The country is more divided than ever. A new Gallup Poll says 3/4 of us feel that we “are greatly divided when it comes to our most important values.” That’s because our leaders want it that way. It keeps us from talking together, to think of solutions they don’t want. Liberals are saying Donald Trump used the Russians to get elected. Republicans are saying the only thing that’s important is to find out how the public found out about these things. As usual, both are wrong. But they won’t admit it. They just make up “alternative facts,” –when they’ll “go to the mattresses” even in silly disputes over the number of people were on the Washington Mall. Seriously??

Certainly, the November debacle was painful for Democrats. The idea that Trump would hold onto his base AND take Florida AND Ohio AND Pennsylvania(?) AND Wisconsin(??) AND Michigan(???) still seems impossible. And they couldn’t even claim the election was “rigged,” since even after winning, Trump was the one saying it was rigged!!

Democrats are trying to push the narrative that Trump huddled with Russia’s Vladimir Putin to win the election. That makes little sense on several levels. The main evidence is Trump’s own “bromance” with Putin, practically orgasmic in his praise of the Russian autocrat. On the one hand, that would reasonably weaken his chances, since most of the Republican Party has never trusted Russia. More importantly, if there were a secret rendezvous of Trump and Putin, would he really be dumb enough to brag about his dalliance?

The FBI has been investigating a Trump-Russia connection since July, according to FBI Chief James Comey. That was earlier reported in the New York Times on October 31, 2016.

For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.

In fact, on October 21, USA Today reported that 17 US intelligence agencies were investigating—and agreed that Russia was behind the political hacking.

Donald Trump’s claim that the United States has “no idea” who is behind recent email hacks is just not true. . . Trump pushed back, saying that Clinton and the United States had “no idea whether it is Russia, China or anybody else.”

[But that’s also untrue, according to an October 7 joint statement;]

“The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. . .We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.”

OK, so the Russians did it. Does that mean Trump was involved? Does it even mean the Russians were trying to help Trump? Certainly not, according to “Journalist Luke Harding [who] has an insider’s understanding of Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

Harding adds that Putin’s aim is to disrupt the politics that have dominated America and Europe for the last 70 years. “[Putin] wants to turn the clock back to an age of great powers, to almost an imperial era of the 19th century, where strong sovereign nations didn’t talk about values or human rights or anything like that,” he says. “They cut deals, they had summits, they made grand bargains … and they divvied up, they divided the world into spheres of influence.”. . .

The full audio is available here, if you’re interested.

No, there was probably no collusion between Trump and Putin. In fact, while Trump was bragging that Putin called him “a genius,” Putin smirked that the actual Russian word just means, “colorful.”

The likely reason for Russia’s involvement was to disrupt what we always considered fair elections here. And to undermine the expected winner, Hillary Clinton.

Why does Putin hate the Clintons so intensely?

The interview notes that Putin was a KGB agent in East Germany when the USSR collapsed. He has said it was the worst catastrophe of the 20th century. Then, he felt that the drunken Boris Yeltzin sold out Russia to the West, and that Bill Clinton took advantage of him—including expanding NATO right up to near the Russian border.

Then, during the “Arab Spring,” when leaders from Egypt, Libya and other Middle Eastern countries were overthrown. Putin worries about holding onto power. He felt that Hillary Clinton promoted unrest in Russia at the time. Worse yet, Hillary openly criticized the Russian election, saying it was “rigged.” (Sound familiar?) That infuriated Putin.

It’s clear that Putin just wanted to attack Hillary, so there’s no reason to think—with what we know now—that there was a Trump-Putin conspiracy. So liberals are likely wrong that Trump worked with Putin.

But, of course, that won’t end the idiocy. As the National Review says.

Washington [is] caught up in one of its periodic conspiracy frenzies. Actually, two. One, anti–Donald Trump, is that he and his campaign colluded with Russian intelligence. The other, anti–Barack Obama–CIA– “deep state,” is that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower to ensnare candidate Trump. The odd thing is that, as of today, there is no evidence for either charge. That won’t, of course, stop the launch of multiple all-consuming investigations.

Sorry, liberals. Russia did not work with Trump to get him elected. And, no, it’s no surprise that the Russians tried to make us look bad. Nope. The only real scandal in this whole matter is that for the first time in history, an American candidate for president colluded with the Russians to undermine the respect and confidence of the people in the democracy of the United States of America.

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  1. “Sorry, liberals. Russia did not work with Trump to get him elected”

    And yet, a Republican FBI director announced that he is looking into precisely that possibility. Maybe it happened, or maybe it didn’t, but your dismissiveness of the possibility is wholly unfounded.

    • Keep trying to figure out why Hillary lost. She was a Bad candidate. The press tried to save her. Nope. The basket of deplorables saw through her.

      • What exactly does that have to do with the FBI investigation of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign? Do you think the decision on whether or not to investigate hinged on how well Hillary ran her campaign? That makes no sense. Think it through next time.

  2. The debacle of last November’s presidential election stunned the Democrats? Just think how much more stunned the Democrats will be after next year’s midterms. This after the Democratic and RINO senators running for reelection get squashed. The Democrats will become the new Green party.?

    Except for the diehard zealots, the American people are sick and tired of hearing about the Russians disrupting the general election. The Democrats would blame the Russians if their soft drink was taken from the fridge at the DNC headquarters. How about the remaining Democrats get down to helping President Trump not merely be obstructionists.?

    The people who voted for whichever candidate want those they elected to get to work, not to chase a conspiracy story. The Democrats can’t blame the Russians about Clinton’s loss. They choose to run the most dishonest, lying, thieving, elitist MEGALOMANIAC ever. It is better that they realize that the American electorate isn’t stupid and blame themselves for the loss.?

    • FROM FOX NEWS:

      Majorities of voters think Congress should investigate if Russia interfered with the election and allegations of coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.

      That’s according to the latest Fox News Poll, taken amidst a new volley of allegations of ties between Trump and Russia, and wiretapping of Trump Tower.

      Sixty-six percent want a Congressional investigation into Russia’s attempts to influence the election, and 63 percent want lawmakers to look into possible connections between the Trump campaign and Russia.

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/16/fox-news-poll-voters-want-congressional-investigations-into-russia.html

      • Let me guess, the poll that was taken showing 66% of people wanted a congressional investigation had as the participants 70% liberals. Yes I read that it was a Fox news poll. Fox is trying to appeal to liberals now that CNN is on its last legs.

        • Methodology

          The Fox News Poll is conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R). The poll was conducted by telephone with live interviewers March 12-14, 2017 among a random national sample of 1,008 registered voters (RV). Results based on the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. Landline (449) and cellphone (559) telephone numbers were randomly selected for inclusion in the survey using a probability proportionate to size method, which means phone numbers for each state are proportional to the number of voters in each state. Fieldwork conducted by Braun Research, Inc. of Princeton, NJ.

        • 1. Hillary did win the popular vote.
          2. The polls were right, covering the times when the polls were taken.
          3. The difference was within the margin of error.
          4. There is a difference between polling and conclusion.
          5. If the election had been taken during the time of the polling, Hillary would have won.

          There is no reason to believe that this poll is wrong.

          • The only popular vote that Clinton won was LA, SF and NYC.
            I read the contacts they made were 70% D. – most of we Conservatives and Libertarians (cest_moi) won’t even talk to Polls.
            Your responses are sounding more D than L to me these days. What happened to the attitude that many of us discussed a couple of years ago about starting a Constitution Party or equivalent??

            • I just get sick of hearing claims that the polls were wrong. The polls were not wrong. The commentary on the polls were wrong.

              I slam both sides when people become irrational or abusive.

  3. The Republican party professes to be the party of Lincoln. They have conveniently discarded Lincoln’s best advice: “Stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.”

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