Rick Santorum swept all three contests on Tuesday, even Colorado which is a state Mitt Romney won handily in 2008. Here are the full results for each state.

Report from CBS News:

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum swept the nominating contests in Missouri, Minnesota and Colorado Tuesday night, putting him back in contention for the GOP nomination.

Santorum now has four victories under his belt in the GOP race, more than any other candidate. His new standing stalls Mitt Romney’s earlier momentum and gives Santorum grounds to argue that he — not Newt Gingrich — is the best conservative alternative to Romney.

Speaking from his Missouri campaign headquarters in St. Charles Tuesday night, Santorum looked ahead to the general election.

“I don’t stand here to claim to be the conservative alternative to Mitt Romney,” he said. “I stand here to be the conservative alternative to Barack Obama.”

Full results are available below.

Missouri Republican primary, 2012, 100% Reporting
Candidate Votes Percentage
Rick Santorum 138,957 55.2%
Mitt Romney 63,826 25.3%
Ron Paul 30,641 12.2%
Uncommitted 9,859 3.9%
Rick Perry 2,463 1.0%
Herman Cain 2,314 0.9%
Michele Bachmann 1,690 0.7%
Jon Huntsman 1,045 0.4%
Michael J. Meehan 364 0.1%
Keith Drummond 162 0.1%
Gary Johnson 547 0.2%
Totals 251,868 100.0%
Colorado Republican caucuses, 2012, 100% reporting
Candidate Votes Percentage
Rick Santorum 26,372 40%
Mitt Romney 22,875 35%
Newt Gingrich 8,394 13%
Ron Paul 7,713 12%
Other 125 0.1%
Totals 65,479 100%
Minnesota Republican caucuses, 2012, 95% reporting
Candidate Votes Percentage
Rick Santorum 21,420 44.8%
Ron Paul 13,023 27.2%
Mitt Romney 8,090 16.9%
Newt Gingrich 5,128 10.7%
Write-Ins 140 0.3%
Totals 47,801 100.0%

117 COMMENTS

  1. WOW, that is a shock. I will vote for Santorum in the primaries because of his social issues. However, I am not convinced that he has as good of chances as Romney to beat Obama. This is wild.

    • Who convinced you that Romney will beat Obama? that is quite the contrary. That is a lie straight from hell. Okay, Romney= Romneycare, Romney=liberalism, Romney=liar, Romney=voter suppression, Romney=Obama, period. You will do the right thing to not vote for Romney. Romney is an elitist candidate, and Obama knows he’s the best one to have up against him. There is no clear differences between him. Only the elitist and Fox news want him. Fox news is the establishment. Fox was the only news I would get my news from. But now I have turned them off. They are protecting Romney like the all the other medias are protecting Obama. Fox news has joined ranks with lame stream media. Don’t let them fool you about Romney. I personally am voting for Newt.

      • The research that I have done has convinced me. RomneyCare? he said that it was a bad idea on a national level. I’m okay with that answer, whatever his views on government run healthcare won’t effect me because he will leave it to the states. Romney a liberal? We seem to forget that Romney was the conservative alternative to McCain in 2008. He has turned busniness after business around, I am sure he is the most capable to do that to the federal government. A liar? Reagan flip-flopped on abortion too. Voter suppression? what? It is the voters that put him in. I don’t see the connection. Not sure what you mean by elite but if that means the best qualified, I’ll take the elite.
        p.s. don’t let Newt fool you, he is the most dangerous of all.

      • I’ve been an active street-soldier for the GOP since 1960, and can tell you that only Chas. Krauthammer and Carl Rove have it right: The GOP “Establishment” has basically been conservative since we beat Rockefeller and gave the nomination to Barry Goldwater. The majority of GOP congressmen are conservative. And so what if from time to time, there are a few moderate Republicans? When it counted, they stood strong for conservative Justices for the Supreme Court. Trouble now is that -everyone has their own definition of just what being “a true conservative” really means, and if a candidate isn’t what the individual wants, then he must be from the “establishment”. Reagan was as perfect as you’ll ever see, starting with the fact he was a good candidate and had an amazing carisma, but he knew when he had to make some hard choices, and had the courage to make them.

      • Granny and others are wrong about the so-called “GOP Establishment”. I’ve been active in politics since 1958, and the “establishment” has been mostly conservative since we beat Rockefeller in 1964 and gave the nomination to Barry Goldwater. (Great conservative then, but a lousy candidate!). Our GOP congress people are primarily conservative, and even those who are more moderate have strongly supported the right nominees for the Supreme Court. Biggest problem is that so many people have their own definition of “a true conservative” and most definitions would not fit Reagan. Mellow out, you folks who think without much experience or knowledge, and don’t be so quick to judge.

      • Voter Fraud — claimed many after the results (inconceivable that Ron Paul got so few; will actual ballots be counted, or depend on electronic machines, that may be rigged to give a casino-like split….?)!

        Here is a solution to prevent Voter Fraud:

        1) Have Donald Trump create the voting machines like an One-Arm-Bandit slot machine — when you pull the lever, you’ll see two lemons followed by a picture of the candidate you voted. Then hear the sound of a Slot Coin (bearing the supposed picture of that Candidate) drop in an enclosed box…this should make you feel secure that your actual vote counts.

        2) Have all these boxes carted to the Federal Reserve Board in DC, to be taken to a dark room in their basement, and have each slot coin (to simplify, let’s call it: Shekel) be counted by them.

        Once the Feds announce the results of these Shekels counted in secret, there could not be a question as to the election’s validity….

      • Look at Canada with its strong conservative government and a stable economy… who of the republican candidates can take that to the states to reduce the trillions that obama has ruthlessly spent? i say Santorum because he best sticks up for the morals, and for those who seek God’s honour by fighting for it with the demolision of things such as abortion, gay marriage, etc., God will help. Santoram is the choie for all of you!
        Advice from a citizen of Canada

        • Friend from Canada

          Besides, Obama’s Administration wasn’t the only Administration that “ruthlessly” spent TRILLIONS of Dollars to bring us to a Unsustainable National Debt of $16 TRILLION. The Republicans had-a-hand in the “spending”, as well.

          The only MORAL Choice for President is Ron Paul. It would be MORALLY WRONG to vote for any other. These Whack-Job “Politicians”, including Rick Santorum, have “Recklessly” SPENT AWAY our Children’s, Grandchildren’s, Great-Grandchildren’s and Great-Great-Grandchildren’s FUTURES, and you say we should vote for MORE of the Status-Quo? You’ve got to be kidding me!

      • Look at Canada with its strong conservative government and a stable economy… who of the republican candidates can take that to the states to reduce the trillions that obama has ruthlessly spent? i say Santorum because he best sticks up for the morals, and for those who seek God’s honour by fighting for it with the demolision of things such as abortion, gay marriage, etc., God will help. Santoram is the choie for all of you!
        Advice from a citizen of Canada

        • Friend from Canada

          Rick Santorum is just another “Counterfeit” Conservative who is actually a BIG Government “Spender”. His RECORD says all we need to know about how he will Govern. He’s a Corrupt ARROGANT Millionaire Washington-Corporate Lobbyist who “plays and preys” upon the people of Faith. He’s just another Serial Hypocrite and a Tea Party “Phony” who CAN’T be Trusted!

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Aohgrn1peA

    • The only man, who can beat Obama is Ron Paul, because his proposals and programm are very close to ideal and I think that majority of people in USA are normal people. That´s why nobody will vote for Santorum, Romney and Gingrich in general election and everybody will vote for Obama second time as for less evil.
      USA and US nation needs president of USA and not president Of Israel or Germany or Great BRitain or another countries. USA need president of USA, US nation needs president of US nation and the only republican candidate, who is normal and fullfills all these conditions is Ron Paul. He has very good proposals of foreign politics and very good proposals of domestic politics. he is moderate candidate and he can be tolerated and elected by many people and not only by followers of republican party but he is naturally republican and ghe will care about interests of US nation and republican party. It is time to understand it.

    • Just saw this of Ron Paul — what an apodictic statement!

      ““Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country”” — Ron Paul, Speech at CPAC 2011

  2. Buckeye, I would also vote for Santorum but I live in a state where we have a caucus so I will not get a chance to vote intill the main election. However, I think he has a better chance at beating Obama because I think he would unit the republiction part better the Romney or Gingrich.

  3. I don’t think it’s a surprise to anyone but Newt Gingrich, who early on cast this as a race only between himself and Romney. I’ve never heard Romney characterize the race that way. Gingrich knew he needed to get the other 2 out to even stand a chance, and his efforts failed. I don’t see how people can say that the media is for Romney — not the media I see. The biggest downside for Santorum is that he’s perceived to be too religious. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable. I don’t think he’s any more religious than Romney or Paul, but he wears his religion on his sleeve, which offends some people, just as much as people wearing anti-religion on their sleeves offends many. The people I know want a faith-based candidate but not a vocally religious candidate. In other words, their religion informs their actions, so they don’t have to publicly say what they believe. I want a national primary — I’m tired of the nominee being decided by so few states. By the time they get to my state, too many have dropped out for me to have as much of a choice as I want.

  4. I have done my research on all of the candidates and while I still believe that Ron Paul is the best candidate in the race I still prefer Santorum over Gingrich and Romney. I just want to see changes for the good in America and I don’t really see any candidate, but Paul being able to accomplish this. I feel that Romney and Gingrich will run the country further into the ground and Santorum won’t really make it any better, but wont make it any worse either. If you haven’t researched all of the candidates and found out what they really are for and against, then I urge you to do so. If you are relying on the main stream media for your information, then you are more that likely misled.

    • I’ve done my research, too, and have come to a different conclusion. I don’t presume that because people disagree with me, they haven’t researched the candidates. I agree with much of what Paul says, but even he admits he can’t get it done in one fell swoop, it will take incremental steps, or the changes would send the country into chaos. It’s just simply the natural order, you cannot abruptly change a system on which so many people depend. And Paul is not the only one that can begin and implement the incremental changes. Finally, I do not believe Paul is an effective communicator and his positions are easily misunderstood. He used to use the term “armed neutrality” to explain his foreign policy, but I haven’t heard him do so in this election cycle. If he would come up with a simple yet accurate description, I think he could eliminate a lot of the misunderstanding. All that said, Paul is my 2nd choice, after Romney, whom I feel has better business experience to get the economy on the road to recovery. I’m wondering if Paul would be considered eligible to be Chairman of the Fed, which comes up again in 2014, I believe. What better way to audit the Fed and to bring it under control (which even Paul admits has to be done, we can’t just wipe it out in one fell swoop) than to have Ron Paul be the chairman. I like Santorum, but I think he wears his religion on his sleeve a bit too much. You can be religiously and spiritually grounded without having to constantly talk about it. Last on my list is Gingrich, whom I dislike because of his past history of gross hypocrisy (the hypocrisy trumps the adultery). Whatever he brings to the table is present in the other candidates who don’t have a history of adultery compounded by hypocrisy.

      • “I’ve done my research, too, and have come to a different conclusion. I don’t presume that because people disagree with me, they haven’t researched the candidates.I agree with much of what Paul says, but even he admits he can’t get it done in one fell swoop, it will take incremental steps, or the changes would send the country into chaos. It’s just simply the natural order, you cannot abruptly change a system on which so many people depend. And Paul is not the only one that can begin and implement the incremental changes.”

        “I’m wondering if Paul would be considered eligible to be Chairman of the Fed, which comes up again in 2014, I believe. What better way to audit the Fed and to bring it under control (which even Paul admits has to be done, we can’t just wipe it out in one fell swoop) than to have Ron Paul be the chairman.”

        My thoughts exactly! Thanks for stating that so well!

  5. Rick Santorum had a good night. Mitt Romney had a bad night.

    And Ron Paul is having a good week.

    Combine a new Reuter’s Poll today which put Paul second NATIONALLY, a strong second place finish by Paul in Minnesota tonight, a performance by Santorum that undermines Mitt Romney’s supposed inevitability, and guess what you have?

    A race that remains wide open!

    Romney was once worried about a serious challenge from Newt Gingrich. Newt is quickly becoming yesterday’s news.

    Romney is now challenged by a Paul surge and wins from Santorum that would have been unthinkable just weeks ago.

    Paul is just as poised to win the GOP presidential nomination as the remaining three candidates. Gingrich has gone from a runaway victory in South Carolina to oblivion. Santorum has gone from oblivion to runaway victories. Romney simply goes on.

    And Ron Paul goes on, incorruptible, undaunted and toward the ultimate victory!

    • It would be optimally if Ron Paul would win, because he is really the best and the most normal US politician, the best issue for USA, the best issue for the rest of the world and the best chance for his party for recovery. The rest of these candidates are really rather laughing stock.

    • R. Paul would win nationally, he is really the best, the most optimal and the most intelligent candidate in USA and the best solution for US nation. It is really time to understand it. Majority of his records during work in this congress are really good. He is the only sane politician there, who candidates and he is real chance for USA.

  6. Darryl, Colorado wasn’t a run-away victory for Romney — that lead changed hands a couple of times during the night and still ended up quite close. And Santorum didn’t beat Romney by any wider margins than Romney beat Santorum in previous primaries/caucuses. Gingrich is the loser, as he has tried from the beginning to frame this as a race between himself and Romney. Paul had better start picking up some delegates or those national polls are going to be a moot point — it’s the committed delegates that determine the nominee, not national polls. Always coming in 2nd or 3rd or 4th isn’t going to increase his delegate count by much.

  7. Try to calculate the winning votes of all the candidates (results of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Missouri, Colorado, and Minnesota): ROMNEY-1,178,732 votes, GINGRICH-835,559 votes, SANTORUM-567,305 votes, PAUL-334,111 votes.

    Look at Santorum’s votes and compare it to Romney’s. If in the primaries, he could not even level Romney’s votes, How can he defeat OBAMA? Some of you are dreaming… hahaha

  8. Given that the percent of the population that participated in the 3 states was incredibly small, the results mean very little. In Colorado only 6% of Registered Republicans participated but the pundits want us to believe that this was a big win for Santorum.

  9. Before the debates began, I thought I would support Newt Gingrich, but went into the process with an open mind. Once the debates began and I saw what the candidates had to say and how they purported themselves, I began researching all I could find about the candidates. One point to make is this….none of us is perfect and it would be impossible for us to come up with a candidate that is perfect. That being said, here is my take on the candidates. I have not been impressed at all with how Romney has behaved in the debates and in his campaigning. It also concerns me that he is not so terribly unlike Obama, the worst thing to happen to this nation in decades. I respect Gingrich’s knowledge and experience but I think we’ll have a difficult time getting him elected as president. Paul is a very nice man who means very well. However, his stance would leave this nation in peril since he really doesn’t want to deal with the very real threat of terrorist ties to Cuba and other sites which could place nuclear weapons just miles from our shores. A sweet sentiment to “not police the world” but it’s kind of like those coexist bumper stickers – fine if other nations were likely to coexist. How do we coexist with people who will stop at nothing to destroy us? Paul’s stance is too much like just ignoring the problems and hoping they’ll go away….not realistic. That leaves us with Santorum, my candidate of choice since the debates began. Yes, he’s open about his Christianity but he fully supports the Constitution and isn’t going to mandate that everyone go to church. He’s an honest, faithful family man who has worked hard supporting conservative values for a long time. He understands the important issues facing our nation and he understands the processes by which to begin rectifying some of the damage Obama has done. I believe other voters are coming to conclusions similar to mine and that is why Santorum is making a comeback at this point. I would urge all to consider Santorum. He’s a good man with a total grasp on what the problems are and with good ideas for our future. Let’s not get caught up in labeling him “too religious”. He wasn’t “too religious” to be effective in Congress when fighting for welfare reform. By the way, any of you catch the recent news article with Obama professing his Christianity and how often he gets on his knees and prays when making decisions affecting our country? What a crock of you know what! This from a man that attended for 20 plus years a “church” that spewed anti-American sentiments. Don’t forget Michelle’s comment that she was never proud to be an American until her husband was elected President. If the left wants to make a big deal about Santorum
    being a Christian, all we need do is point out Obama’s proclamations of faith in that article to completely render that argument moot. Logically, I think Santorum is our guy and we need to be united in our support if we want to send a strong message about mainstream Americans like us wanting our country back.

    • “How do we coexist with people who will stop at nothing to destroy us?”
      I don’t think that this statement is true and don’t understand why so many americans believe it is…

      make people fear something and you can control them…

      So what does all of the fear do to the public? They want a savior. Aha! And who is this savior? Who else but the nanny-state. The Welfare-Warfare Big Government. When the public is conditioned from childhood to view the world as a dangerous and very fearful place they will willingly give up their freedom for the sake of “Safety.”

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_liberty_122002_fear.html , there are many sites about the subject

  10. You must firstly look at all these records of your candidates. It is very good internet site: http://www.issues2000.org, which says and shows all records of these candidates and you must agree that the best records has just Ron Paul. He is really ideal candidate and very intelligent candidate and he cares about interests of USA and US nation. The best candidate for president.

  11. “I’ll vote for Santorum if he blah blah blah….” HOW CAN ANY OF YOU VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE PROMISING MORE WAR?!?!?! That is completely irresponsible on your part! 3 candidates are promising us more war and there is 1 candidate who has enough balls to not say what the war profiteers and the Jews in Power want to hear and that is Ron Paul! Has anybody seen the video on youtube of the first moments after a bomb landed on a neighborhood in Libya? Where tbere was a 6 yr old girl, standing in the middle of a dirt road, crying and bleeding with her bottom jaw blown off BECAUSE OF A USA BOMB? Have any of you seen on youtube whats going on in Fallujah, Iraq and the affects the depleted uranium is having on the children that are being born? THEY ARE BORN WITH HERENDOUS DEFORMITIES YOU CAN’t EVEN IMAGINE! Go take a look real quick. Just search youtube user “FederalJack” and maybe, just maybe you will quit supporting these tyrants promising more war!!! Close to 5,000,000 people have died in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya since this bogus war on terror began. 92% have been innocent civilians and in Iraq over half of the 3,000,000 dead are children. So quit supporting these candidates promising more war. Because if you keep supporting these candidates, you ARE supporting little 6 year old having their jaws blown off with her whole family dead around her in pieces!! Come on America, that is NOT US! Please, we need to stop the wars. Iran IS NOT a threat to the US. Quit believing the propaganda on TV. YOU HAVE TO SOMEHOW UNDERSTAND THAT FOX NEWs, CNN, all the big news channels are lying to us all. Please, no more wars they have to end. What I just described is the reason war vets come back and don’t want to talk about what happened because they were the ones blowing little girls jaws off and they didnt want that to happen but they followed orders. Trust me, I know guys that have come back and I have a good friend working for tbe DOD and I have heard things I cannot repeat or even think of. He was in Iraq for 2 years and Afghanistan for 2 years. He is now starting to break from what he did but his message to me while he was on the phone crying is that WE HAVE TO STOP THE WARS AND SUPPORT NO CANDIDATE THAT WANTS MORE WAR. So come on America, use your head and habe some compassion for our fellow man. Wake up!

    • I am in total agreement with you, Trav. It just amazes me how many people are afraid to step outside the insane box in which we have put ourselves in this country. I fear it may be too late to turn things around, and we may very well be headed over the edge. However, if this is the case, I would much rather have Ron Paul in command of the helm as we go over. He would be the most capable of keeping us from capsizing, and bringing us back to equilibrium. He has a clear understanding of what is really happening, both here in the US as well as globally. Not only is his foreign policy the only one that truly makes sense (basically, the Golden Rule), but he also understands our debt problems, as well as how government involvement in every details of citizens’ lives in not only unnecessary, but UNCONSTITUTIONAL! His message has been clear, concise, and consistent for the last 30 years. People, WAKE UP!!!

  12. I don’t know how anyone can say the media is for Romney when every time I turn the TV on there is Gingrich or Santorum. Esp. Gingrich. For as bad as Gingrich dises the media, they sure have him on alot or talking about him. Romney has had to fight Gingrich, Santorum, far right conservatives and the GOP. By the time they finish with him the republicans will have given the election to President Obama on, not a siver platter, but on a gold platter. Maybe Santorum can get the far right vote in the primary, but I don’t think he can beat Obama. He is too far to the right, and we’re not in the 50’s. Romney was our best bet. but he has been so beat up by his own party that I’m not sure he can beat Obama anymore. Gingrich would be a desaster! Can’t even balance his own budget! And, too many of us can remember his time in the White House.And then there’s Ron Paul. I agree with both of Marlene’s comments, so no need to repeat.

  13. Trav, I completely and totally agree with you. More people should be made aware of these things. THEY ARE TRUE. The USA is NOT at war. They are STARTING a war. There’s a difference. Bush and Obama have made soooo many enemies they have to be paranoid. They don’t even trust Americans now. How pathetic is that. Is that the US strategy for peace?

    For those of you who don’t believe Trav… watch this.

    Beyond Treason: Depleted Uranium & Anthrax Vaccines [Full Film]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDWTpp0jQo8

    What gives the USA the right to do this to other countries and to their own people? It still goes on today. Wake up or forever lose your peace.

    • And it is the highest time to end this madness and stop to vote for candidates, who are bushlike or obamalike candidates in this question – Romney, Gingrich, Santorum. They will want to have more wars, they want to waste more money for wars and for global sepculators.
      It is practically the only one candidate, who is worthy to be president there, who is completely different, who has cared, cares and will care about USA and US nation. And this only candidate is Ron Paul.There is no better one.

      • To the Economically Illiterate:

        There are 3 MAIN Economic Problems which are INTERTWINED and they will eventually become UNSOLVABLE if we Elect the “Wrong” man into Office.

        They are:

        1) Balancing the Budget or a “Balanced Budget Amendment”

        2) Government Borrowing and Spending

        3) The National Debt of $16 TRILLION

        People really don’t understand the NEGATIVE IMPACT that our Economy would take, if “Balancing the Budget” or a Balanced Budget Amendment were to be implemented onto the Government as it’s currently being run. A Balanced Budget Amendment would be fine, and it possibly could be implemented years from now, however the “ACTUAL” SPENDING of the Government must be cut FIRST for the Budget to Balance. It’s the BORROWING which throws the Government’s Balance Sheet completely out-of-whack.

        If a Politician says they can Balance the Budget, without “ACTUAL” SPENDING CUTS (not cuts on the “proposed rate of growth” proposed by Romney, Gingrich and Santorum), then they are LYING! Thus, Ron Paul is the ONLY ONE “Telling the Truth” to the American People.

        If the Government were to implement Balancing the Budget, without cutting actual spending, then $1.3 TRILLION would immediately be “sucked out” of the Economy the second it was implemented. In other words, a Balanced Budget would DEVASTATE our Economy if it were to be implemented right now. The Debt must FIRST be Liquidated or Paid Down and the Borrowing must cease. Government MUST learn to live within it’s means.

        And People don’t fully understand how this Government Borrowing Mechanism works. The Government doesn’t actually borrow “money” from Foreign Countries, like China. The Government actually borrows money from the Federal Reserve (at Interest) in exchange for Government Bonds (T-Bills) from the Government. These Bonds (Our Debt) then go up for Auction with another rate of Interest and a Timeline attached. This is commonly referred to as “The Terms”. Investors and Foreign Countries then purchase these Bonds (Our Debt) looking for a Return on Investment (ROI). But because Investors and Foreign Countries are “scaling back” their purchases of these Bonds (Our Debt) as the Dollar becomes less of a “Safe Haven”, the FED is now purchasing these Government Bonds (Our Debt), essentially “Monetizing” the Debt of the United States.

        So, in order for the Budget to Balance, this process of Borrowing needs to cease. But in order for it to cease, “ACTUAL” SPENDING CUTS by the Government MUST take place. However, the “Millstone” that’s currently around the Government’s neck PREVENTING any kind of Budget Balancing is the OVERWHELMING EXISTING DEBT of $16 TRILLION. The Debt needs to be Paid Down or Liquidated FIRST. It’s going to be either RAISE TAXES or DEFAULT because there is NO “Political Will” to CUT ACTUAL SPENDING.

        We see this Process NOW unfolding in Greece. Bond Holders in Greece are now being “pressured” to take a “haircut”. It won’t be long before they are “forced” into taking this haircut. Greece’s Debt is primarily financed by private creditors, banks and other investment firms. Greece was supposed to Bailed-Out in May 2011. Since then, Greece has changed and shuffled their leaders. They finally settled for a “Banking Technocrat”, Mario Monti, to try to solve the Greek Debt Crisis. This European Debt Crisis WON’T BE SOLVED until the Bond Holders are “pushed out of the way”, “forced” to lose everything, and the “Bankster Take-Over” (Privatization) of Greece’s Natural Resources and Infrastructure is implemented. Greece WON’T declare Bankruptcy with a Banking Technocrat in charge. The CRIMINAL “Banksters” would suffer loss and that’s NOT going to happen.

        We’ve seen this Process happen here in the United States with the Auto Industry Bail-Out. Instead of the Auto Industry going through a “Controlled Bankruptcy” through the Rules established by a Free-Market Capitalist System, they were Bailed-Out in accordance to a Socialist System and the Bond Holders were “forced” to take the Loss. Thus, Fascism “replaced” Capitalism in the United States and the term “Too Big To Fail” was born. Fascism is the merger of State and Corporate Powers. The Taxpayer money used to Bail-Out the Auto Industry then became MORE Debt that was heaped upon the American Taxpayer. It’s all about the “Bankster Take-Over” of the World.

        All in all, the Free Market Capitalist System is Broken. In Europe, the European Economic Debt Crisis and the Socialist system is both systemic and doomed to fail. The “Banksters” KNOW this! US Banks are heavily invested in European Sovereign Debt. There are TRILLIONS of Dollars in Derivatives exposed if these European countries Default on their Debt. Greece will start the “Domino Effect”, as the Euro collapses. The Economic “Tsunami” created by the Defaults will cross the Atlantic and Collapse our Economy insomuch that will make the Economic Crisis of 2008, look like a walk-in-the-park. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE SYSTEM TO BAIL-OUT THESE COUNTRIES AND THE “BANKSTERS” DERIVATIVES. The “Banksters” KNOW this and will then “Take-Over” Everything with a GIANT RESET and form the New World Order (NWO) and New World Government.

        To give you an idea for “what’s coming” to the American Taxpayer, recently the “Banksters” at Bank of America (BOA) just transferred $74 TRILLION worth of Derivatives to the FDIC (with the FED’s Blessing), which is INSURED by the American Taxpayer. But of course, NO ONE will go to JAIL for this! Why? Because it’s all a “rigged” game and a “contrived event” is about to be hatched upon America which will effect the ENTIRE World! And one thing’s for CERTAIN – EVERYONE will “feel and recognize” the Economic Collapse that is right around the corner. The Banking Elites “Plan” to turn our Country into “squalor”, just like they did during the Great Depression so the People will wind-up BEGGING for relief.

        Ron Paul has it RIGHT, but it may be too late to reverse course even if he is elected. If ANYONE, besides Ron Paul is elected, IT’S GAME OVER! The next President will surely “Preside” over the coming Economic Collapse! It’s a forgone Conclusion. We should ALL be getting PREPARED – NOW!

        • It can be like you say, but it is always optimal to elect the best candidate ( USA has the only option – Ron Paul ), to save what is possible at least.

  14. I agree with some of what you say. Why we would stay in a Middle Eastern nation to see that Democracy is established is beyond me. Believe me, the last thing that will survive in such a country is democracy. It flies in the face of the core of their cultures and religious mandates and will NEVER happen. War is a terrible thing and should not be entered into lightly. I don’t believe Santorum will make such a decision lightly. What he is saying is that we must present a strong opposition to the spreading of terrorism. I have some knowledge of how all radical and many seemingly non-radical Muslims think and of their world view. It is scary. They will not be happy until they have fulfilled their directive from “Allah” to destroy or dominate all non-Muslims. I have seen and heard it myself in Mosques in America in which those oh-so-peaceful people practice their “religion of peace”. Don’t you believe that for a moment. Those nations such as Iran have rather a barbaric Middle Ages type view of the world. When nations such as the USA seek peace, they view that as weakness. When we do not retaliate to an act of terrorism, it emboldens them to take further action. They must understand that we have considerable force and will use it IF necessary. None of us wants war. None of the candidates want war. War is horrendous (note the spelling). However, we must keep a close watch on these radical countries and do what is necessary to protect our nation and those of our allies, such as Israel. Have the Jews not been through enough historically? Are you some kind of Jew hater? Your rhetoric makes me think you might be. I don’t hate anybody but we must be realistic in recognizing who the terrorists are and stay informed as to their objectives. Anything else is just irrational thinking and may likely ultimately result in genocide….of our own nation and any that refuse to convert to Islam. These thoughts are my own, the result of my own observations, experiences and research. I am not led by any mainstream media. I am not a creature to be led by a ring in the nose. Perhaps your anti-war rhetoric should be directed at the nations that are responsible for most of the global unrest and that would be the Muslim and Arab nations. You do know that the terrorists in those nations purposely seek heavily populated areas for their headquarters and safe-houses for terrorist leaders, don’t you? You and I care about those children but they do not. They gladly sacrifice innocent children strapped with bombs if they think they can kill a handful of Americans. I think you have some of the facts but not enough to be truly informed. Paul relies on people such as yourself for support. I appreciate where you heart is coming from, but do you really want the kind of people who strap explosives to their women, children and young men (who are told they will be glorified in Heaven for their sacrifice) to come to dominate the planet? We must fight them if they insist on endangering innocent nations or they will gain too much power and too much momentum to keep them from reaching their ultimate goal….world domination. I know it sounds like something out of a James Bond movie, but truly, my friend, they constitute a serious threat globally that must not be ignored.

    • I know you say you are not controlled by the media but it sure seems like you might be slightly influenced by it. It makes me sad that the media has infiltrated the minds of many with the fear of a global terrorist takeover. They do not have advanced military weapons like we do. Most of the weapons they have were supplied by us when the US was buddy, buddy with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. On Ron Paul will go to war if it is approved by Congress, which it states in the Constitution. If there is a real threat Ron Paul will go in, get approval for an act of war, start the war with a straight forward mission, and finish it quickly. Empires do not last, the United States cannot police the world without driving us, the citizens of this country into an endless depression. All Muslims are not bad, even though you believe they are, but just like any religion you are going to have your extremists. Christians at one time could have been considered terrorists, ever heard of the crusades. Don’t be afraid of Ron Paul and his policies, don’t believe everything you read or hear; we can have a strong yet peaceful nation, we must lead by example. I believe Ron Paul gives us the best chance to do so. Thank you.

  15. You have to look at these states as they are which means they are states with large tea party support and evangelical voters. To this end it is no surprise that the more consistent conservative in this race Santorum won these states. Many may get upset with me on this because they believe Newt is the conservative to go up against Romney however looking at it critically he does have a problem with sticking to one wife at a time and that in turn makes people a little uneasy obviously not his supporters but others. My focus is looking at this as a general election overall strategy. Yes Santorum won three states but one state didn’t have any delegates this time around.Second even with the two other states Romney is still in the lead with the most delegates. Third less voters come out during a primary election then the general so not all republicans are represented in these votes. Fourth winning large states like Florida, Texas, California and New York are big delegate pools which make up for a loss in 3 states that have an equal or lesser combined delegate count. There is no doubt that these wins for Santorum were big and will help him continue onward but looking into the future at a general election one must ask the question can he use the same message he has now to win over moderates, independents, decline to state and even angry democrats who are pissed off at Obama? If he changes his message to move to the middle to pick up those voters should he get the nomination he will be white washed as a flip flop candidate which obviously wont be a help. Looking at this critically and from a general election stand point if Romney were to get the nomination and have Santorum as vice president then that would make a very strong united Republican party and get the party as well as decline to state and Independents out to vote more easily than if just one or the other were to run against Obama. Again I am no fortune teller just thinking of a way to unite the party so that Obama does loose because no matter who you like or dont like among the candidates I’m certain we all want Obama gone more.

    • Good thoughts, BW. I would prefer, though, to see the roles switched, with Santorum as President and Romney as VP. Like it or not, popular or not, our country was founded by men who upheld Judeo-Christian values as the norm. I don’t like radicalism in any form, but since this country has moved away from religion, our morality has declined greatly. You only have to watch tv a few minutes before seeing a scantily clad woman, an ad for Victoria’s Secret, etc. Even many of the shows on the Disney Channel promote sexuality in our pre-teen girls. Parents are both working and I am amazed how often I see parents pick up kids from school and immediately put on a movie to entertain them in the back seat of the car. What happened to talking to their kids? Children are being taught to be so open minded that nothing is rally inherently right or wrong….it’s just a different viewpoint. The rate of cutting among pre-teens and teens is horrendous. The age at which kids begin sexual activity continues to decline. Morally, we are spiraling downward quickly. My point is this….would it really hurt this country to see a man with convictions, with faith, who models decency and doing the right thing? I think it’s exactly what this country needs. Instead of trying to get God out of schools, the pledge of allegiance and getting His name off our money, we need to stand by the basic morality of Christian ethics. Note that I am not saying everyone must convert to Christianity or that every person has to live according to the Christian faith. I am saying this country needs a moral compass and our founders had one in mind….We are endowed by our Creator….That means they believed in God and morality. They were good and just men. We need to be good and just people. We need to teach our children to be good and just. As it is now, we are teaching our children what special interests want them to know more than anything else. We need a president who is good and just, and who really understands the issues. Romney and Gingrich seem to be cancelling one another out of the race and Ron Paul, bless his heart, makes grandiose statements that audiences seem to like but just won’t work in the real world.

      • Santorum will loose against Obama. Clearly. There are NO judeo-christian values with one exceptions: wars, sanctions against Iran and debts and supporting israelis with a few billions bugs year in year and there are just judeo-christian values, but it has nothing to do with Christianity and with Christ, if you believe in satan there are just satanic values. Everybody, who is Christian knows it. Who did kill Christ according to Bible and what a nation was the main enemy of Christ and the reason of his death? Why do you write that there are judeo-christian values? Christian are Christians and Jews are Jews. Jews does not respect Christ and Christians, they reject and neglect even this fact that Christ has ever existed.
        certainly that Ron Paul is the best candidate and the only solution for USA and for US nation and not because he is Christian, it does not matter, if somebody was baptised or not. It gets about his normal plans, projects, his normal values, his whole work in Congress, his brave heart ( he as one of a few republicans and even democrats have condemned Bush and his policy and was against all his bad acts, which has ruined your country, he has said no for it )his love to USA, his honesty and it will work in the real world. It will work better than ,,real,, politics of lunatics, who ruled and rule or intend to rule in your country. It is so called short ball, US nation will elect normal president ( the only normal candidate is Paul )or it will be no USA in a few years.

    • BW

      I have a problem with your assertion that Rick Santorum is all-of-a-sudden a “Tea Party” Candidate. He’s a BIG Government Conservative who supported the TRILLION DOLLAR Expenditures of Medicare Part D and the never-ending Wars and the continued US Military Presence around the Planet. He supports “Federalizing” Laws and Programs which should be STATE ISSUES according to our Constitution. He NEVER mentions the National Debt or HOW to Pay-It-Down, but only in passing. This “Unrealistic Babble” about Balancing the Budget, just shows voters who have ANY Economic Literacy that Rick Santorum hasn’t a CLUE to Solve our Spending/Debt Crisis. He’s a BIG Government Conservative who will continue the Out-of-Control Spending and Increasing National Debt.

      • It would be MORALLY WRONG to vote for anyone besides Ron Paul. The National Debt is $16 TRILLION and GROWING! And here we are – promoting Candidates who will continue to “Mortgage” FUTURE Generations of Americans! IT’S FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE! What’s wrong with you people? This ISN’T American Idol where you vote for someone who “sounds” like they know what they’re talking about. LOOK AT THEIR RECORDS, for crying-out-loud! The FUTURE of Our Country is Depending on us to Vote for the Right Conservative Candidate! Ron Paul!

        • Darryl, every single one of your posts hits the nail right on the head. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what has to happen for this nation to get back in a stable condition and it has to start with everything that you have mentioned. From the research I’ve done, none of the candidates, but Ron Paul, understands this. From some of the posts that I have read, some people think that Ron Paul is not smart enough, but it is quite the contrary. His views for restoring the condition of America are the only ones that make practical sense. We have to start by cutting our spending and that is a fact not an opinion. We spent over $700 million on WWI and the economy that followed was terrible. We spent over $306 billion on WWII and the economy that followed endured the greatest depression that America has ever seen in which many people lost their lives due to the inability to find work to pay for necessities. Currently, we have spent in the range of $806 billion on war efforts and our economy is hurting. If we don’t cap off and cut the spending, then we are going to keep going further into economic hardship and weakness. On top of all that who can argue with the American freedom and constitutional rights that Ron Paul so strongly supports and fights for? And its not anarchy for crying out loud.

  16. Every single US war was made by ‘media’. It’s been useless, senseless and always for control and profit ‘only.’

    START A NEW WAR WITH IRAN? REALLY?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxehBbGnSA&feature=related

    Here’s an example..

    American’s were told that the war in Libya was for ‘humanitarian’ purposes. The media fed you that and you ate it. If the president says so, then it must be the truth.

    ‘Black Gold’ War in Libya – USA/NATO afraid Gadaffi will devalue the dollar by repricing Oil in Gold

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Wt5ry9Yuw&feature=related

    Sound familiar? USA puts sanctions on Iran.. Iran says no problem. I’m not making nuclear weapons (inspectors investigated and found they weren’t) but the USA still needs a reason to infiltrate. Why?

    Iran can sell their oil to their neighbors for ‘GOLD’.

    Not a good thing for the USA dollar. So in this war, ‘Nuclear Weapons’ is the excuse to invade. That’s why Russia and China won’t allow it.
    Not everyone is sleeping. They are on to the war games excuses.

    Iran has done nothing.

    “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5166

    Now you know why Obama is determined. His (their plan – Isreal and the UN and the USA) is not going as planned. Obama needs money and YOUR support so enter…. more lies.

    Do we really NEED to hurt these people more for power and control?

    Don’t vote with war on your mind. You’ll pay later.

  17. Santorum’s biggest pro and con is his distorted extremist religious views and lack of understanding of our Constitution.

    A true Leader, Leads by example. That a large % of Americans believe we should lead the world is part of the same arrogance with which we intervene in other countries free will.
    We the people in growing numbers due to the lack of education of government and religion, seem to not understand what the separation of church and state is nor how it’s supposed to works. A truly religious person can not be a warmonger, nor disrespect Gods given right to free will and self determination.

    The President should not impose his views on others who believe differently or have different values. To use the Government to repress other choices is wrong. The law applies to all, and for so it must protect first the freedom of individuals too choose differently. The consequences of those decisions is a matter of each individual with his creator and not with the Government. The role of Government is not to expand false religious values. You can not start a war or go ahead with deceptive acts as he has described in reference to Iran, in the name of God.

  18. Don’t get me wrong, I like Santorum the person, and admire his strength and courage. I just think he’s a bad choice for President because of his view on the role of our Government.

    • That’s like saying “I like Hit-ler the person, and admire his strength and courage. I just think he’s a bad choice for ruler of the world because of his views on Government.” Santorum is not a good person because of his obvious facism, he is a clone of Hilter.

      • Hit-ler was a National Socialist, that is what Nazi stands for. Mussolini was the Fascist. AS for Santorum, he does not change his message, same as Paul. You know what your voting for, unlike Romney and Gingrich who seem to only pander and change positions depending on the time.
        Although I believe Paul has a much better understanding of the role of Government and agree with him in most concepts, Santorum is a much more likable candidate. He will appeal to a broader audience and has a better chance with independents. Many, maybe most, people vote based on looks, talks, sound bites, etc. Not everyone is a intellectual, or understand the Constitution and it’s principles.

  19. Ron Paul deserves way more than he is being given! I am disgusted by the people who actually vote for any of the other 3, they are all the same. Ron Paul is the only one playing fair and being sincere about the changes he wants to make for the good of our people and our nation and he’s not getting the recognition he deserves, while the others just tell you what you want to hear. Each state has their own problems they need addressed so they go around to each state and say something different. And on top of that the other 3 just sound like a bunch of bickering teen age girls ratting on each other all the time. It’s like the saying “If the zombies come, I’m tripping you.”…is all they care about is getting to the finish line first so that they are the ones who gets to decide what to screw up next! They are but one person, Newt Santoromney…and hes an idiot. period.

  20. Santorum is a dangerous totalitarian. If he were elected, Life, Liberty and Happiness would fly right out the window, but we would all become devout catholics.

    “They [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. ”
    -Thomas Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, Sept. 23, 1800

  21. There is one candidate, who is completeley normal and wise and proAmerican candidate – Ron Paul. It is art to select him, though it should be no problem in my opinion.
    And there are candidates, who are no worthy of voting, because they are like one dishonest candidate: Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, because they have no plans, no programm and their records during their job as lawnmakers have deepen USA in debts and wars.And it is the main reason of problems in USA and the only candidate, who wants to change it is Ron Paul.

  22. Really, Minnesota and Colordado, you all stayed home and let the religious facists dedicate your delegates to Santorum?

    What is coming to this country, is freedom no longer valued? Religion is a mental disease, it’s victims are narcisstic psychopathic zomies who dedicate their lives to indoctrinating everyone else with their disease. If we don’t stop them, YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL HAVING LEARNED ONLY BIBLE STORIES, RELIGIOUS HATRED AND CREATIONISM. Reason over religion. Science over stupidity.

    • Now that ‘s offensive the way you stated it. It’s a problem, because of the hatred. The last time any Christians tried to form a church without rulers consent, they were fed to the lions. A lesson they have learned. Since then they embedded with the ruling authority, kings and dictators, to impose their believes on all.
      After all it is true that not everyone can be a free thinking leader, if there were no submissive followers, who do not question the leaders actions or motives (trolls),

  23. What good is a forum if all comments go into moderation? There is no realtime interactino with other participants, no consensus building, no discourse. this is a worthless forum.

  24. This forum needs a LIKE button so we can see whose comments people agree with. Or even better, a Thumbs-Up and Thumbs-Down so we can see which comments have alot of agreement or dissent. If you want, contact me, I’ll work remotely and add it to your site.

  25. Well it looks like the anti-Christian and Ron Paul fans are really out to smear all of the other candidates. I am here to thank all for throwing their hats into the ring. That takes courage.

    For what it’s worth my family will be watching Rick Santorum closely as his values are more in line with ours. Also he caries the least amount of personal/political baggage and is good to go. As for the others, we haven’t discounted them …yet

  26. Are you ready for NEGATIVE Yield Bonds and the Banks CHARGING YOU to keep YOUR Money On-Deposit? Welcome to the Currency Wars which will lead to the Financial Holocaust!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaNJNeuR4H4

    Even Ron Paul may not be able to fix this one. This is where the Tea Party FAILED. After the 2010 Mid-Term Elections, they FAILED to investigate, arrest, prosecute and imprison the Wall Street Banksters for what they did to our Economy by committing FRAUD. Instead, the Government (with Romney and Gingrich’s Blessing) Bailed-Out the “Too-Big-To-Fail” Banks. Then Occupy Wall Street was “born” and the Corporate Media began their PROPAGANDA promoting the Right/Left Paradigm. DON’T BELIEVE THEIR “CRAP” FOR A MOMENT!

    The Moral of the Story – If you still listen to and/or watch FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, etc. – and you BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY, then you need your head examined! The Corporate Media promotes the DIVISION of the American Right vs. Left, but All-of-us “Average Americans” will be the people who will suffer, while the Bankers, Wall Street Corporations/CEO’s and the Politicians (on-the-take) will be living like Kings and Queens!

    So – Prepare Yourselves, you Slaves! The Financial Holocaust is coming!

    • You really have to ask? Is it not obvious? What do you think are the Super Pacs? Corporations, Associations, or Sectors. They help get candidates elected, Presidents and Congressmen, in exchange for… whatever. Did you know a Chinese Company or a Saudi Arab Sheik can own a US Corporation? The Bin Laden Family still have several. They can hire an American CEO and Board and no one will ever suspect who they serve.

  27. SANTORUM will make a fine President. No problem beating Obama. I’m astonished at the rhetoric and the polls that think Obama would beat anyone. And isn’t it just so coincidental that there’s nothing but good news about the jobless rate, the economy, the auto industry, and manufacturing as soon as Obama begins his campaign? The orchestration of the media, all the media, now all verbose with such good news is so obvious. What ever the source of this undercurrent of darkness really is, I call it the destroyer, will be captured and placed back into its locked cage.

    Christians have started to rise up, stand and speak. No longer will we tolerate in silence the atrocities of those out to destroy the good. The good will ALWAYS win. And Obama is finished with his much publicised sick ideas and totally ignorant antics. His contempt for the office of the President, and the People of the U.S.A., and all people will be done in private after this election, and the world will no longer be subjected to his morally degrading, condescending thinking. Obama is the perfect example for our young, and maturing populous of what never to become. The nightmare of Obama is over, he will not be relelected, thank you LORD!

    • Santorum ( sorry, but he is completely out of his mind – it, the same thing is with those other candidates like Romney and Gingrich. There are no differences between them and they will loose in general campaign against Obama.
      Ron Paul is the only republican politician, who is normal, who cares about interests of USA and who has chance to win. And certainly, if Ron Paul would be president of USA, it would be better in USA and globally.

  28. I wish we could just stop the hate. All of these candidates are very good people and deserve our respect. I am personally supporting Romney, because I feel that he has the best chance to turn the economy around. He may not be as conservative as Santorum, but at least he will work with all of the Congress and do something to keep our country from bankruptcy. Remember what happens what happens when tea partiers get so stubborn that they won’t give an inch? The Government just about had to shut down.

  29. @American Light: are you sure that Obama isn’t finally picking the country up after 3 years of a do nothing congress? And name one “sick” idea of his. Unless you agree with Romney in that we shouldn’t help the poor. Or Santorum when he said that Newt and Paul are out of touch with Americans because they think the country needs help. Bush forced us into a recession with the war in Iraq, and led to trillions of dollars of debt and an auto industry of needing bailing out. Obama became president at a horrible time, and because of the petty republican need to make him a one term president, he can’t help the country. Romney has the best chance because he’s closer to the middle of the spectrum and can get independant votes. Paul’s too conservative, Santorum doesn’t have enough money (but that may be changing) and Gingrich isn’t the best moral character. So basically, it’ll be Romney v Obama or Santorum v Obama. I don’t think either can beat him.

  30. Daryl, sorry, I meant to say, Colorado wasn’t a run-away victory for Santorum. My fingers don’t always type what my brain thinks.

  31. Dr. Paul would never be Chairman of the Fed… Yes, he would audit it first, but the point is- it is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL organization to begin with! So why would he want to chair it?!
    And maybe it’s just bias on my part, but it’s hard for me to believe anyone has “researched all of the candidates” and not come away firmly believing our country NEEDS more Liberty, NEEDS our Constitution back and the ONLY candidate who will give us that is Ron Paul.
    To say that Santorum or Romney understands and will uphold the Constitution is a joke! Santorum is a warhawk! The wars we are in now are unconstitutional and he can’t wait for more! Paul would only go to war if we are under threat and after approval from Congress. Then go in and win! Not all these sanctions and preemptive strikes and drones and lives lost and trillions of dollars in debt! It’s unconstitutional and it’s making us more and more broke as a country, and as an Air Force wife, I’d like to have my husband home more and know what he’s fighting for!!
    Then of course there’s SOPA which Santorum is a-OK with… And Romney is hunky dorey on that NDAA and the Patriot Act… Yeah people- wake up! Our constitutional freedoms and civil liberties are down the drain with these politicians who have taken oaths to uphold our Constitution and make glowing speeches declaring how they will do it but everything they do shows otherwise!!
    I haven’t even gone on to the monetary issues or to Obama, and I won’t… My finger is tired from pecking on my phone 🙂
    But Ron Paul IS the only clear choice, and the only hope right now… Some people just can’t handle the TRUTH!!!

    • Sorry, but it’s not that some people can’t handle the truth, but rather Sen. Paul doesn’t have the support–yet. Even if Sen. Paul became Pres. Paul, he’d still have to work with Congress. The Legislative power is greater than the Presidential power in that: they control the purse, they make the laws, they declare the wars, and they help keep the other branches in line with the Constitution. It’s only when they fail the American people by not doing their duty in taking action against the other two branches when they go beyond their authority, or they don’t follow the Constitution themselves, that we face all of these problems. So in the meantime, we have to choose based on what the real options are for President. But all of this should be a wake up call to Americans that if we want to preserve the Constitution, we’d better start taking to task our Legislative representatives, and not just saying ONLY the President can fix the mess!

  32. Messenger, when is Obama going to own this economy? His agenda didn’t work. The stimulus (under HIS watch, not Bush’s), neither of them, worked. Obamacare and other regulations are strangling small businesses. The problem with this administration is not a do-nothing Congress, but a Congress that did way too much. We’d have been better off if not a single bill have been passed during the entire Obama time. Obama campaigned on getting our of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, but it took him how long to do it? So he wasn’t the anti-war President he promised to be. He talked the talk, but when it came time to walk the walk, he couldn’t get it done. And what’s with this not submitting budgets? It’s a Constitutional duty.

    • @Marlene, It seems you have Confused President with King. The latest miracle worker we had was Reagan, only because a large number of Democrats helped a lot. Still it took him much more time than Obama has had, and the inheritance were not as severe. Any President depends on Congress they can not Dictate or Order. The executive branch executes legislation that can only come out of Congress. Whether the stimulus worked or not depends on your expectations. It prevented many states from going under and laying off thousands of government employees. The auto industry is not complaining and the financial sector became stable. It has had some shortfalls as well. ObamaCare has not done anything yet other than accelerate the increases in premiums which were previously planed by the insurance Sector. As far as electoral promises go, it sounds naive for anyone to take them literal. The Commander in Chief signed the order to plan and execute a military withdraw of troops the day he took office (it was on TV). The Generals on the ground took all this time. The president can say he will use everything in his power to do this or that, which actually means to request it from Congress. That’s all.
      I am not a fan of Obama, but I make it a point to be fairly factual instead of repeating the BS atacks from Fox News, and other extremist trolls, who seem to really not care about the truth nor our country.

  33. Rick Santorum is a “Counterfeit” Conservative. His RECORD says it all. He’s an ARROGANT Corrupt BIG Government Washington-Corporate Lobbyist Millionaire who “hides behind” the Shields of Religion and Morality. He’s just another Serial Hypocrite and a Tea Party “Phony”!

    He Voted to RAISE the Debt Ceiling 5 Times AFTER “promising” a Balanced Budget Amendment. The result? The Budget Deficit GREW $1.26 TRILLION.

    He Voted AGAINST the “Right to Work” Act

    He supported the TRILLION DOLLAR Expenditures of Medicare Part D

    He Voted to FUND Planned Parenthood

    He supports the UNCONSTITUTIONAL Legislation called SOPA which gives the Government POWER to curtail the First Amendment Freedom of Speech. (Maybe he would support “Book Burning”, too)

    He supported Tort Reform in 1995 to cap Medical Malpractice Pay-Outs at 250K, but after his wife got hurt in an accident, he stood behind his wife suing her Chiropractor for 500K.

    He sided with the BIG Drug Companies to PREVENT Seniors from buying lower cost Generic Drugs – only to increase the Profits of BIG Pharma

    He received a D+ on his Tax Plan from the National Conservative Review “Tax Foundation”.

    He hasn’t a CLUE on the Monetary System, Inflation or the Economy.

    Rick Santorum has NOT served in the Military, and yet he wants to send OUR Children into the Middle East to Fight UNCONSTITUTIONAL “undeclared” Wars of Aggression.

    Rick Santorum has (and will) BETRAYED Our Nation and YOU!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Aohgrn1peA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TVoVqvt74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqDVTdei30&feature=fvwp&NR=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6a10UuQFOM&feature=autoplay&list=PL05BC1D336A21A04D&lf=results_main&playnext=1

    • @ Darryl: Excellent Job enumerating the record. However there are some reasons to each stand. I do not think he’s neither perfect nor good, but sometimes there is a real good reason for anyone’s stand on an issue. Let me try.

      1.”He Voted to RAISE the Debt Ceiling 5 Times…” A single legislator or a 100 of them can try to present a balanced budget, but the majority of both houses must approve it. If they do not raise the Debt limit after failing to balance the budget, that would send us in to a inflation cycle because the Feds still have to print money without increasing the reserve, which depreciates even more the value of our dollar and making the rest of the world not use our currency for trade which would depreciate its value even more. Nobody who really understands how currency is manipulated can be for not raising the limit without balancing the budget.

      2.”AGAINST the “Right to Work” Act.” His state was not a right to work state, and he was the representative of that state. Should he really not represent what his state stands for? Although he now says that personally he is For it, not against right to work.

      3. Part D was well overdue. It was used as a bribe for Dems and seniors, I suspect in exchange for other benefits that helped Bush in some other way.

      4.”To FUND Planned Parenthood” PP provides a low or no cost service to the most needy; those who cannot qualify for Medicaid and cannot afford Insurance. Early diagnostic of breast cancer, as well as birth control which prevents more abortions. Many people who are not religious fanatics or extremist support this, regardless of where you stand on abortion.

      5. SOPA, Intellectual Property Rights are hard to enforce, the music, film and even software industries have been shrinking because of file trading. SOPA was a bad choice. But that does not mean those industries are not shrinking under assault, and are trying to defend themselves not only from file share, but from pirates that benefit from copying files, violating the investment and production of those industries. Eventually the big great movies, the great Bands and hard struggling very talented artists and writers will not be discovered, produced and much of the talent will be wasted or never discovered.

      6. Tort Reform. Damn if you do, Damn if you don’t. The attempt to CAP malpractice law suits, is a bad effort to prevent richer lawyers, and faster rising Malpractice Insurance Premiums which doctors have to pay in order to receive Insurance Covered Patients, which then is another reason why the cost of healthcare keeps rising, We are in a jam, and not doing nothing about it will eventually be worst. Insurance Companies which are mostly multinationals are sucking us dry from both ends.

      7. Big pharma vs generic. Hmmm, similar as with SOPA. If the property rights and ability of these pharma companies are not protected, will they keep investing in developing new drugs? Are generic drugs as effective? In some cases they come close and might not be worth the premium cost, but the danger of losing a large chunk of the earnings, might endanger future developments.

      8. D+ from Tax Foundation? And whose interest does this group defend or represent?

      9. Some people will agree or not depending on their own interest.

      Now, after timidly and apparently defending his positions, I’ll tell you why I believe he is the worst choice.
      a.He is a bully; he stands against people’s rights to choose. 1a. the government has no saying in a women’s right to choose. ab. The government should provide equal status to any group including gays and lesbians, or any minorities. Not special privileges but equality under the law.

      b)He is against our inalienable rights. GOD gave us free will, including the right to sin. He warned us about the consequences but still allowed us to choose how to lead our own lives. Social engineering from any side is wrong. The answer should be education.

      c) War Monger. He wants to continue American Interventionism in the world. The same as our own individual rights, they apply to the whole world. The rest of the world too has the right to choose. GOD did not give only the US these rights. They apply to all mankind. The world does not have to do what’s in our corporation’s best interest. They have the right to oppose us; we should not go to war because we don’t agree with them. We could earn their respect and likeliness when we build a better society for ourselves, as we once had.

  34. Just saw this of Ron Paul — what an apodictic statement!

    “Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country” — Ron Paul, Speech at CPAC 2011

  35. This is a surprise to me. I am a Mitt Romney fan and I congratulate Santorum and his surge in the polls but let’s be realistic, who really does have the best chance at beating Obama? the Republican party will back the nominee and the Democratic base will back Barack Obama. It will be decided by the independents and Romney can appeal to the political center, Santorum can not.

    • Reagan was much more Conservative than Romney or Santorum, and he won the support of Dems as well. The problem is that Romney does not even convince his own party. If you want to elect who can win even if he does not represent your views, why change who is there already? You have to admit it’s a weak argument. Changing the party only is like changing shirts.
      What really amazed me about Romney was that in the state where he was the governor and inside the party that got him there, they voted anyone but him. I guess he is not liked at all even in his own party. Maybe those of us who don’t live in Michigan do not know anything about what he really did. He seems to not be welcomed there.

      • Little confused by your post. Romney was governor of Massachusetts and he had a Democratic legislature to work with. He worked with the legislature to add and change fees to add revenue to the budget. This helped to put the state in the black by about a 1.2 billion. He wanted to reduce state income tax to 5%, legislature wouldn’t go for it. Instead they wanted to use over 400 million of the rainy fund (the savings accumulated) because they over-budgeted. He said no, they said yes, and re-voted to get what they wanted. Romney went into office trying to keep his personal view about abortion about of politics until they wanted him to sign a bill that would create embryos to destroy them. Then he knew he had to make it clear that he was not in favor of abortion. Some have called this flip-flopping. I strongly disagree–the way I see it, he was okay (since it is the law) with people making their own choice about whether they wanted an abortion since that’s their conscience they have to deal with, but he was not okay when it would become his conscience to deal with in putting his ‘John Hancock’ on a bill to kill innocent life. After that incident he made it very clear he was pro-life and governed as such. He tried to separate his beliefs and personal conviction from others’ beliefs since he was not just representing one group in society; however, he found it didn’t work.

        • amazed

          Sorry. But I don’t buy it. Romney stated that he would continue to support Roe v Wade and the woman’s right to choose when he was running for Governor. He made that statement openly and publicly. It’s a shame because he’s an intelligent guy. He should have approached the Abortion Debate like this:

          ABORTION is not complex. In fact, it is quite simple to resolve. The MAIN issue, regarding Abortion, are the Answers to 2 simple questions…

          1.) What is IT?

          2.) Can I kill IT?

          The answers to those 2 simple questions will TRUMP all other considerations in the Abortion Debate.

          For example:

          Just suppose that you have a 5 year old. Now, one day, you are standing at the kitchen sink washing dishes. And out of nowhere, your 5 year old comes up behind you and asks Mommy (or Daddy) – Can I “kill” this?

          Now your back is turned and you are washing dishes. What would be the first question you would ask? INSTINCTIVELY?

          My guess is that you would ask the question, “What is IT?” Right?

          It is the “IT” that is what is in question here.

          If “IT” is a cockroach, you probably wouldn’t have much of an objection to killing “IT”.

          If “IT” is the neighbors kitty, you probably would have an objection to killing “IT”.

          AND If “IT” is a defenseless and totally innocent Human Being, you probably and definitely would have an objection to killing “IT”.

          By this example, the Answer to the question (Can I kill IT?) Depends upon the answer to a “Predicate” question. (What is IT?)

          Everyone, in the Abortion Debate AGREES that abortion “kills” something. Both sides agree on that. But whether or not it is “Right” to take the Life of any living thing depends entirely on WHAT that “thing” is that is in question.

          • That’s okay. You don’t have to buy it. Nonetheless, he stated that he thought he could walk that fine line between what he personally believed vs. what the law stated was okay. He found he couldn’t in clear conscience do that when it came time to sign his own name to legislation he did not support. He absolutely was pro-life as a matter of personal belief and choice. Are you saying that just because he said he supported Roe vs Wade, since it was the law that he should have voted to destroy the embryos even though he didn’t believe that was right? I am hoping that reason would tell you, no.

            • amazed

              No. I’m not saying that at all. What I said was that he already stated (openly and publicly) that he supported Roe v Wade and a woman’s right to choose. He even “promised” Massachusetts Voters, that as Governor he would “protect” these rights. I do believe he said that for Political Expediency, but he shouldn’t have said it. Moreover, if he was truly against abortion at that time then he should of tactfully used the argument which I wrote in the prior post.

              It’s quite confusing when Public Officials say “Even though I support elective abortion, Roe v Wade and a woman’s right to choose, I’m “personally” opposed abortion.” Mitt Romney could have “repented” on his Pro-Choice stance, but perhaps this is what you’re interpreting from what Mitt Romney has said. Either way, Conservatives will interpret this as “Flip-Flopping” and NOT truly meaning what he says.

            • Darryl, glad to hear that was not what you were saying. Had me worried for a moment there. 🙂

              I think your previous argument simplifies the issue quite well. Great points. Although, language is a powerful mechanism in the thought processes. At one time, what was growing inside a woman was always referred to as ‘a baby.’ Now we’ve got technical terms, fetus, embryo, which in my opinion are terms meant to sterilize from our minds, it is a baby. Now, to people who still see it as a baby, it doesn’t matter what you call it–it’s still a baby. But I’m not so sure about others. There’s an interesting pro-choice video made by a teen on youtube and in it the teen states that they (teens who are pro-choice) will not be swayed by graphic pictures of abortions. Clearly, the graphic pictures make no connection to ‘life’ and a ‘baby’ for this teen.

              I don’t think there would have been any tactful way to go about it. People who are pro-choice think differently about the value of an unborn baby’s life. And you’re either on their side or against them.

              I do believe (and you may still disagree), that Gov. Romney did indeed think he had some obligation to support the law that was already in place, when he was campaigning since it was the law. (Although it is an un-Constitutional ‘law’ since it is a statute written by the Supreme Court and they have NO authority to make laws. They can only execute laws which are in place.)

              Just like when Sen. Santorum voted against Right to Work because he represented a non-Right to Work state (and he’s been ‘questioned’ and called a flip flopper about that too). I’m not equating the two, but I am saying that sometimes what may seem a cut and dry decision to one person, for reasons not entirely known, it may be not so definitive to someone else. Gov. Romney realized he could not support abortion when he knew he literally would be adding to the destruction of innocent life by signing that bill. I think it was epiphany moment for him. I can respect that far more than if he had signed the bill because he campaigned ‘pro-choice’, as you say, and people were ‘expecting’ him to support its passage. And I am SO SURE it would be used against him if he had signed it. I think that on this issue in particular, since it is about life, people who would nail him to the wall as a flip flopper when he made the right ethical decision are simply looking for an excuse to dismiss him as a candidate.

  36. I am 100% sure the votes have been computer altered. NFW Ron Paul has done so poor. Exit polls don’t lie but DieBold counted votes do!
    Folks the fix is in. It will be 4 more years of Obama.
    Strap yourself in for the ride of your life.
    Hyper inflation, rioting, energy bottleneck, foods bottleneck. It will go down like an Ayan Rand Novel!
    End game – Slavery under a one world corporate/communist government.

    We will have a short window to stop this. Will you Mr and Mrs Sheep put down your I pad long enough to revolt?
    The American Revolution was won by only 3% participation. I see this time about the same. Better start by replacing the entire Congress and Senate. If not then better move somewhere else.

    If you did not vote for Ron Paul then you will get exactly what you deserve. You sheep got it with Obama and you still don’t get it!
    Charger John

    • AGREED Charger JOhn!!!
      There is NO WAY RP did this poorly. NO WAY!!!
      Here in Texas, if someone has any political interest at this stage, their interest lies with Ronny P. Unfortunately, there are too many folks who are not even considering a candidate at this point.

  37. Wow. This must really hurt Romney and Gingrich’s campaigns. @Tanner You’re 100% correct that based only on the positions, Romney has the clear advantage. However, the first question is: can Romney win the republican nomination. Right now he’s in the lead but he should be wary of Gingrich and now Santorum. If Romney does win the nomination, can he beat Obama? He’ll definitely take hits for “flip-flopping” on many issues.

  38. Darryl, glad to hear that was not what you were saying. Had me worried for a moment there. 🙂

    I think your previous argument simplifies the issue quite well. Great points. Although, language is a powerful mechanism in the thought processes. At one time, what was growing inside a woman was always referred to as ‘a baby.’ Now we’ve got technical terms, fetus, embryo, which in my opinion are terms meant to sterilize from our minds, it is a baby. Now, to people who still see it as a baby, it doesn’t matter what you call it–it’s still a baby. But I’m not so sure about others. There’s an interesting pro-choice video made by a teen on youtube and in it the teen states that they (teens who are pro-choice) will not be swayed by graphic pictures of abortions. Clearly, the graphic pictures make no connection to ‘life’ and a ‘baby’ for this teen.

    I don’t think there would have been any tactful way to go about it. People who are pro-choice think differently about the value of an unborn baby’s life. And you’re either on their side or against them.

    I do believe (and you may still disagree), that Gov. Romney did indeed think he had some obligation to support the law that was already in place, when he was campaigning since it was the law. (Although it is an un-Constitutional ‘law’ since it is a statute written by the Supreme Court and they have NO authority to make laws. They can only execute laws which are in place.)

    Just like when Sen. Santorum voted against Right to Work because he represented a non-Right to Work state (and he’s been ‘questioned’ and called a flip flopper about that too). I’m not equating the two, but I am saying that sometimes what may seem a cut and dry decision to one person, for reasons not entirely known, it may be not so definitive to someone else. Gov. Romney realized he could not support abortion when he knew he literally would be adding to the destruction of innocent life by signing that bill. I think it was epiphany moment for him. I can respect that far more than if he had signed the bill because he campaigned ‘pro-choice’, as you say, and people were ‘expecting’ him to support its passage. And I am SO SURE it would be used against him if he had signed it. I think that on this issue in particular, since it is about life, people who would nail him to the wall as a flip flopper when he made the right ethical decision are simply looking for an excuse to dismiss him as a candidate.

    • amazed

      As I said, Mitt Romney may have “repented” on his Pro-Choice stance. I’m not taking that away from him. However, his “epiphany” (or testimony) has never been explained in detail. To simply say “I was, but I’m not anymore” simply doesn’t do it. And to “not sign a bill” is also not adequate enough to explain the change-of-mind. Once a person takes that “stand” to support the killing of innocent human life via abortion, that person enters into a spider-web of controversy. Sometimes supporting abortion can stem from living a life of callousness which will negate any other options (like your teen video), but most times it is out of Ignorance or because of desperate situations which come from panic.

      As to your teen in the video (and as I tell people), Graphic Pictures ARE appropriate, as long as the pictures are TRUE. And if they are TRUE, then I believe they should be admitted as EVIDENCE. And in the quest, for the “Socratic Quest” for TRUTH, none of the EVIDENCE should be “filtered” simply because we may find it “personally” repugnant. So, if something is so HORRIBLE that we can’t stand to look at it, perhaps WE SHOULD NOT BE “TOLERATING” IT.

      Sadly, the Liberal Media is who DICTATES the “Morality” in this Country, especially on TV. They know (all-to-well) that the public, in general, is just “INTELLECTUALLY LAZY”!

      • Sorry for the duplicate, it looks like I posted it in the wrong place.

        “As I said, Mitt Romney may have “repented” on his Pro-Choice stance. I’m not taking that away from him. However, his “epiphany” (or testimony) has never been explained in detail. To simply say “I was, but I’m not anymore” simply doesn’t do it. And to “not sign a bill” is also not adequate enough to explain the change-of-mind.”

        Darryl, actually he did explain his ‘change’ during one of the January debates, and personally, I was satisfied with his answer. I don’t know if you saw that particular debate, and if you did it must still not have settled well with you. That’s okay. It did for me.

        You bring up many compelling and strong arguments for pro-life, and for that I am grateful since we obviously need that in society. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it.

        “Graphic Pictures ARE appropriate, as long as the pictures are TRUE. And if they are TRUE, then I believe they should be admitted as EVIDENCE. And in the quest, for the “Socratic Quest” for TRUTH, none of the EVIDENCE should be “filtered” simply because we may find it “personally” repugnant. So, if something is so HORRIBLE that we can’t stand to look at it, perhaps WE SHOULD NOT BE “TOLERATING” IT. Sadly, the Liberal Media is who DICTATES the “Morality” in this Country, especially on TV.”

        I couldn’t agree with you more! I thought the young woman’s video showed very shallow thinking. She said she wanted the truth, but in reality, she showed anything but that desire.

        As for my family, we don’t support TV (don’t have cable, etc.), or many forms of entertainment because we find them morally reprehensible. We watch videos, occasionally go to the movies, and play video games only if the content and message are appropriate. The liberal media, as you say, may dictate what is out there–but our family doesn’t have to view it, promote it, or support it. As a parent I have that obligation and responsibility to make that decision, it’s only when parents abdicate, well….I think it’s obvious what the results are. (And the young woman who made her video is at the top of my list of examples.)

  39. As happy as I am that the 2 morons (Newt and Romney) didn’t win, I wish the right wing extremest hadn’t won. Ron Paul should have won all of these by a long shot. I am with all the other posts about voter fraud against Paul. People get a grip on yourself. you only have one option for president, Ron Paul. Mitt is a true politician, he changes what he stands for based on what he wants to win. Also, although a lot of people have disregarded his religion, research it deeply. Mormonism is NOT christianity. Contrary to the main websites, they do have multiple wives. Just research deeper than most obviously have. They do not believe in God, their god is completely different. Newt is not a leader, he is a failure. He was booted out of the house and has archived nothing in his life. When he talks about his accomplishments, he talks about what happened while he was in politics not what he did. Listen folks. Just an aside, I understand that not all marriages work out and we make mistakes. Newt is on his what 3rd marriage. That shows he cannot even keep a promise as simple as only loving your wife. Rick, although the second option for the GOP, is an extremist. He is stuck in the bully days. He thinks you can make people do what you want by force. Yeah you can for a while, but look what happens to people like that in history. They get crushed. He comes across as a typical extreme conservative. (change is bad! That aint how my daddys daddys daddys daddy did it so it is wrong) this is awful politics and an awful way of life. Rick, Newt, and Mitt need to leave. Ron Paul is the best and only option. He wants to uphold the constitution. He wants little government. He wants little to no taxes(which i remind you, the excessive taxes is the reason America was created). Some of the radical changes that Paul wants are quite extreme but if one sits back and thinks, it will make the country better. I hope people start thinking for themselves and stop letting the media make your decisions for you. Be an individual and vote RON PAUL.

    • Your lack of real research negates any legitimacy your argument may have had. I ran into blatantly false material a few sentences in and didn’t bother to read the rest.

      • I agree. I’m sorry, Zac, but you are either insulting our intelligence or yours. I’m glad you like Ron Paul, he’s definitely is a good candidate, but you should really research your info before you go slamming others. Also, it does not reflect well on Ron Paul to say such things.

        One particular glaring falsehood is about Mormons having more than one wife. There are people who may apostatize and are excommunicated from the Mormon Church by having more than one wife–but they are absolutely NOT members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; and I know enough Mormons and enough about history, current and past, to definitely state that as a fact.

        Also, the issue wasn’t ‘paying taxes’ for the colonists, but rather a matter of representation. They had their own colonial legislatures in America who had the recognized authority to levy taxes; however, the colonists did not feel that it was right for Parliament to tax them since their were no colonial representatives in that body of legislature.

        • I thought I’d better restate my point about polygamy in the Mormon Church, lest my comment be read as my not knowing that polygamy was once practiced in the Mormon Church; however, it has not been practiced in over 100 years.

  40. Seriously folks, who do you REALLY think can go toe to toe against the icy cool persona that is Obama? Santantrum? Gingrich? Both have bouts of anger while Newt has the baggage his daughter is older than his wife. Forget Ron Paul, seriously. Mitt ‘the Vulcan’ Romney is the only one who can go to the debate, eat Obama’s lunch and make him clean the table afterwords. Mitt is the man, deal with it and try to remember it when you’re making more $ in 2013.

  41. Whole bunch of very difficult issues to tackle. Romney’s previous stance on abortion is similar to my own. Although I am a very spiritual person, with a good relation with God, I distrust and dislike most religious organizations.
    I never met anyone who did not think that a abortion was the killing of a baby. Yes most will say unborn or fetus, etc, to be able to cope with the hardest decision they will ever make. And knowingly accept to carry that burden for the rest of their life, many will regret it, some will repent, some find other ways to try to comfort themselves, but none take it lightly or well.
    A friend of mine had an abortion in her late teens, I remember when she approached me, suspecting being pregnant, she was very upset, scared, confused, and hurt. I was 20yo and I was raising 2 kids already with the mother and no parents to help. I believed Abortion was a criminal act of killing a baby, immoral, and inhumane. But also how hard it was to give up on many dreams. The doubts and fears of most parents of our age. I would never judge her no matter what she decided. It was ILLEGAL in south America, it was done in a small office after hours. She almost dies from bleeding after several days in the hospital. Until recently she still counted that baby as her first child 25 years later as she lights a candle for that baby each anniversary. Some others will not ever admit it openly because of being too ashamed. But I do not believe it’s easy on anyone.
    However final judgement is for GOD, not of men. The churches or religious organizations, who believe to represent God, are not Gods, they are men. The churches have been wrong too many times in the past, and has showed many times to commit many kind of barbaric abuses even today. I am a strong believer in God, but not the organizations who believe to represent him.
    Similar as with Government, I believe in our Constitution, and the Institution but not in bureaucrats or politicians.
    I am against abortion and will tell any who asks me, but only a woman has the right to choose..
    The government does not have the right to force on any individual its moral believes, nor the moral believes of any majority.

    • Steve L

      I understand how you can come to your conclusion on abortion, however, you left out some important factors that would turn your conclusion to an “about-face”.

      First is the abortion “act” itself. Probably the most important factor you’re leaving out is that the abortion “act” involves 2 distinct individual human beings – the mother and the developing Human Being within her womb. To say it’s only the mother’s CHOICE to kill her offspring is to assume that the developing human being within her womb is NOT Fully Human.

      Scientifically and Biologically speaking – we are FULLY HUMAN from the point of CONCEPTION. We then continue in an unbroken continuum until natural death. This pro-life position has been proven to be both scientifically and philosophically “sound”. In other words, the zygote, embryo, fetus, infant, baby, toddler, adolescent, adult, senior adult are ALL “Stages-of-Development” of the Human Species that should deserve protection under the Law.

      Second is the “Legislating Morality” Debate. Pro-Choice folks tend to use this argument when defending abortion saying that the State shouldn’t legislate Morality. Well, the State legislates against Murder, Rape and Child Abuse – don’t they? In essence, the State is saying that it’s Morally WRONG to commit these crimes. From the pro-life perspective, the only difference from these crimes and abortion is that the Developing Human Being resides within the womb of another Human Being. However, that doesn’t make that Human Being “any less” Human.

      There is another way to look at it. When Doctors perform surgery on a Human Fetus while yet in the womb, does that EFFECT it’s Personhood? When the Doctor removes the Fetus to perform the surgery, and then puts it back in the womb, does it become a “person”, then revert back to being a “non-person” again? So what are the doctors then operating on? A WATERMELON ???

      Third is the “use of force” debate when it comes to abortion. Pro-Choice people will say that the State has NO Right to “force” MORALITY on it’s people. When people say this, my question for them is always this: “Do you think that the mother, who is having the abortion, is putting a Moral “Perspective” on her Unborn offspring?”

      Usually they answer NO. They sometimes say: “You are ASSUMING that the Unborn Offspring are Human Beings, like everyone else is.” My reply is: “and you are ASSUMING that they are not”.

      You’re right in saying that “having an abortion” is “hardest decision” a woman will ever make. But that statement alone should draw a pause as we think about it. Could it be that Abortion ENDS the LIFE of a completely innocent and defenseless Human Being? And with that said, could there be other “Options” other than killing it?

    • Steve L, thank you for sharing you POV. I can see that this is a subject you have thought about very deeply and have been affected in a personal way by it. I can understand how you might feel that way. However, I do believe the argument that the state has to in some instances ‘force’ as you say it’s moral stance on others for the common good, protection, and safety of society. When the law sanctions behavior whether good or ill there is an impact on society. We’ve already seen the proliferation of violence in the media through all forms of entertainment in the past 30+ years. I think when society can take the most precious connection between two human beings (that being a mother and her off-spring) and give the mother license to destroy her unborn the elements of Pandora’s box are unleashed. Consequently, with each passing year, the rising generation becomes even more desensitized than the previous generation.

      That’s my point of view and I’m not saying you (or anyone) has to agree with me.

  42. “As I said, Mitt Romney may have “repented” on his Pro-Choice stance. I’m not taking that away from him. However, his “epiphany” (or testimony) has never been explained in detail. To simply say “I was, but I’m not anymore” simply doesn’t do it. And to “not sign a bill” is also not adequate enough to explain the change-of-mind.”

    Darryl, actually he did explain his ‘change’ during one of the January debates, and personally, I was satisfied with his answer. I don’t know if you saw that particular debate, and if you did it must still not have settled well with you. That’s okay. It did for me.

    You bring up many compelling and strong arguments for pro-life, and for that I am grateful since we obviously need that in society. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it.

    “Graphic Pictures ARE appropriate, as long as the pictures are TRUE. And if they are TRUE, then I believe they should be admitted as EVIDENCE. And in the quest, for the “Socratic Quest” for TRUTH, none of the EVIDENCE should be “filtered” simply because we may find it “personally” repugnant. So, if something is so HORRIBLE that we can’t stand to look at it, perhaps WE SHOULD NOT BE “TOLERATING” IT. Sadly, the Liberal Media is who DICTATES the “Morality” in this Country, especially on TV.”

    I couldn’t agree with you more! I thought the young woman’s video showed very shallow thinking. She said she wanted the truth, but in reality, she showed anything but that desire.

    As for my family, we don’t support TV (don’t have cable, etc.), or many forms of entertainment because we find them morally reprehensible. We watch videos, occasionally go to the movies, and play video games only if the content and message are appropriate. The liberal media, as you say, may dictate what is out there–but our family doesn’t have to view it, promote it, or support it. As a parent I have that obligation and responsibility to make that decision, it’s only when parents abdicate, well….I think it’s obvious what the results are. (And the young woman who made her video is at the top of my list of examples.)

  43. What people don’t understand about Ron Paul is that is political philosophy is cohesive and consistent. He does not waver even a little because it would undermine and unravel his stance on everything. Foreign policy, domestic policy, and economic policy are ONE and the SAME.

    We have been brainwashed for so many decades into the ‘piecemeal’ approach to leadership that we do not recognize the correctness and soundness of Dr. Paul’s approach, one of consistency and lack of compromise.

    As a nation we have been led to believe that government holds the solutions, and not our own self-reliance and ingenuity. WE CAN solve our own problems by getting up off our duffs, putting down the remote and the cell phone and actually working together to create a free society which automatically creates a sound economy. Prosperity and liberty go hand in hand. Ron Paul is the only choice if we are to preserve our republic.

    • Ron Paul is correct and sound and consistent. Unfortunately he doesn’t know how to work with people. With him as president we’d only be in gridlock and end up accomplishing nothing.
      Governing a country is all about compromising for the best good. Not compromising sound values, mind you, but compromising just the same. The problem happens when you get liberals in there and twist things up. I’ve seen Republicans get in there and do idiotic things too. We need someone with economic know how, sound principles, who promotes small government and self accountability, who loves freedom and his country and knows how to be an executive – and that’s Gov. Romney.
      I just hope we can undo all the damage done in the Obama era!

  44. Bama’s worst nightmare would be debating Ron Paul (without a tele-prompter Bama can hardly put two coherent statements together, let alone an unscripted hour+ debate)!

    Ron Paul’s Constitutional knowledge, accurate historical data, superior by ten fold intellect, and good nature as a genuine caring person — even though not an orator (RP) — will by SUBSTANCE destroy the small-minded narcissistic Bama’s empty Rhetoric and the Bankrupt Socialist Dogma he spews in ANGER when “displeased”!

    Bama had some worries in debating Newt (the two can out-lie each other, on any given occasion). But now that Newt is nearly done — Bama is happy.

    Bama is on top of the world NOW — since his reelection is about to be GUARANTEED by the GOP’s choice to do whatever it takes (legal or illegal) for tepid Mitt to challenge him (Romney-Money is what the out-of-touch GOP hopes may counter Bama’s billion dollars campaign)!

    This will be the best outcome for Bama — to face flip-flopping Romney (since Bama can make Mitt turn any way he wants…after all Mitt stands for everything (and nothing)…depending on the audience)! Bama’s writers have already scripted what Bama needs to remember, so he can rip Mitt apart on Bain Capital and Cayman Islands accounts!

    Prediction: Bama wins by virtue of GOP’s idiocy!

  45. It is estimated that nearly 500,000,000 as of 2010 — about 1/2 billion — NEGATIVE Laws are on the books, meaning: “You, the US Citizen, cannot do 1/2 billion things, because we, the Government, have deemed such actions to be contrary to your well-being.”

    In other words: “If you don’t do what we think is for YOUR OWN GOOD, we have approved 1/2 billion ways to punish you!”

    More Laws (about 500,000,000) telling individuals what NOT to DO, than the total count of all the US Citizens alive (about 312,000,000)!

    The Arrogance of Office is best displayed by this pernicious Sophism: “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse”.

    No sane person can expect an individual to memorize all the names of the 312 million US Citizens — but same individual is expected to know the EXACTITUDE of ALL 1/2 billion LAWS (or be penalized for the IGNORANCE)?!

    Only Ron Paul has questioned this EVER increasing “Law” passing — the rest are mute (seems they lack the education to comprehend the truth the Great Roman Statesman Cicero stated: ‘The MORE Laws in a Nation, the LESS Justice for the Citizens’ — nearly 2000 years later, Cicero’s warning rings true: *More Laws = Less Liberty*)!

    No wonder the main media is doing their best to black-out Ron Paul — Truth is Bane for Big Brother wannabees.

  46. America – As a frequent international traveller, non-voter but keen observer I thought you might be interested in a view from afar of the current ‘circus’. The single most discussed point on the republican nomination process is just how bad the candidates (including Cain, Bachmann, Perry et al) actually are and just how much fun Obama must be having watching the pure and unadulterated insanity that is the republican selection process. On the candidates, while Ron Paul is playing the eccentric professor, he’s obviously un-electable given he seems to want to dismantle the US to 50 separate autonomous countries. Newt Gingrich is the most surprising of the candidates still left with his appalling personal history and his staggeringly hypocritical diatribe on family and personal values. Santorum could only exist in America, he’d be laughed off stage from Iceland to Botswana on every issue from ‘trust in god’ to sensible trade policy. Although most people overseas still think that if November is not to be a complete bloodbath for the republicans, a new voice has to come from somewhere (Bobby J?), Romney is the only relatively sane option you have. Obama will (and in all honesty, should for the betterment of America, wipe the floor with Romney) win easily anyway so what amazes outside observers is that a majority of Americans seemingly can’t see this.
    But for the sheer entertainment value the rest of the developed and sane world is absolutely horrified at even the possibility that one of the last four standing might become the most powerful man in the world. The race is currently internal within the US, just wait and see how much support Obama will get from Cameron to Gillard, from Putin to Merkal if there is the slightest chance any of these crazies even looking like they might get up.

    • The president of the united states is NOT the most powerful man in the world. Secondly, I really advise you to research Ron Paul’s ideas and also the history of the world/country and you will start seeing the light my friend. Also, do some research on the founding fathers of this country and you will start to understand what it really means to be FREE, and the real meaning of SECURITY. Learn what the founding fathers have got involved with to save the country and also learn WHAT THEY DIDNT GET INVOLVED IN to save the country. Every wise person knows that you can’t fight fire with fire… this is what our poor leaders are doing today. For example: printing more and more money to save our financial system. Understand this and learn about Ron Paul and you will truly love this country again. Cause deep down inside you dont. In 08′ I was an Obama believer… but only because i was confused. I didnt know what true freedom and true change was.

  47. Larry

    So if the president of the United States is not the most powerful man in the world, who is?
    On Ron Paul, have read a lot of material on and by him and have to say from an intellectual point of view He’s certainly the smartest of the bunch. That said and why I don’t believe he’s electable are his libertarian views in general and his ideas of the dismantlement of central government specifically. The notion that citizens should be allowed to do to themselves (drugs) whatever they want and it be legal will never fly in the US in a million years. That said, with the US having some 60+% of its prison population incarcerated as a consequence of drugs does prove that the current system isn’t working either.
    On the founding fathers, I think this is a uniquely American thing in that I can’t think of another country anywhere that clings so tightly (and interprets so wildly differently) to a mandate written so long ago when the world was such a different place. The question most non Americans always ask is ‘how can they still feel it’s a viable option to depend on a framework from over 200 hundred years ago”? And what is ‘free’ and how do you define being ‘secure’? Nobody outside of third world or abjectly corrupt eastern European countries has any comprehension about security being found through a majority of the population being armed to the teeth, it’s totally insane? The single most basic freedom is to be free from fear. How can Americans be free if you have to lock yourselves in your cars, can’t go out at night without at least being aware of what’s happening around you and having Republicans suggesting an AK47 should be on sale to kids in sweet stores? Bonkers and dangerous with no concept of society, NOT free.
    On printing money, the US’s failure to regulate its financial institutions was the cause of the GFC. Packaged up dud mortgages sold with AAA credit ratings by corrupt and greedy bankers (of whom how many are in prison? NONE). The US has to print (or borrow from China) or free market capitalism would collapse. That three of the four candidates (Dr Paul is at least honest about it) suggest the current fiscal situation in the US is Obama’s fault is staggeringly ludicrous! That they are standing on a platform to once again de-regulate the very same institutions that caused the carnage in the first place is beyond comprehension to any sane person, surely?
    That Obama sold the hope of a quick fix is a consequence of modern politics; it’s the same the world over. Whether it’s right or not is difficult to judge as under McCain and Palin (what was McCain thinking and do Americans really take her seriously? ) the economic situation would have been catastrophic and the US would have by now initiated yet another pointless war with Iran.
    Don’t get me wrong, America is still a great country with great people who are hardworking and sensible, funny and sincere but the rise of the ultra-right religious folks and their dominance in current US politics is truly frightening. The notion that the founding fathers meant its every man for himself is out-dated and unsustainable. If Romney, Santorum, Paul or Gingrich unseat Obama America will be in real trouble.

    • I probably shouldn’t bother asking, but just what do you think President Obama is doing and will be able to do in the next four years that no one else in the GOP can do?

      And, BTW, the Founding Fathers would have been classified as far more right-wing in their religiosity than the four current candidates, yet, they somehow managed to found a nation that has been successful for the past 200+ years. The problem is in the truth of the old adage, ‘Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Our Founding Fathers tried to protect the American people from such demise, hence, our Constitution.

      Unfortunately we, as a people, have not lived up to Revolutionary War hero George Nicholas’ belief that, “An enlightened people will never suffer what was established for their security to be perverted to an act of tyranny.” We have not held our political leaders accountable in being true to the Constitution because we have for too long remained constitutionally illiterate!

      President Obama is taking full advantage of that ignorance (as others have done) and is pushing our country further into a socialist nation. We DO NOT NEED a FEDERAL WELFARE STATE with cradle to grave entitlements which will bankrupt us and burden future generations with debt. That is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Do you really understand what our Constitution means? Apparently not, if you can say that it is an outdated mode of controlling our government. The two problems we must solve as a nation are: 1) becoming a constitutionally literate people, and 2) taking back our country by demanding our President and Congress follow the Constitution!!

      The problem is not the religious right–it is the lack of moral fortitude which will continue to destroy our nation. Freedom is founded upon the wise use of moral agency. When people demand freedom but expect to be absolved from natural and unpleasant consequences, true freedom is impossible. The things that the “religious rights” emphasize—abstinence, family, marriage, fidelity, sanctity for life, hard-work (as opposed to perpetual government handouts), fiscal responsibility (yes, I know not all practice this virtue), and service to God and fellowman—are frequently the target of ridicule. Yet, since these values have been replaced with: per-marital sex as a norm, ‘shacking up’ instead of marital commitment, rampant divorce, abortion to avoid responsibility, and a what’s in it for me attitude, American society over the past 50 years has seen a very rapid decline in being a place of security. In the past, there were times and places where people did not lock doors!

      In my opinion, prisons would be far less crowded over drug-use if more families (I know it may seem a quaint organization) were intact. I grew up in a poor, single parent family, I have some experience with the fractured family situation and how it impacts children. If there were two parents in the home with at least one as a primary care-giver there would be more familial stability. Unfortunately, our economy (and out of control spending as a society and government) in many ways certainly makes this hard for many. Yet, my husband I and I are raising our daughters with my primary responsibility being in the home (I work part-time to supplement our income, and believe me more money would be helpful). We don’t take the nice vacations, our kids don’t have cell phone plans and many of the material ‘blings’ that their friends do. But what we have we value far more—and that is time with each other. My daughters have told me so many times (they are teens) that they are so happy they did not have go to daycare!

      Most Americans do not want a government that provides for every need!! The Founding Fathers did not intend for a Federal Government to become so big and become the daddy to everyone. They intended for States to control most things, very few things were delegated to the Federal Government. What we have seen since the Depression has been a raw power grab by the Federal government from the States, (Education, Welfare, EPA regulation, etc., and let’s not forget about the push for Obamacare)!

      We do have a great nation, and it was founded on great principles; we can still have a great nation, but we have to get back to our basics–our founding document, The Constitution of the United States of America, and a greater emphasis on moral behavior which strengthens families wouldn’t hurt either.

  48. to the people that voted for Rick Santorum, do you really know who you voted for , go to Wikipedia.org/Rick Santorum US senate and find the truth, SHOCKING

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