Given the success of the first Huckabee Presidential Forum back on December 3rd, it seems we'll be treated to a second installment running up to the South Carolina primary. Note that this event will be taped during the day on Saturday and aired later Saturday evening on the Huckabee program on Fox News. There will be no live stream or viewing at 8pm ET on the internet. If you miss it we'll have the full video after it airs.
Air Time: Saturday, January 14 at 8pm ET on Fox News
Participants: Romney, Huntsman, Santorum, Gingrich, Perry (Unofficial list)
Ron Paul could not attend.
Press release via FITSNews:
Congressman Tim Scott (R-SC) will join Governor Mike Huckabee for “Huckabee Forum 2: South Carolina Undecided”, featuring GOP Presidential candidates on January 14 at 12 pm at Sottile Theatre, 44 George Street at the College of Charleston. The Forum, which will air on Governor Huckabee’s Fox News Show, will allow undecided voters the opportunity to ask questions of each of the Presidential candidates. Voters can submit their questions by emailing [email protected]
“It is decision time in South Carolina,” said Congressman Scott. “Voters are making their final judgments and will coalesce behind a conservative candidate who will defeat President Obama in November. This Forum will be a tremendous help in making that decision.”
The Forum will begin at 12:00 pm. Doors will open at 10:30 am, with seating on a first-come, first-served basis.
“Our country is ready for a new beginning,” said Congressman Scott. “This Forum gives South Carolina voters the opportunity to actively participate in that process, and make sure we get it right – as we have done in every Presidential election since choosing Ronald Reagan in 1980.”
The first Huckabee forum featured 1-on-1 interviews with each candidate being questioned by 3 state Attorneys General and the response was quite positive. The candidates were forced to elaborate their answers and were not given the the opportunity to duck many questions.
k-bow
Isolationism is what the United States is currently doing to Iran through Sanctions. Sanctions are an "Act of War". Iran is being backed-into-a-corner and it's Economy is being "brought-to-it's-knees". They will eventually fight back with the Help from Russia and China. Iran is NOT Iraq! When they "fight back", it won't be a "cake walk". Many INNOCENT Lives will be lost and Terrorism will flourish. WW3 is right around the corner.
You are not telling me anything I don't already know.
I hope Iran is backed into a corner. Their threat to destroy us is real alright. They are Radical Islam. I close my case. You need to research what they are all about.
"Their threat to destroy us is real alright. They are Radical Islam. I close my case."
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Here is a quote from Bachmann. This same talking point has also been used by other candidates.
"They've stated, as recently as August just before President (Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad came … to the U.N. General Assembly. He said that he wanted to eradicate Israel from the face of the Earth," Bachmann said during the Nov. 22, 2011, CNN debate.
"He has said that if he has a nuclear weapon he will use it to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. He will use it against the United States of America."
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Politifact has determined this to be False. In fact, since being determined as false, you no longer hear this from any candidate.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/nov/23/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-says-iran-has-threatended-launch-/
Give me a break. They called Bachmann's statement false because she used the word bomb. Since Iran claims not to be making a weapon, they for that reason said her whole statement was incorrect and false.
“Robbers are far less dangerous than a well-organized government.” Lyev Tolstoy
(This statement isn’t true now, presently politicians are robbers too.)
While all republican candidates propose to decrease the size of government, only Ron Paul proposes significant cuts, and only his track record is clear on that issue.
Oh my goodness! I had no idea there were so many naive, misguided people in this country! We do not invade countries for the purpose if domination or control of natural resources. I'm pretty sure most people don't understand the level of evil we are up against. The zealots, specifically Muslim extremists, hate us and want to kill as many of us as possible just because we exist. Anyone who doubts that is, in my opinion, a walking victim. We shouldn't live in fear, just awareness.
“We do not invade countries for the purpose if domination or control of natural resources.”
Dear Almighty! Then for what reason do we invade other countries??? But remember that our interests are often in the region or neighboring countries.
Since your Islamo-phobia is out of control, would you tell me how many times Arab (or Muslim) countries have interfered in our affaires and how many times we interfered in their affairs?
And why do you call other people naive when you seem to be the most naive of all???
Let's talk about real naivety.
There is one thing the US has proven in the last 100 years that started right here on our own soil. The more you suppress, oppress, and attack groups of people, the more they will fight back, and the more resentment is garnered towards those oppressors.
Are you one of those people that believes "they hate us because we are free?"
Near the 10th anniversary of 9/11 Afghans were polled, asked if they new why the US was in their country, and 92% of them never heard of 9/11 even after being shown images of the attacks on the twin towers. They were fighting back because were attacking them over the last 10 years.
Even very shortly after the invasion of Iraq due to 9/11, Bush, in a press conference was asked, "What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?" The quote from Bush, "Nothing."
We have killed over 1 million people with a conservative estimate of 25% of those people being innocents, women and children, over the last 10 years between Iraq and Afghanistan, with Afgans not even knowing whey were there, and killing in Iraq over a false premise of how Bush put it, "There has to be some weapons somewhere."
Yeah, they hate us because we are free. It disgusts when I here anyone who truly believes that line anymore and falls for the fear mongering of "They are going to kill us, so give up your liberties, and give us all your money."
The reason the US has to expand it's military strength, now 900+ bases in 130 countries, is to protect from people who actually see the US as tyrannical terrorists.
A world wide fear campaign is the basis of the US government, even on we the people right here in the USA. This is the example we set for the rest of the world in a new millennium.
I think it is far past time this nation grows up.
They hate us because we are free? That is not what I felt about bullies when I grew up. I feared them, afraid I may get hurt by them. I hated them, because of the fear they generated in others which lead to getting people to do what they did not want to do, out of fear. Every bully I knew continued to bully because they enjoyed the power they had. The enjoyed their power until one day they eventually got their butts kicked. Unfortunately, that is what it takes for most bullies to stop their fear campaigns.
This is why the US needs to expand it military and fear campaign so nobody will ever stand up to the bully that is the US government. Unfortunately, it is a perpetuating circumstance that will never allow for peace. Our future generations will see more wars and expansive police states with heavy surveillance, the like of which we have never seen because the US government will have to be watching over it's shoulder for the rest of it's existence.
I feel sorry for my future grandchildren for the world they will be given because the US government refuses to stop being a bully, and the US will not stop being a bully to the rest of the world if everyone keeps blindly believing the fear mongering agenda that is spoon fed to us.
Ron Paul is too old and is showing signs of senility. His thinking is impaired and his judgement is not normal. He should drop out of the race and preserve what dignity he has left which is nil.
Medley708 – The "Abused" Voter
The typical ABUSED "voter", as exemplified here by Medley708, would much rather live in a FAILED economy as long as they get a leader who "appears" strong.
These ABUSED voters are the typical "scared little kids" who NEED a strong "father figure" in the house – even if he's a Drunk ABUSER.
These ABUSED voters cannot stand living in a healthy household with a "traditional, older, more stable" father figure. (Ron Paul)
These voters have been so ABUSED and are acclimated to the ABUSE to the point to where they "cannot understand" a society or economy that is "healthy". Thus, they join the ABUSER mindset and begin to ABUSE Ron Paul publicly.
Ron Paul is WAY TOO "Independent" for their psyches to handle. They would rather a Romney/Newt/Obama who exemplify the strong "father" leader who makes "everything (appear) okay" by "saying stuff" that they need to hear – that everything (will be) OK (even if it's NOT the Truth).
It's all perception as usual.
The INDEPENDENT intellects perceive Ron Paul to be a good leader.
The DEPENDENT "scared" little children perceive Romney/Newt/Obama to be a good leader.
@Darryl. time to grow up and face the facts. Ron Paul is a mental case. He tried 4 years ago and failed. He is even worse now due to age and poor judgement which can be reflected by his large frontal lobe which is where a person performs judgement and can also indicate bi polar disorder. This certainly is the case of Ron Paul. You are backing a freak of nature. Enough said.
Medley708
Wow! Yes. Enough said FROM YOU!
"Ron Paul is a mental case."
Actually, in addressing Congress in 2002 he told exactly where this country was going, where it would be, and how it would happen. See the vid.
"He tried 4 years ago and failed."
So did Romney a one term governor, while Paul has been elected to congress 12 times. And they say Paul is 'unelectable.'
"He is even worse now due to age and poor judgement which can be reflected by his large frontal lobe which is where a person performs judgement and can also indicate bi polar disorder. "
Ron Paul is doing worse now? His support and ranking in the polls have grown by 3 to 5 times what they were 4 years ago.
And you make me laugh asserting Paul is bi-polar based on the appearance of his forehead! Ron Paul is the most consistent when it comes to his views. His views have NEVER changed in the 20 years since he entered politics!
You can't kill an idea whose time has come. The people are rising and beginning to take this country back. A vote for anyone but Paul is a vote to continue to disassemble and repeal the Bill of Rights and the Constitution this country was founded on.
Medley708
You are very late but welcome to school!
It appears there are some conservatives who believe as I do – that we cannot afford to withdraw from international politics and once again play by a set of rules which would have spelled doom for our country in WWII!
Im referring to the theory of the "America Firsters" who were convinced that we could watch the whole world go down in flames and not be involved. Had they been successful we would be speaking German or Japenese unless they would have killed off each other and then we would be speaking Russian.
Fortunately,we are still free to engage in written debates because the Isolationists didn't win out. So now, I'm going off to watch the completely "edited" Huckabee debate. If you don't believe me,ask Paul Coonan!
Apples to oranges!
The Nazi Germany CAN NOT be compared to present Iran. Germany was an immensely powerful industrial country. Germany alone was able to invade almost the whole world. This is not the same case as Iran. Iran almost a century later is a poorly industrialized country that was barely able to defend itself in the Iraq-Iran war.
Isolationism has been happening already. The US is loosing credibility and friends due to indiscriminate foreign policies. The best example is the Filipinos (and in general the South Pacific Region), who after WWII nearly worshipped Americans and today hate Americans. Personal experience is the best, ask a Pilipino and I’m sure he/she will tell u why.
Ron Paul's message of Freedom and Liberty is inspired by the Constitution and living in a FREE Republic. His supporters speak "in their own words", WHY they support this Man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4WYqabTxU
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Well Alex, If Iran is so poor and hardly industrialized, why did that war go on for almost a decade? Do you think for one second that Iran is just a nice neighbor? Their leader is one of those people with the "Little Man Syndrome" who try to over-achieve so where do you think his thoughts are directed? If you believe he is only interested in peaceful pursuits and not for extending his strength,then-man-have I got some deals for you!
Daniel:
The war was long because they were equal in strength (military, industrial, economic).
The Iranian politicians are obviously crazy. The politicians in many other countries are also crazy (much of it if not most of it doesn’t make it into the media, f.e.: the Argentinean Presidents who made an awful economic/financial mass before the present President).
We should not and can not bomb every country that has a crazy President, Ayatollah or politicians. If we invested to poor countries all the money which we gave to dictatorships, we would have by now many more friends and much more peace on Earth.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein (Who lived in hardest of all times.)
War with Iran?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIG_IXQ0ipo
Paul Coonan,in Ron Pauls mind if we and US GOV. stops the war on drugs,then the drug problem will end, that means that our sons and daughters ect. that are dying from drugs supplied by the drug cartell in Mexico will no longer die?,or is he saying that there is no reason for the fight because the fight can't be won?,do you think that the drug cartell will just give up and go away with his policies and turn into good guys,what about his veiws on radical islamist,why don't we just leave them alone, is that not the same veiw that President Bill Clinton took then 911 happend,these threats are real and they are out to kill all of us, Ron Paul needs some education on current events around the world and at home, maybe a good place for him is the retirement home.
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If you leave a bees nest alone, they leave you alone. If poke it with a stick they attack you. The more you poke it, the more they attack you. Then you instill fear in your family by telling them they can't go outside anymore or they might get attacked by the bees. You just gained control over your family, and continue to poke the stick at the hive and spread the fear to your neighbors assuring them you will make sure the bees do not get them. How long can one keep poking the stick and expect someone will not see right through you and what you are doing?
Most people learn just to never poke a stick at a beehive because they learned from history what happens. But every onece in a while someone has to poke that hive to see test if history holds true.
Ron Paul speaks more truth about foreign events than anyone else because he is not in the pocket of the military industrial complex which cannot continue to get massive government contracts at taxpayer expense, contractors who depend on fear mongering to survive.
did Bill Clinton poke the bee hive ,NO, he left it alone and look what happend, do you think that we can reduce our military down to scraps and still be able to protect ourselves from nations that our building their Military like China ,Iran, North Korea, there is a reason why we are a super power, we had to become a super power to protect and keep our FREEDOM, are you willing to gamble with our freedom on a hunch that they will leave us alone, i don't think i am, you don't seem to remember the past bombings of our embassies or the USSCOLE we didn't poke that beehive did we, but Ron Paul and you blame us for the consquence, we need a tough leader that will keep our military strong and ready for any situation not to say just don't poke at em, i wish are world was what Ron Paul thinks it is but it Ain't.
"do you think that we can reduce our military down to scraps and still be able to protect ourselves "
Who ever said we would? There is a difference between cutting defense spending and cutting military spending. Nobody, including Ron Paul has ever said we should reduce the military.
The US spend twice as much on defense as the next 10 highest spenders combined.
Just where does Bill Clinton come into this anyway? Clinton has nothing to do with 9/11! Yeah he brought the troops home and guess what, we had a budget surplus! If you are referring to the Oklahoma City bombing when Clinton was president, what does that have anything to do with defense spending and troop support in foreign countries? Nothing!
Damn you sound so scared. I feel sorry for you. When you were growing up, how old were you when you realized the boogie man was not real? Or do you still believe in him? Are there still monsters under your bed?
Fried:
You can retire yourself if you want to.
We won’t, neither will Ron Paul before the primary is over.
You see the important thing is to fight for Liberty, and not if we win or loos in the next election.
Viva Liberty
Zeitgeist – The Movie – The Federal Reserve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ
The video suggests that the debt was created/caused by the FRB (Federal Reserve Board). This is FALSE.
The federal debt has been created by the by the accumulation of deficits (fiscal/yearly) by the Federal Government of the USA. The debt is an accumulation of more then 50 years of deficits.
The FED used to finance the deficits by issuing Treasury Bills and Bonds but lately people do not buy as much as to cover the whole debt. Therefore, the only solution is for the FRB to create new Money Supply or Currency Supply.
Ron Paul doesn’t blame the FRB for creating this new Currency Supply. RON PAUL BLAMES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT for running deficits. And rightly so.
Yes, Ron Paul wants to eliminate the FRB but for completely different reasons.
Guys be careful not to mix in left-wing junk, conspiracy theories etc..
VIVA LIBERTY
Alex
I agree with you for the most part. However, you're assuming that there is "actual" money being "created" when the Government "borrows" money from the FED. Yes. The Government "creates" the Debt through Government Spending, but the money is being "created" out-of-Debt. In other words, it is "backed" by ONLY Debt and nothing more. The Money, that is being created out-of-thin-air, then becomes a "perpetual" Debt that can NEVER be paid back because the "Interest" money was NEVER created. So, in reality, the FED also DOES create the Debt by charging "Interest" that it never created in the first place.
Not to mention, the network of Banks who are "supported" by the FED, can also "create" money out-of-thin-air (and thus create even MORE "Debt") through the practice of "Fractional Reserve Banking". (This video is part 1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgKFLk9xffA&feature=related
Alex
You stated: "The FED used to finance the deficits by issuing Treasury Bills and Bonds but lately people do not buy as much as to cover the whole debt. Therefore, the only solution is for the FRB to create new Money Supply or Currency Supply."
This is incorrect. The FED is now "buying" it's OWN T-Bills, thus "monetizing" the Debt. So, in essence, the FED "creating" NEW money (out-of-thin-air) to "purchase" the money it created (out-of-thin-air – plus the "Interest" which doesn't exist because it was never created in the first place) to fund the Government Spending which the Government "borrows" from the FED. Thus, the FED is not only "creating" the money (out-of-thin-air), it is actually "purchasing" that money that it created (out-of-thin-air) and capitalizing TWICE on this "funny" money.
First, the FED is "charging Interest" on the money it "created" (out-of thin-air) and it then "loaned" to the Government to cover whatever the Government decides it needs the money for. AND second, the FED has now become a "purchaser or investor" in these Government "created" T-Bills, who, in turn, will "collect Interest" which ANY "purchaser or investor" of these Government "created" T-Bills would accrue.
If anything, Alex, if EVERY issue could be "set aside" and the 2012 Presidential Campaign be ENTIRELY "focused" on "Ending the FED", the Country's Problems would eventually be worked out. But because this Issue (and Ron Paul) is being "Ignored", the other Issues (problems) will only continue to manifest (expand).
Alex
My apology… I stated that the FED is buying it's OWN T-Bills, which is only partially true. The Government "creates" these T-Bills in "collusion" with the FED. I should have been more clearer on that.
Alex
I just noticed your comment: "Guys be careful not to mix in left-wing junk, conspiracy theories etc.."
Maybe I'm just "assuming" here, but did you get that "left-wing" jargon from Rush Limbaugh? I heard him make a comment on the Zeitgeist Movement as being "left-wing".
Just so you know, although I "disagree" with some of the information put out by the Zeitgeist Movement, I also "disagree" with some of the information put out by Rush Limbaugh.
Propaganda is put out there through many venues. Rush Limbaugh and Conservative radio are just one of those venues. I'm a Conservative, just NOT a "Rush Limbaugh Conservative". I listen, but I DON'T take what he says as "Gospel". When he came out AGAINST Ron Paul, I realized that there was something DEFINITELY WRONG here. We all should. He LIES, like Fox News LIES. I realize that's "harsh" language, but when Truth is "intentionally" distorted, it then becomes a LIE. You'll NEVER hear Rush Limbaugh or Conservative Talk Radio "expound" on the Federal Reserve. One then has to ask the question "Why"?
Neocon Ron Paul-haters, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have seen their audiences plummet by 33 percent and 28 percent respectively since October. Turns out that listeners are sick of neocon LIES and distortions. Lew Rockwell
http://www.bastiatinstitute.org/2012/01/11/rush-limbaugh-and-sean-hannity-have-seen-their-audiences-plummet/
The Time is Now for Limbaugh and Hannity to Rethink Ron Paul
http://www.themoralliberal.com/2012/01/12/the-time-is-now-for-limbaugh-and-hannity-to-rethink-ron-paul/
"One step toward regaining some of their lost credibility that Limbaugh, Hannity, and the others can take would be to start treating Ron Paul a bit more respectfully. Paul, along with millions of the most demographically disparate Americans, is defying both the conventional wisdom as well as the two-party system that embodies it."
http://jackkerwick.com/2012/01/13/conservative-media/
Paul – Would you mind explaining how defense and military are NOT related? Concerning the amount we spend on defense, would you suggest we cut our spending when the bad guys would love for us to do that? Hey man, this is the real world-not a place to use buzz-words, long words and babble-get with it!
I may be a left-over from WWII – The Greatest Generation – in case you don't know what it means, but it seems to me you sure could use some indoctrination in real life! We fought our butts off so you could mealy-mouth us on this blog!
Also, speaking of boogy-men, take a look out there and then tell us there aren't any of them waiting to get us first chance they get.
Alex – I have to admire your idea of giving money to all those people who need it and like us, but I believe that many times it might result in another small-time dictator who will seek power to satisfy his greed and ambitions.
It is unfortunate that too many people, mostly young ones, haven't gotten it into their heads that we must continue to be a super-power and use force when we are threatened or face the consequences.
Man has not evolved to live as Einstein would have us do. If we are being observed regularly,and I believe we are, these beings must be shaking their heads in dismay at our behavior.
Perhaps someone will eventually use a magnetic pulse and send all of us back to the stone age. Then, with our present knowledge, we might do better the next time.
Alex, that may the answer.
I sad:
“If we invested to poor countries all the money which we gave to dictatorships, we would have by now many more friends and much more peace on Earth.”
But I didn’t say we actually should have done it, not when we don’t have money/surplus only debt.
As far as your idea that we are a Super-Power… You live in the past. We are no longer Super-Power, not even close to it. A country that is a Super-Power isn’t bankrupt, but the USA is presently bankrupt. I admire Ron Paul for thinking he will be able to eliminate the deficit and afterwards to pay down the debt. However, analysing the present Money/Currency Supply, the hyperinflation is already a fact (within 1-2 years), the only question being when it will start.
Viva Liberty
Alex, I forgot to mention that I was a pre-depression baby and grew up in the hardest of times. It isn't something you can ever forget. I'm now a Great-Grandfather and so happy that all my descendents have their needs taken care of through working for them. They aren't parasites feeding off the government so they don't have to worry as long as we maintain our superiority as a world power.
Daniel
For someone who is as seasoned as you are, Daniel – I'm so surprised that you're completely missing the Matrix that has been set up all around you. You really don't understand what's happening, do you?
Hi Daryl – Please explain your view. I'm serious and would like to understand more of your reasoning. I know I can have a civil,intelligent conversation with you.
As an aside, I enjoyed The Matrix and the sequels immensely. I've been a scifi fan since the fifties when there were only a handful of scifi writers and some dopey movies back then.
Nite,nite time- Don't you ever sleep?
Hi Daniel
Before I get into things, I'd like you to watch a video which explains Social Security and Birth Certificates. These controls were implemented back during the Great Depression. It's a segment from the Series, "Slavery By Consent". (It even has a scene in the Video from the "Matrix"…haha)
Anyway, I'd like you to watch it (just the segment) and to get your thoughts, since you went through the Great Depression.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4IajefQOU
Daniel – Then I must assume you you know George Orwell, and his book 1984? Welcome to it's manifestation!
Which is why I do not believe in the boogie man and do not fall prey to the fear mongering agenda of the establishment.
Darryl – I'll look at it later today. Thanks.
Paul – Yes, I read 1984 yearss ago – Big Brother is here!
Hi Darryl. I just watched this segment but would like to see it again and perhaps some of the other segments before making any comment. I already agree and believe the Federal Reserve may be an unnecessary organization, but I've never researched it in depth.
I'm prepping for surgery tommorow very early in the am so I might not get back to you today.
Have a good one!
Hi Darryl. I just watched this segment but would like to see it again and perhaps some of the other segments before making any comment. I already agree and believe the Federal Reserve may be an unnecessary organization, but I've never researched it in depth.
I'm prepping for surgery tommorow very early in the am so I might not get back to you today.
Have a good one!
Hi Michael
The whole "Slavery by Consent" series is on Youtube.
You can also check out the 5 part series from "Zeitgeist – The Federal Reserve" and the Zeitgeist 3 part Addendum "How Money is Created" and the 3 part series "The Economic Hitman".
They're all pretty well done.