan posted a good one — here is paraphrasing it.

      You gotta feel bad for ‘poor’ Mitt. He’s there plugging every week, and every week somebody gets ahead to help out. The people who have led Mitt so far: Donald Trump, then Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich & Rick Santorum. He’s been led by a reality show star, a crazy lady, a stuttering cowboy, the guy who brings the pizza, the nutty professor & a
      hyperactive 58-year old ‘teenager’ who looks like he’s running for student council. That’s gotta hurt a little.

      Since Ron Paul is being black-balled, Republican voters have been reduced to using the same criteria as a 4 a.m. barroom pickup: Has a pulse and no visible cold sores….

  24. Despite Their Bad Regard for President Obama—The Republicans Can’t Find an Acceptable—and Winning— Presidential Candidate:

    Gov. Mitt Romney is thus far the closest thing that the Republican Party has to an elect-able candidate in relation to President Obama.

    Sen. Rick Santorum has more consistency to his conservative values, but the extreme nature of his social-policy views would make him an easy target for “mad dog” presentation in Democratic ads during the upcoming campaign.

    Rep. Ron Paul has many unique views that resonate greatly with people on both sides of the aisle, but his singular greatest limitation is that his direct style of advocating for his views does not work well with a form of government that requires compromise, not dictatorship or obstruction, to get anything done.

    Speaker Newt Gingrich hardly merits mention. His wide variety of ideas contradicts his recent efforts to reestablish himself as an authentic Conservative.
    ____________________

    We Americans always vote for our presidents as if we are choosing a dictator. We care most about his views, which leads us to believe that he will steer our country in our preferred direction.

    But this is not the case: no elected official can impose his will in this way. Either he must compromise, or he fails his constituents with a gridlock stalemate in which everybody avoids the tough choices of what they don’t want, but nobody gets what they need.

    (The debt-ceiling debacle demonstrated this perfectly: the Tea Party Republicans held their ground against paying America’s bills without future reductions, the future reductions were arranged in what turns out to be an eminently surmountable fashion, and all we got for their trouble was a lowering of our credit rating. (We didn’t even get a lousy T-shirt.)
    ____________________

    Even as we watched President Barack Obama implement numerous mainstream, conservative, Republican ideas—

    His liberal, progressive, Democratic base has detested his betraying their “Hope and Change” values—

    While the loyal, Republican opposition garnered great success with their consistent, repetitive, Frank Luntz-crafted messages of “lower taxes” and “too much regulation” and “no more Kenyan socialism”—

    Until the economy started turning around.
    ____________________

    But a steadily rising economy pretty much threatens to changes everything….
    ____________________

    This puts the Republicans in a challenging spot right now: in order to win the Presidency in November, either the economy must go back to Hell in a handbasket—

    Or the Republicans must come up with a candidate who is:

    (A) Conservative-enough to pass muster with the base, and

    (B) Reasonable-enough to pass must with the majority of relatively moderate Americans actually willing to vote for him, and

    (C) Leader-like and charismatic-enough to bring enough of the people out to vote.
    ____________________

    Now that it seems to be “Halftime in America,” maybe the former mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, California would be interested in taking on the job.

    You read it first here.

    Now announcing the soon-to-be, up-and-coming front-runner for the 2012 Republican Presidential Nomination:

    The Man with No Name.

    Regards,
    (($; -)}
    Gozo!

    • Here are the facts about Mittens.
      “We need to add ships to the navy and modernize our air force”
      – war profiteering for his friends
      “My campaign isn’t led by a lobbyist, he is just my advisor” (Remember how Newt “advised” freddie mac? Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG7c7m37geI )
      – endorsed by the friendly neighborhood lobbyist 🙂
      – campaign run by friendly neighborhood lobbyist
      -lie
      Now its time for the Flip Flopney variety hour!

      “I like the mandates, mandates work”
      -Flip
      “I think it’s unconstitutional on the 10th Amendment front”
      -Flop
      “‘Roe v. Wade has gone too far.”
      -Flip
      “I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.”
      -Flop
      “I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”
      -Flip
      “Ronald Reagan is… my hero.”
      -Flop
      “I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.”
      -Flip
      “There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.”
      -Flop

      Stay tuned folks! Good news! Flip Flopney has decided to ramp up production.

  25. Why are we doing all this? This insane, sick species has about 200 years left on this planet. It is by far too insane to go on. We are at war with each other and with the very life planetary system which supports us. Our educational system of “higher” has installed in its products all of the wrong, evil and self-destructive values. If we’re the most intelligent species here, things are awful bad. Good luck! to the children who will have to suffer the consequences of the disaster we’ve created.

  26. Mitt Romney = Judas Goat

    If not aware of this olden days’ meaning — here it is:

    When sheep are led to be slaughtered, they instinctively feel something is wrong. So, mill around and bleat, but won’t enter the gate leading to the one waiting to smash their heads with a sledge hammer. So, a Judas goat is placed in the pen. The Judas goat is trained to associate with sheep or cattle, leading them through the gate, and passing it safely — while its own life is spared, the ones flowing get their brains bashed!

    Mitt will lead us — and at the end of the gate, Bama will wield the sledge hammer….

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