In fairness to Steve Bannon, he said there’s only a “30 percent chance” Trump will finish his first term. As in, according to Bannon, there is a greater likelihood that Trump is not President by the time 2020 rolls around. He’s not warning about impeachment, which is DOA as long as Republicans are in charge, but he is warning about a cabinet coup.

According to Vanity Fair, Bannon advised Trump ignore impeachment chatter, but there was a greater threat more immediately around him:

West Wing aides have also worried about Trump’s public appearances, one Trump adviser told me. The adviser said aides were relieved when Trump declined to agree to appear on the season premiere of 60 Minutes last month. “He’s lost a step. They don’t want him doing adversarial TV interviews,” the adviser explained. Instead, Trump has sat down for friendly conversations with Sean Hannity and Mike Huckabee, whose daughter is Trump’s press secretary. (The White House official says the 60 Minutes interview is being rescheduled.)

Even before Corker’s remarks, some West Wing advisers were worried that Trump’s behavior could cause the Cabinet to take extraordinary Constitutional measures to remove him from office. Several months ago, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation, former chief strategist Steve Bannon told Trump that the risk to his presidency wasn’t impeachment, but the 25th Amendment—the provision by which a majority of the Cabinet can vote to remove the president. When Bannon mentioned the 25th Amendment, Trump said, “What’s that?” According to a source, Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30 percent chance of making it the full term. [Emphasis added]

Impeachment has always seemed unlikely, unless a real crime has been committed. Some Republicans threatened similarly empty promises to remove President Obama in the same manner, but that too was a partisan pipe dream. However, would any of the current cabinet officials, all of which were selected and signed off on by Trump, actually try to remove him from office?

The provision in the 25th Amendment concerning removal from office is specifically for health reasons, or even for mental health reasons, but Trump has no medical condition hat would warrant removal, despite what some of his opponents believe. It’s also worth noting that no President has ever been removed under the 25th Amendment, but that’s not going to stop some motivated Democrats from trying, according to McClatchy:

“It’s easier to impeach than invoke the 25th Amendment,” Rosen added, “which is why no president has ever been removed under the disability provision of the 25th Amendment.”

Still, more Democrats are beginning to warm up to the idea of removing Trump from office through the amendment. That includes Rep. Al Green, who on Wednesday read articles of impeachment for Trump on the House floor and called for his removal from office under the 25th amendment, according to Metro.

One California Representative already called for the action, back in August:

McClatchy also explains the specifics of the 25th Amendment:

Adopted on Feb. 1967, the 25th amendment says the president can be removed from office if the majority of their cabinet determines the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”

But that’s just the most controversial part of the amendment. The 25th amendment also lays out the line of succession for who will become president and says the president can send a letter to the Speaker of the House and President Pro Tempore of the Senate that he is temporarily unable to effectively act as leader of the U.S.

With the cabinet being chosen by the President, it’s not surprising this provision has never been used to remove a President from office. Well, that, and the fact that the law only dates back to 1967 which means we haven’t had a lot of time to test it. Those around the President are usually the most loyal, and they only have a job because the President gave it to them. The circumstances would have to be such that the country was seriously imperiled before any of them would consider it a duty to country, above loyalty to the man, to have him removed.

Some have argued, such as Rep. Speier, that we’re already at that point, but she’s still in a small minority who thinks it’s doable right now. Bannon, however, sees down the road as Trump’s presidency unfolds, and fears the enemies of Trump will continue to gain small footholds within the administration, eventually wielding enough power to boot him from office. It’s rather far-fetched, but it’s not unreasonable to say the President has enemies, especially within the White House when you consider the endless amount of leaks released with intention to damage him.

At this point, consider it a history lesson on a part of the Constitution you probably didn’t even know existed up until right now.


  1. Nate, Hoping/Praying./Can’t stop Crying/ Pouting?

    Why didn’t you start out by saying in great big letter “A Source” an Unconfirmed Source in Vanity Fair said this and that…… What garbage!!

    The American people got the president THEY wanted. They’d be outraged if anything happened to Trump.

    • I think Bannon was trying to make the same point you’re making, though. That despite what the American people voted for, Trump has enemies around him and better watch for it. Not that Bannon was hoping Trump gets removed or doesn’t finish his term, but that he thinks he sees the threats being much larger than perhaps the President or others around.

      I agree there’d be outrage from his supporters if Trump was removed from office via some procedural or specious method other than the ballot box.

    • How can you say that the American people got the president they wanted when he lost the popular vote by about 3 million?

      • Easy. Trump won the electoral college. That’s all he needed to do.

        Trump alao won 30 of 50 States. Trump won 82% of the counties.

        The silent majority spoke. They gave the middle finger to the Hollywood perverted elite.

        • Say it any way you want, make any excuse that makes you sleep easy. Trump, and the Russians lost the popular vote, not by a few, like in Bush/Gore, but by 3MILLION VOTES. All the man ( I use the term loosely) has managed to do in office is embarrass us all. His bigoted hate driven agenda has only succeded in showing the true character of his supporters.

          Can you tell me why it is that the only friendly meeting that he has had with a foreign leader was with the Russians? And why you are ok with him bringing the Russians into the Oval Office and allowing only Russian press in the room? What was he hiding? Do you secretly admire Vladimir Putin, just like he does?

          I thought so. Why don’t you gather up your Nazi flag, your sheet and your good and move to Russia. Let me know how you like living under the form of government that Trump is trying to bring to us.

          • Nazi flag? Sheets? Move to Russia? Trump won the presidency fair and square. Non of the radical things you mentioned make sense. I stated facts.

            There is no need to comment on the/your Russian nonsense. Even the news outlets gave up on that as an excuse for clinton’s loss.

            Face reality your an extremely sore loser. Clinton got beat because she was a really bad candidate. Period. Case closed.

            I can tell You’re having a hard time accepting the fact that Trump is the president of the united State. Get used to it. Life is tough. Stop crying. See a psychologist if that will help you.

            • If when you say news outlets you mean Fox news, Breitbart and maybe Rush Limbaugh, maybe they don’t talk about the Russians, but the real news is full of it.

              And when you state facts, why do you not recognize the FACT that Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million?

              Trump may, for now, be president, but he is absolutely the worst president in history. His own Secretary of State called him a moron. Even your buddy Bannon only gives him a 30% chance of finishing his term.

              I just have to ask, you, and any Trump supporter, is it humiliating to let people know how foolish you are, and does it hurt to be that stupid.

            • I never said he didn’t lose the popular vote. Who cares. The framers were smart. They wanted all the States to be included. Thus they came up with the electoral college. Trump won the electoral college by a big margin.

              I suppose your fake news stations are still crying and trying their best to blame Hilary’s loss on the Russians. Babies. Hillary was just a poor candidate.

              Update: You follow Fake News. Tillerson has never said he called Trump a moron. That’s isn’t his style. You maybe. Tillerson is above that crap. Also it was an “unconfirmed source” that supposedly Bannon said Trump has a 30% chance of losing the presidency because of the 25th amendment. You really need to read what Nate said and not just listen to fake news.

              Your last comment doesn’t really deserve an answer. But Trump’s supporters are proud of him. I’ve always saluted every president since JFK. You?

  2. Bossie said last night that Bannon never said it. He implied that it was made up. Honestly, with all the bad info in the press, who knows? I seriously doubt that Bannon would be dumb enough to think that. Trump isn’t going anywhere.

    • View the political world as Bannon does. He uses the term “war” all the time. In war, casualties mount because one side wins or the other side wins. He thinks Media/Establishment is at war with Trump, and there can only be one winner. Bannon is afraid Trump will allow himself to be surrounded by those who wish to see him out of the Presidency. I’ll dig around and see what I can find and update the story if need be.

  3. So why would Bannen tweet that Trump will still be president for another 7 years if he said this? Either this is a fake news report or Bannen is Schizo!

        • Nope. I’m talking about the men and women who elected him. You must be talking about some conservative talking heads that are a super small fraction of his supporters.

          Trump still fills hanger type buildings at rallies/events. His supporters can’t get enough of him.

          Hillary/Biden/etc would be lucky to fill a kitchen full of supporters. Although they would all be very wealthy.

          • You can’t call everyone who votes for someone their “base.” The “base” is the reliable support–the people who can watch him murder someone on Fifth Avenue and stand by him.

            He can’t count on the people who only voted for him because they didn’t like Hillary.

            • You know few people voted for Trump because they didn’t like Hillary. At first, for me, Trump was a tad too much. The things he said.

              Then he grew on people. He was right. He said the things we’d been saying all along. People couldn’t get enough of him. It was refreshing.

              Then that audio surfaced. That was a lot to swallow. But, for example, I thought how does that surface now when something like the present Winestein( spelling-but it was something else) thing not surface. Too many questions about the status quo.

              Anyway, I don’t think his base is going anywhere.

  4. A new survey from Morning Consult finds that President Trump’s approval ratings have fallen in every state since he took office. Nationwide, Trump’s net job approval has dipped by 19 points since January.

    In the swing states Trump carried, those voter’s health insurance coverage in large numbers came from Obamacare. This included 376,000 whites without college degrees in Ohio, 355,000 in Michigan, and 242,000 in Pennsylvania, according to Urban Institute analysis. No one knows exactly how these voters will respond when their health care is cut off by Trump.

    Trump has never had any use for facts, decorum, empathy, or sexual discretion, or any of the hundreds of other markers we use to gauge decency. Trump relentlessly shares his countless conspiratorial hatreds and prejudices with millions of people on tweeter.

    At Trump’s last rally the crowd didn’t match the size and zeal of previous ones indicating some weakening of Trump’s base. The latest figures from the president’s own pollster show a slight decline in Trump’s approval rating among Republican voters. Desertion in the ranks of Trump supporters, even a little, is arguably more harmful to the president’s image than dissension.

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