The second meeting between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump on the debate stage took place at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, and the stakes could not have been higher for each candidate. The debate was moderated by a combination of Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz. Here is the complete debate video.

Sunday, October 9, 2016
Second Presidential Debate from Washington University in St. Lous

Candidates: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Moderator: Martha Raddatz, Chief Global Affairs Correspondent and Co-Anchor of “This Week,” ABC
Moderator: Anderson Cooper, Anchor, CNN

Transcript: Washington Post

Full Video:

Here’s a short report on the evening from the Washington Post:

Sunday night’s presidential debate was unusually dark and bitter, with the two candidates taking steps unheard-of in the genteel tradition of Presidential debates, with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump refering to Democratic rival Hillary Clinton as “the devil,’ and promised that – if elected – he would order the Justice Department to investigate her. Clinton said at one point that Trump lives “in an alternate reality.”

The first half-hour of the debate was dominated not by questions from the undecided voters in the audience, but by interruptions and accusations by Trump himself. At one point, Trump referred to the endorsement by Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) of Clinton as a deal with “the devil.”

The debate opened with a question as to whether the campaigns were setting a good example for the nation’s youth, but it quickly turned to discussion about a recent revelation of a damaging video for Trump.

The first 30 to 40 minutes of this debate were quite jaw-dropping. I say this as someone who has intently and closely watched presidential debates dating back to the 2000 election. Donald Trump actually threatened to put Hillary Clinton in jail for the scandal over her handling of classified emails. I think Trump handled the opening question about his 2005 “hot mic” comments the best he could. Which is to say, there is really no good way to answer it, but clearly he worked on changing the subject and he was able to do that several times and not get bogged down like he did during the first debate. Hillary spent most of the time on defense, which is not a place she is comfortable. On several occasions she chose not to rebut what Trump said, but merely stated that he was lying again and voters should go check it out for themselves.

The next 48 hours of this campaign will be something to watch. As GOP leaders reconsider their support for Trump, did this debate do anything to change that?


  1. Can we just say he WON the debate. The whole family gathered around to watch it. I was so happy. I feel like he reached out yet again. Hopefully the Bernie supporters are watching. We need them more then ever. And to bring Hillary and Bill Clinton’s victims to the debates show the world how actions speak louder than words.

    • I occasionally agree with you but please note –
      DIRT is not good for our Countries when elections arise
      Better worry about the welfare of the people.

      • Then we need our jobs back. The issue I don’t agree with is that our nation is going Green.. yet we buy from China and Mexico the place where the air is so polluted. How is that helping our environment? Wouldn’t it make more sense to bring our manufacturing company back and give them tax relief so they can afford to be green and still make a profit and grow?

        • tax relief is to the business owner, would only create more classification in economy and build a gap. also trade either way it necessary in global world and has its outcomes too. the pollution still would increase even if manufacturing company they return

          • Lexi, I’m sure some of the old guys here will remember, but manufacturing jobs used to be huge. We made most of what we needed and sold globally then as well. Those jobs paid our healthcare and decent living wages. Those are still only available for adults…
            We have the EPA, OSHA, and USDA regulations meant to protect us. But those protections are only available to us if they are produced in the US.
            Now the tax laws have increased…. And not for the better. We have what it sad the Obama tax (not insured tax).

            • that was back in the days during revolution period and yes manufacturing revival its a good thing but countries income depends on tax in every country.if tax reduced that deducts the import, export tax income no imports, export no jobs in industrials for the growing population only the high power benefits gets the control and you know what tax from high power would create more benefits even in healthcare rather than more money in someone else pocket. either way whats good is a business if people do business their own way neglecting rules people would come to a point they ignore paying even the tax suggested. Alsohealthcare, wages they are contributed in different factors too example friendly relationship with even the countries claimed to be evil . thats whats in my mind trying thinking out the box i get your point though ms.Angelica

    • It was symbolic that Hillary stayed afterward to meet and greet the audience, while Trump and his family disappeared.

    • Of course we can.

      No one says it has to be true.

      And Drumpf’s bringing the ‘victims’ only shows how pathetically desperate he’s getting.

    • “Can we just say he won the debate?”

      No, we can’t given that he brought so many falsehoods and conspiracy theories to the stage and showed his true colors as a downright misogynist. Clinton, on the other hand, batted off every single piece of nonsense that he attempted to claim with facts and straight talk. And showed her presidential form. Well beyond this monstrosity of a man who is almost entirely lacking in basic humanity and empathy.

      So, no he didn’t. Less of the pigeon chess, if you will. Thanks.

      • Lol. Got your knickers all tied up. Your not even an American. And you set your profile to private… What are you ashamed we might find out something?
        He paid a settlement. He was caught in court lying about it. The transcripts of everything can be found. This was also when our newspapers were still honest.

        • I live in America. Not sure where you’re pulling your data from.

          Hiding something? Lol. Says the person with no profile pic. Typical Republican hypocrisy.

          And typical ad hominem fallacy peppered with xenophobic tendencies. All very predictable from Republicans. You are’t breaking the mold in any sense.

          • *You once told me you weren’t American.. your freaking words, not mine.
            *Did you change your settings yet?
            * I’m not trying to break molds. Why would a picture of me make any difference? Are you that superficial?

            • You were the one who made a thing about personal profiles first, not me. And your xenophobic comments have been proven to be irrelevant in this conversation. If you have evidence for the claims at hand, then produce it. Anything else is derivative. Not interested in xenophobia or remarks on my personal profile. YOU are the one who resorted to insult. So, you can expect the same, if you continue in that vein. I would prefer to see evidence though. Republicans do not generally deal in facts and evidence though so I won’t hold my breath.

      • i agree even though he tries hide or deny his character from the claims he’s asked “the locker room” etc prove trumps behaviour smh.

  2. 2 comments on the debate
    TRUMP – please tell him that his opposition candidate’s name is HILLARY not SHE / HER /shows he is a ‘nouveau-rich’ (equals no manners !!!!)
    TRUMP – spends his own money and dares Hillary to do the same . I might even agree with him here BUT is this money tax deductible eventually I ask? I do not know therefore my question.
    BUT in a way he throws into the air that if YOU DO NOT USE YOUR OWN MONEY you are barred from ever becoming President……………..

    • Nope. He tried the pc, polite, route last time at the first debate. It didn’t work. It just emboldened her. He wasn’t well prepared but still she ate his pc up.

      Trump is a quick study. He’ll do very well in the 3rd debate.

    • Hillary as well as most filthy rich people like Buffet, will hire the best CPA firms. Because they can afford it. So that is why DT was able to quicky tell you the greatest loophole. I can guarantee all of them know it. —He used his money because he did not want to be beholden to anyone. That isn’t a bad thing. Like he said over and over again…. We need change. We need to take care of us first. …ever wonder how we can make quick decisions on aid to other countries, but we can’t for our own? We need to exepel the Democrats and Republicans and think about the American people. We are not GLOBALIST.

        • So happy you agree!! Thanks for commenting. I get slammed here all the time and called names. Not that it natters. They are just words. ?

      • in money wise you cant compare hillary and trump but who sounds reasonable like really you rich but you didnt pay your tax? afraid to show your transaction payments to govt. whats there to expect on presidential seat he ain’t going worry bout anyones incomes unless its his and people surrounding him. and reduction of tax for rich people ain’t going solve or increase countries income. Countries income depends on trades, tax and no any poor low paid citizen going contribute tax income as much as people on top. Trump planning let them pay low tax. plus if you recall first debate he cant even treat even his workers in good way.

        • Well I guess that is what is so messed up Lexi. Cause Bill & Hillary sold us out with NAFTA. They made is EASY for companies to take a good paying job overseas. Now how is that putting food on your table? You think for a second that they lost money on the deal? Nope. Trumps been saying it all the time for many years… We are giving away all our jobs. How can a person ever succeed if we don’t have jobs. Shoot a college degree don’t mean sH*t if you can’t get a JOB. And you think this global thing is so great?? What about our own? I’m tired of seeing heroin killing every day. Tired of those new drugs coming every day. We got to stop letting this crap into our streets. We should be treating our veterans and old folks…

  3. Americans – he is promising better quality of life – more jobs etc – fully agree and sincerely hope it happens no matter who wins
    DOES TRUMP NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE YEARS HE (and others) ROBBED them by not paying taxes ?
    He was so proud that he took advantage of the loophole in the law. I know !!! he is a businessman

    Therefore blame the previous Governments who allowed for that- SAD

  4. Mediators the audience is the American people. They are not wasting time. They are voicing their pleasure at the FACTS.

    • RIGHT ON! It was painfully clear that the mediators were on Killary’s side – I SAY LET THE PEOPLE BE HEARD! It’s ABOUT TIME! I hope Trump does win – Just so i can see her and her ilk hauled off to jail! NO one should be above the law!

      • The Republicans have gone on several witch hunts against hillary and they all failed. The only way she will ever go to prison, is if she is imprisoned without during process

  5. What Van Jones said after the debate lingers… that it was a win for Hillary that she didn’t knock Trump out of the park, so that he won’t be replaced. (She’d rather have Trump as her contender than Pence or some other Republican.) … Did she underperform purposely … ?

      • Well, they have another tape that’s said to be worse than “Grab ’em by the p****”, so, his nightmares will return as well.

        • Actions speak louder than words!!! These are real life faces, women that had the chance to meet the Clinton’s. Holy crap man. This is not working with the childrens fund right out of college. This is not helping women out. That is her claim. Defend them not Hillary.

          • It’s not just words, folks!

            Temple Taggart, the 21-year-old Miss Utah, was startled by how forward he was with young contestants like her in 1997, his first year as the owner of Miss USA, a branch of the beauty pageant organization. As she recalls it, he introduced himself in an unusually intimate manner.

            He kissed me directly on the lips. I thought, “Oh my God, gross.” He was married to Marla Maples at the time. I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like “Wow, that’s inappropriate.”
            – Temple Taggart, 1997 Miss Utah USA

            • WOW OH NO! He …. he Kissed her? On the LIPS? Lets talk about how BILL was fined! and kicked out of college for? RAPE…… Trump may say things off color…. but NO ONE has accused him of RAPING WOMEN… OR defending those who do, at the expense of the victim!

            • OR defending those who do, at the expense of the victim!

              Trump was perfectly okay with it and thought Bill Clinton was treated unfairly and even enthusiastically defended him.

              Though Trump has been on a week-long tear against Bill Clinton, accusing him of having a “terrible record of women abuse,” CNN unearthed a 2008 interview with Trump in which he called the scandals “TOTALLY UNIMPORTANT.”

              Trump dismissed the impeachment effort brought on by Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky as “NONSENSE.”

            • He said he was a business man. Hillary gets funding from FOREIGN COUNTRIES that have laws where it is okay to rape children and women, keep slaves, kill gays, and perform genocide to their own people.
              She was recorded saying maybe it is time to to at Iraq as a business opportunity.

            • He said he was a business man … what’s that supposed to mean? Are you saying because he was a business man he paid lip service to the Clintons? If so, then what makes you think he’s not paying lip service to the Clintons’ hating Republican voters NOW, to manipulate them, to get what he wants?

              Oh BTW, Trump does business with China where women can be forced to have abortion as a part of population control. Does that make Trump pro-abortion?

            • abortion in china was legalized to reduce population so it would be equally to its surplus income.trump would try crash china and blame them but face the fact china still important for a former businessman and other trade purpose in production& labour. Trump pro-abortion policy unless he wants it to be applied in American. Giving what he wants only going fulfill his needs as businessman, and idea of stop/ fighting isis am sure they will attack his business first unless he gets good advisors. Also sure people would be like merchants more worry bout the income rise after tax reduced rather than contribute to the fight. been thinking since when rich guy or a person from rich lifestyle ever worried about lowlife, or low paid people.

            • for a secretary position i don’t think the reason the funding happened for purpose of supporting Iraq laws and also no countries allows raping or killings and slave basis ended even some practice in modern way , but as we all know the worlds history allows formation of treaty to ensure peace there is a reason for the fundings just like all treaties conducted even back in days in American histories 1700s and beyond.

            • That’s not true. Trump has been “accused of raping women.” And girls. Being accused doesn’t make it so.

            • money power keep your mouth shut unless you post the record. rise of rapist grab them by their genitals.#trump4president

            • Here is an excerpt from your link that I took the time to read.
              The Guardian investigation found that a publicist calling himself “Al Taylor” attempted to sell the video tape of “Jane Doe” relating her allegations for $1m.

              It goes on to say Trump Vehemently denies…
              Please, please read before you post. Thank you.

            • Did you even read my link? Please do it now. And try to reread yours again. Clear your mindset. Read it with unbiased opinion. You might be surprised.
              I hate liars… I hate even more rapist and child molesters. Did you see the 2 tiers of Justice? I mean for 1 Count it should be s minimum of 7 years!!! He served 13 months. Rich vs Poor

              You might want to think about all those 34 girls.
              You seem like a good person, because you care about character. That is important. So go ahead and read the link, and we can talk about it afterwards.

            • I don’t need to know anything more about Trump. I made up my mind that I can’t respect him and can’t trust him. He offends me so much because I’m a Christian.

              Trump makes mockery of Christianity by calling himself a “strong Christian” all the while having affairs with multiple women (+ bragging about it!!) and profiting from the sex industry (there’s a strip club in the Trump Taj Mahal).

            • Now that Jo is a good argument.
              But keep in mind that he is pro life.. unless in cases of rape, incest, or medically necessary.
              Hillary Clinton is not. She is a pro choice.

              So let’s throw those two out the window and look at Pence and Kaine…
              Pence tries to live a Christian life, in fact during the debate he behaved accordingly. Is pro-life with the same stance as Trump.. but wants to make adoption easier so families that can’t have children have an opportunity to.

              Kaine, well he is pro choice. It is up to the women to choose.

              Something to think about.

            • Here are some excerpts from a Christianity Today editorial. They are telling Christians to wake up.

              Speak Truth to Trump

              Indeed, there is hardly any public person in America today who has more exemplified the “earthly nature” (“flesh” in the King James and the literal Greek) that Paul urges the Colossians to shed: “sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed, which is idolatry” (3:5). This is an incredibly apt summary of Trump’s life to date. Idolatry, greed, and sexual immorality are intertwined in individual lives and whole societies. Sexuality is designed to be properly ordered within marriage, a relationship marked by covenant faithfulness and profound self-giving and sacrifice. To indulge in sexual immorality is to make oneself and one’s desires an idol. That Trump has been, his whole adult life, an idolater of this sort, and a singularly unrepentant one, should have been clear to everyone.

              And therefore it is completely consistent that Trump is an idolater in many other ways. He has given no evidence of humility or dependence on others, let alone on God his Maker and Judge. He wantonly celebrates strongmen and takes every opportunity to humiliate and demean the vulnerable. He shows no curiosity or capacity to learn. He is, in short, the very embodiment of what the Bible calls a fool.


            • I don’t believe Trump is really pro-life. He says he is because he can’t get Republicans votes otherwise.
              Trump praises his sister, a pro-abortion extremist judge

              I’m okay with Pence, but I really want Trump be gone from the party. I don’t believe Trump is a true Republican. He’s an invader, hijacker. I’d rather see a decent honorable Republican winning back the White House in 2020 than let this jerk tarnish our party forever.

            • I guess that is where you and I differ. Because everything I know of Hillary is far far worse than Trump. They continue to put out additional emails regarding her and her beliefs, her donations from all those foreign countries. It just all is too much. Maybe being in the government for so long is a bad idea. As far as our Congress, we can’t continue to give up our country.
              Take the climate change agenda. Which honestly I don’t agree with. But I do agree in environmental responsibility. In no way should we pollute our water, air, or land. The affects are immediate in some cases, and dangerous to our environment. So why are we not keeping manufacturing companies here? We have laws and policies in place. We have no control over seas and are importing food from there!!? We can’t keep going in that direction any longer.
              We can’t wait for 4 years to get what we want… We have the judicial power in the balance. He picked several people that the RNC approved.
              I liked our conversation. It was fun and educational. I at least learned what your plan for the future is. Even if we disagree, you were nice. Thank you for that. It’s nearly 3 in the morning and my mom is stopping by for breakfast tomorrow. Lol. I really should get some sleep. Goodnight.

            • It’s not about who (Trump or Hillary) is worse, they’re are both corrupt, but “which” is worse. My view is, considering both of them having historically high unfavorability, either of them most likely will end up as a one-term president. Also, it’s often the case that the political pendulum swings to the opposite side in the mid-term election. That’s what happened in both 2010 & 2014; The GOP had a big victory after Obama’s win each time.

              1.) One term of Hillary with the GOP ‘keeping’ the House and Senate,
              2.) One term of Trump with the GOP ‘losing’ the House and Senate.

              Which should we prefer? Being #NeverTrump is NOT wrong for the party or the country. Don’t confuse my willingness to let Hillary win this year as my support for her. It is merely a strategic move to get rid of both Trump and Hillary.

            • And I am trying to get as many Democratics to become Republicans. Because the DNC is crooked. I want our Republican representatives to start working for the PEOPLE they serve. I have in the past voted outside my Party. Because it was the right thing for do.

              Thank you & Take care.

            • If the image that Republicans are anti-women, anti-immigrants, anti-minorities (even if that’s not true) sticks thanks to Trump, people outside our party won’t be joining us, or voting for the GOP. We could lose the election every time after 2020 for a loooog time. Then how many justices will be replaced under Dem presidents?

              I am convinced that Trump is the worst person to be the leader of our party, so much so I’m willing to endure another four years of a Dem White House. It’s better for us to keep the House and Senate, then we can control her until a true principled Republican wins the presidency in 2020.

              Thanks, you take care too,
              Have a great day 🙂

            • I’m trying really hard to change the image Democrats project on Republicans.
              That is always what they said.. we are… All ~ists.
              It’s not true. We are all about taking care of our families and communities. I would love for our country to regain the manufacturing jobs that require low skill workers with good pay and insurance. Hillary can’t do this. Trump can. Good jobs can turn our economy around. We have 3-4 seats opening up in the next 4 years in the Supreme Court.

              I’m super tired today! Had a nice visit and ended up making potato soup for lunch. I have a super easy 20 min recipe if you ever want it. Hope you have a great day. Talk to you later.

            • Changing the party’s image is almost impossible when we nominate a guy like Trump. It’s like giving the Left more reasons to distort Republicans’ image. Now a lot of people say our party leader is “Groper-in-Chief”. The longer Trump stays as the face of the party, the worse for us Republicans. Trump should’ve stepped out and Pence should’ve stepped in. But it’s too late now. Trump is dragging the entire party to the bottom.

            • Those are just words and I guess we could and maybe should give Hillary nicknames… Kind of push back. I heard some like killary, Shillary, Billary, etc. She has been called a liar, a thief, and a bully while she worked for us. No person should vote for Hillary. Even if they vote 3rd party … I think I spend too much time protecting my support for Trump, and not enough condemning Hillary and the DNC. I’m not a Democrat, but ohh does that get me mad… I can’t stand cheaters. It wasn’t a fair fight. And now the world knows it. Grrrrr.

            • I’m not so sure if it was just words. I’m not so sure if all the women are lying. Trump has lied in the past many times. What makes you think he’s being honest this time?

              Either way, saying that “Trump is not worse than the Clintons” isn’t gonna impress anyone. We are supposed to be the party of Family Values, are we not? So, from Independent and swing voters point of view, the Republicans look like such a big hypocrite and that turns them off. And honestly, I can’t blame them.

              And now, our party nominee is becoming a national laughingstock.

              “It’s not the locker room, it’s you” – Trevor Noah

            • Well he was a Democrat before he became a Republican. Maybe that was then… But to be a Christian is not to be without flaws .. it is just accepting them and asking for forgiveness if we falter. We try to be good people, and look at his kids. So well behaved.
              I guess if we are honest we haven’t been as inclusive as the Democrats with regard in gay marriage. But honestly that was just recently. Within the last 12 years. It wasn’t as we never had gay entertainers or even gay friends but it just wasn’t talked about…. Other then that I think our image wasn’t destroyed by us but by the Democrats. We allowed it. We allowed the media and the party paint us as right wing, and anti— . I just hope we get away from the name calling at get to the policy.. this is where we will see in the presidency…. We do not like NAFTA, TPP will be much worse. Iran is a bad deal, and Isis or Isil is spreading across the world.

            • “Why do I have to repent, why do I have to ask for forgiveness, if you are not making mistakes?” — Donald J. Trump, July 22, 2015

              … Obviously Trump doesn’t think having an affair or groping women is a mistake.

            • That’s right, he did say that. I’m sure at the time he didn’t know this was going to come to light. It was supposed to be 2 guys being crude and nasty. They edited Billy out.
              I’m going to share something personal…
              So my father in law was a Missionary Baptist preacher. My husband has strong Christian beliefs. He won’t joke about other women, doesn’t like bars or lots of swearing… So when my 3 brothers and brother in law wanted to take him out for a bachelor party… He was not going to do it. You can imagine how difficult it would have been to stand his ground. But I supported him. Explained this is how he is and we would like to do a cook out instead…. I am sure for about an hour his ears were burning cause he was “square”, but they all later respected his beliefs. We are not invited to many parties, but host a ton. I guess in the end we made it work.
              We each have to make our own decisions in life. Some are life changing… I am glad he apologized for his actions. I am glad he took responsibility for them and apologized. Even if that was his behavior years ago, and he had changed his ways since then, it still needed to be said.

              I wish Bill Clinton would apologize to those women. Anonymous is going to release a sex tape with him and a young girl. It was a setup. If this is true… Should he apologize for his actions?
              This is going to get really ugly and scary.

            • Trump still has not apologized to McCain for his comment “He’s a war hero because he was captured”, or to a handicapped journalist he mocked, or to Carly Fiorina, or to Judge Curiel, or to the Khan family … I’m not impressed.

            • Of course Trump would deny. He said in the debate on Sunday that he have never groped women, but several women have come forward and said he forced himself on them.

            • Did you hear the audio tape from Howard Stern Show where Trump boasts how he gets to walk in on naked girls?

            • What former Miss Arizona described doesn’t stray too far from Trump’s comments in a 2005 Stern interview, in which he said he would go backstage at pageants to make sure “everything is good.” It was not clear to which pageants he was referring.

              “Well, I’ll tell you, the funniest is that before a show, I’ll go backstage, and everyone’s getting dressed and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere,” Trump told Stern, “and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it.”

              Trump said that he would ask the women “Is everyone OK?” and that they would be “standing there with no clothes.”

              “And you see these incredible-looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.”

            • And every single man would envy him…. Right?
              He was a regular at the Howard Stern show because he was funny, rich, and said what he thought… Unless it might hurt his business. Right?

              We live with Miley Cyrus grabbing and letting people grab her genitalia on stage! We have half naked woman on the runway, painted on skin. We learned from Bill Clinton that oral sex isn’t a sexual act, and neither is using a cigar.
              You can’t be moral with Trump and disregard Bill.

            • I’m not disregarding Bill. I want both Trump and the Clintons to be gone. My objective is #SomeoneNotMorallyBankrupt 2020, and it’s easier to replace Hillary in four years with a decent, honorable Republican than challenging Trump from within. (Reagan tried it, Ted Kennedy tried it, but it only handed the presidency to the other side.)

              When I faced with two predators at the same time, one inside the house and one outside … I’d deal with the one inside first.

            • am sure if people were to accuse so holy guy in your eyes they would show up more than Hillary’s email situation, truth always reveals out lets wait for another trump dilemma who knows what happen more in the “locker room”

        • That’s the real danger for Trump. He tried to laugh it off as if it were a one-time thing. But Geraldo (from Fox News) says he has a treasure trove of Trump comments on tape. Also, there’s much more in the Apprentice tapes. It appears that someone has them and is holding out for more money.

          He should have apologized at the debate, and acted contrite. Then, if more came out, it’d be “old news.” By trying to just push through it, he’s inviting more attack.

          • Maybe…
            Truth is that I worked side by side with men. They tell dirty jokes, they subscribe to porn, and women like 50 shades of grey, and the world would rather talk about sex or show nipple stamps (Miley).
            So tell me again how upstanding and righteous we are?
            Now granted, I am in the section that can’t stand that, would wish people would cover up, and not be so vulgar. But it is one thing behind closed doors and another thing at a concert or super bowl.

      • One of them was ridiculous. She defended someone, as an attorney, in a court of law. She did her job. Do we no longer believe that defendants have rights?

        • Hillary chose to bring it up during an interview. I feel like it is a double whammy to the child, now woman. That should never be a laughing matter. I’m sure she wouldn’t feel the same way if it happened to Chelsey.

            • There’s nothing there. The lab screwed up. She did her job.

              And that headline lie .


            • Your a very very sick puppy…. to think she had done nothing wrong. I hope if any tragedy finds you or your love ones that the perpetrator hires a “Hillary”.
              Ultimate karma
              Unless you change your mind real soon & agree justice was not served.

            • I for one DO condemn her for being a immoral, irresponsible, reprehensible human being – she disgusts me and being a woman myself, – i find her an embarrassment to women. SHE is NOT someone i want to “represent” me.

            • Justice was not served that day. Hillary went out of her way, not to defend her client because he was innocent, but because it was a favor for someone. She knew he did it. She knew he raped and beat that 12 year old girl. What if it was your daughter? what if your granddaughter fell on hard times and lived on the other side of the tracks? Found herself in this type of situation See Goethe, it changes really quick when it is your own child, well that is if you cared about them…

            • Sorry. You need to learn about the American justice system. Everyone–everyone–is entitled to a legal defense. It is up to the State to “prove” guilt. In this case, the prosecution was incompetent. When you hear her laugh, it has nothing at ALL to do with the girl. It was about the incompetent work they did.

              What makes you think I don’t live “on the other side of the tracks”???

            • Because, if you work hard enough you can move out. All my family has.. 🙂 Every child out there that lived in the hood never really wants to stay there… Everyone yearns to live s comfortable life. A safe life. I was a single, independent, childless, women from 17-23 yr old. I had to rent an room in ’94 for $200 bucks on 57th & Ashland in Chicago. Lol. Trust me I wanted out!!! I ended up in Bridgeport. Better side of Chicago but not the best.. rent there was $500. I think back and remember the reason I succeed was that I JUMPED at every opportunity that existed. You kind of remind me of that perseverance at times. I may not agree with you, but I respect your voice. Because you are kind.

            • I try to be fair. I will question either side, if I feel they are going off the rails.

              And you may have noticed, we will ban people who attack other commenters viciously and/or unfairly.

        • It is ONE thing to do your job as a defense attorney – it is quite ANOTHER to laugh about a 12 year old girl being BRUTALLY raped – and not just once.. she laughs a few times about it… she acused a 12 year old girl of WANTING “IT” Give me a flipping break – this woman is a MONSTER and full of crap when she says she cares about women OR about anyone more than herself. Everytime she opens her mouth it’s yet, another LIE..

          • Actually, that was all debunked some time ago.

            There is absolutely no evidence that she laughed “about a 12 year old girl being BRUTALLY raped”.

            She did not accuse “a 12 year old girl of WANTING “IT”.”

            • Have you NOT listened and WATCHED the video of her doing exactly THAT? You list your name here as “progressive Republican”? To me, and others like me – that just translates to liberal Democrat. Do you believe in the Republican platform? IF NOT, why don’t you just call yourself a democrat?

            • Please provide the link with Hillary laughing about a twelve year-old girl having been raped.

            • Are you mad about the word?
              Did you read the transcripts?
              I’m paraphrasing, but it goes something like this and on and on…
              “She seeks attention from older men”.

            • When someone says “she said,” and the other says, “she did not,” it’s up to the person who claims “she said” to prove that she said it. We’ve seen no such evidence.

            • I’ve been asking for evidence for multiple ludicrous claims over the past week or so. Still nothing, except biased conspiracy theory YouTube videos.

            • Are you mad about the word?

              What word?

              Did you read the transcripts?


              I’m paraphrasing, but it goes something like this and on and on…
              “She seeks attention from older men”.

              Not only are you paraphrasing, you’re maliciously editing. If you aren’t, then the source is.

            • In a July 28, 1975, court affidavit, Clinton wrote that she had been informed the young girl was “emotionally unstable” and had a “tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing.”

              I PROVIDED THE LINK
              UP ABOVE.
              THANK YOU ALL FOR THE
              INSULTS. NOW EAT CROW.

            • No point was made. A point was “alleged.”

              Your “evidence” proves the opposite of what you claimed. And by focusing on a bogus point, you lead to suspicion of any other claim you make.

              You are usually reasonable, but you’re being totally irrational on this point.

              Delete what??

            • You’ve provided no reason for me to eat crow.

              Pay attention.

              Further, your response fails to address my comment.


            • The word was WANTING.
              The comment was referring to your reply. You should have received an email showing that. So I just don’t see how you got it all confused.

            • Okay, so the word was “wanting”.

              Congratulations. Want a sucker?

              Why would I be mad about it?

              You don’t have my email address.

              You also failed to address the rest of the comment you responded to.


              I’m noticing a pattern.

            • Yes, I listened to it.

              Nowhere does it have Hillary laughing about a twelve year-old girl being raped; brutally or otherwise. Nor is there anything there about Hillary saying that the girl ‘wanted it’.

              A. KNEW THE MAN WAS GUILTY
              B. WENT AFTER A 12 YR OLD…..

              In a July 28, 1975, court affidavit, Clinton wrote that she had been informed the young girl was “emotionally unstable” and had a “tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing.”

              “I have also been told by an expert in child psychology that children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents in disorganized families, such as the complainant’s, are even more prone to exaggerate behavior,” Clinton said.

              Clinton said the child had “in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body” and that the girl “exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

              But the interview reveals that an error by the prosecution would render unnecessary these attacks on the credibility of a 12-year-old rape victim.

            • Like it or not, that is what is called the American Justice System: everyone is entitled to a defense.

              We, as Americans, have a right to the most aggressive defense our attorney can give us. It is up to the State to prove guilt. Even then, we have many innocent people in jail, because their attorneys were incompetent or didn’t care.

              This nonsense argument just causes one to question the other allegations. That is the problem trying to argue the weakest possible point.

            • Some problems here.

              1) You again failed to back up your claim that Hillary accused the girl of “wanting it”.

              2) You and the article fail to divulge the source that apparently told Hillary that the girl had “in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body” and that the girl “exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

              3) QUIT YELLING!!!!

            • Click on my icon, locate all the links I sent you. The one for free beacon is the one that shows the excerpt from up above. If you read the article you will find the answers you need.
              That is all I will do for you on this subject.
              I am tired of commenting about it with you. So any decent person that reads this, will be able to see the truth. That in itself is all I need. Got to get some sleep… Bye

            • Nowhere in the article does it back up your claim that Hillary said the girl wanted sex or to be raped.


              As I pointed out to you earlier, “You and the article fail to divulge the source that apparently told Hillary that the girl had “in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body” and that the girl “exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.””


              What a shock.

            • I put the excerpt in the text ….
              Now your using different words…. Is that a ploy? Kind of like if you don’t like an answer ask it in a different way?

            • In a July 28, 1975, court affidavit, Clinton wrote that she had been informed the young girl was “emotionally unstable” and had a “tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing.”

              “I have also been told by an expert in child psychology that children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents in disorganized families, such as the complainant’s, are even more prone to exaggerate behavior,” Clinton said.

              Clinton said the child had “in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body” and that the girl “exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

              But the interview reveals that an error by the prosecution would render unnecessary these attacks on the credibility of a 12-year-old rape victim.

            • Are you talking about that stupid YouTube? Did you even watch it?? Yes, Hillary laughs while discussing the oddity of the practice of the law, but it had nothing at ALL to do with the victim. She was not even mentioned!

              She laughed about two things: (1) reliability of a lie detector test, and (2) the stupidity of the prosecutors–who cut a hole out of a piece of underpants to test them–then threw away the evidence.

              This one is beneath you, Angelica.

            • Goethe, If I have to dissect every piece of evidence or video I will. The truth of the matter it probably will not change someone’s thoughts.
              Recently, we as a nation have come to distrust our Judicial System. We see it with BLM, the Affluenza case, all the way to Clintons doorstep… I am in no way stating that I condone any riots but I can see how one bad arrest, prosecution or lack of both, can destroy or tarnish the thousands of others good calls.
              In her own words, do you see the blurred lines? Do you not see how by manipulating our laws, the ones that are supposed to work for JUSTICE, are really just working on the ones that know people or do each other favors. I jotted down a few key points. This is the type of person that plays by the favor rule even back then… not by the decent rule. Here it goes……

              00:51 A prosecutor called me, had a guy accused of rape, and wanted a women lawyer
              1:18 Terrible case, Fascinating case, Interesting case.
              Guy was accused of raping a 12 year old. from the other side of the tracks in SPRINGDALE.
              THE guy was from Green Forest, his family owned a little farm there.
              1:50 He was a rootless folk
              I had him take a polygraph, that he passed, WHICH forever destroyed my faith in POLYGRAHS
              2:03 What was SAD was they had evidence UNDERWEAR.
              2;18 they tested the underwear.
              2:38 they returned the underwear with a hole in it.
              3:08 I plea bargained it down cause they did not have any evidence.
              3:31 Got a special court order
              4:41 she said :” well this guy’s ready to come from New York to prevent this miscarriage of Justice.

              Goethe as I write this I realize that we are talking about Hillary. Sometimes her memory doesn’t match reality. Maybe I am wrong to believe her memories..


              Drawing from the court files Politico’s Glenn Thrush then the political reporter of Newsday, described the basics of case in 2008 saying that the victim had joined Thomas Alfred Taylor, and two male acquaintances, including a 15-year-old boy she had a crush on, on a late-night trip to the bowling alley. Taylor drove the group around in his truck, feeding the girl whisky mixed with Coca-Cola on the way. Taylor drove to a ‘weedy ravine’, near the highway where he and his 15-year-old male acquaintance raped the 12-year-old girl.
              Later that evening, at about 4 a.m., the girl and her mother went to the hospital, where she was given medical tests and reported that she had been raped. The doctor who examined her said her injuries were consistent with being raped. In the end based on an evidentiary mistake by the lab, Hillary negotiated a plea deal, her client plead guilty to a lesser charge and got off with time served (two months)

            • Angelica: You’re talking around in circles.

              You purported that that video proved that Hillary was insensitive to a 12-year-old girl. Total nonsense.

              It was a thoughtful discussion of the law–warts and all.

              Again, there were only two laughs:
              One was a sad laugh that you can’t trust polygraphs.
              Two was ridiculing an incompetent prosecutor who destroyed his own evidence.

              They were not really talking about a case. They were talking about incompetent prosecution.

            • Angelica: You’re having an unhealthy obsession with this non-sense. It’s a crazy conspiracy theory. And it will drive you crazy. Try to focus on something else. Go to a movie, or something.

          • She did not laugh about the girl. The girl was not even mentioned.

            It was a sad laughter, if you have any sense at all about such things.

            Have you ever gotten home, checked your sales slip, and found that they charged you less than they should have? Did you chuckle about it? Does that make you a heinous person?

            Again, the one time had nothing at all to do with the case. It was the folly of thinking lie detector tests are reliable. The second time was the total idiocy of the prosecutor who cut up the evidence–and then threw it away.

    • Sure, why not – she has under performed for 30 yrs… she under performed on the security of the United States, – it’s plain though that Bill never had a problem with “performance”.

      • Well, Trump disagrees with you and Trump himself (as usual).

        “I know Hillary and I think she’d make a great president or vice-president.”

        Trump seemed not to give a lick about the allegations made against Bill Clinton in the past, when he said this of Hillary in 2008. 😉

        • Again he needs favors.. it is business.
          But…. It shows Great character about why he can’t let Hillary Clinton win. Why we all can’t. She is BAD for our country. Si bad that a business man, a retired doctor, and CEO and plenty of other people fought to become President.
          Jo, millions of millennial and have the country know she is bad. Why don’t you? Because you want more of the same. Failed policy after failed policy…. You might as well kneel down with your hands behind your head (like our sailors).
          On trade alone. Do you think NAFTA hurt us?

          • That is why we need a disciplined Republican who can win the reelection. Those who support Trump are being myopic. I wonder if you’ve considered the very plausible consequence of electing the “most unpopular (should I say ‘hated’)” guy in recent history?

            We should look at the bigger picture in the long run … Even if Trump wins this November, can he win the reelection in four years? The left will become even more galvanized to defeat him. You can bet on it! Trump is “the most despised” by the left, so much so that we see violent protest against him.

            One of the biggest problems is that Trump is very unpopular among young people. In four years, since more youth will join and some old folks won’t be there anymore, it’s gonna be only worse for Trump. His chance of winning the reelection is dicey to say the least. So, most likely he’ll end up as a one-term president (that is if he can win this year which I doubt) and worse, letting the Dems take both the House and Senate.

            Poll: Most Young People Dislike Trump, Say He’s Racist
            (Now you can add “Sexual Predator” too.)

            The key is to have a good, principled party that’d attract voters who are not yet fully republican-minded. Trump is “the worst” man to represent who we are.

  6. PLEASE ANSWER instead of going back to all other matters. This is a serious question and would you be able to become president without the millions Angelica??
    TRUMP – spends his own money and dares Hillary to do the same . I might even agree with him here

    BUT is this money tax deductible eventually I ask? I do not know therefore my question.

    BUT in a way he throws into the air that if YOU DO NOT USE YOUR OWN MONEY you are barred from ever becoming President……………..

    • Sure, it would be deductible, but that’s not the same as a credit. You can only deduct the taxable amount, so most of the money would still be out-of-pocket.

      On the other hand–a lot of the money has gone back into Trump companies, for various campaign services. Another example of handing money from the right hand to the left hand, back into the pocket.

      I agree with you that it was horrible that he tried to shame Hillary for self-funding. That would mean only millionaires would be able to run.

      • Thank you so much for taking time in briefing me , Wish you all the best

        I am posting something I heard from Trump on TV – he is definitely mental .
        Alan Cumming, scotish actor and writer -told Amanpour that Trump has mental issues
        – I agree , although we are not doctors

      • Agree. We are talking about the primaries. Not now. Now it is different.
        We also have other PACs that solicit money for ads.
        Bernie Sanders made it to the top… Even with all the blatant biased with his OWN party. So please, do not tell me it could not be done.
        She spends a ton more because she is UNLIKEABLE.

  7. I’ll give it to Hillary Clinton. She retained her comportment throughout the debate in spite of provocations by Trump. Her arguments were based on facts, while Trump heated up the debate with his anger, threats and frustration. Hillary was more “Presidential” than Trump, who displayed base sentiments throughout the period. Trump displayed too much evasiveness than befits one who seeks the office of the Commander – in – chief of the US. Dr David

  8. The emails: what’s so crucial about Hillary’s emails? Whether she used official facilities to send private emails, or she used private equipment to launch official emails, what we want to hear is the consequence. What damage have the emails done to the nation? Hillary has said no classified matters were disclosed in her correspondence. No one has countered this claim – the FBI did not, neither did Trump. The apprehension and elimination of the world’s no.1 terrorist, Osama bin Laden, during Secretary Hillary’s time is further credible testimony.

    • Edward Snowden’s revelations caused no “damage” either…… so Why is HE a Traitor ? You say she did no damage? THAT is beside the point – the point is others have been thrown in jail for much much less that what she did. SHe knew darn well that she was handling classified information – thousands and THOUSANDS of pieces of classified emails – YET, she chose NOT to follow the law and handle that information in such a way that is CLEARLY laid out for her. FYI – no one knows exactly what was in those emails…… and WHY IS THAT??? I’ll tell you why – because Hillary was served with supoenas for that information and immediately destroyed everything she could – and then used bleach to make sure that NO ONE could examine them EVER…… so, of course…. according to Killary – they contained nothing important…… c’mon people! Use your God given brains – oh that’s right….. i’m talking to Democrats who don’t believe in God…. their only diety is Hillary.

      • BREITBART says:

        “Snowden supporters claim none of the stories have damaged national security, but on the face of it this stretches common sense. For instance, a review by Associated Press in February 2014 found that six NSA employees had been accidentally named in the Snowden reporting due to redaction errors. . .

        “Snowden didn’t just give the South China Morning Post information about the NSA’s operations against Hong Kong and ‘the mainland’, i.e. China itself – self-evidently damaging US national security in the process . . .

        “I don’t think Snowden wanting to ingratiate himself to China excuses his damaging US national security.”

  9. The second debate proved Trump had to make apologies and that Hillary Clinton had to defend her email controversy. Politics is cut-throat and we, the American people, should be very attentive. While Trump doesn’t appear to be a good presidential pick, Hillary Clinton has adopted a strong war-hawk position against Russia. She lies in bed with the neo-conservatives who want to control the world for the globalist position. The American government, with the CIA, has been the instigator in the Syrian war and is aiding, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the terrorist factions fighting on the Syrian soil. America supports Al-Qaeda and and other terrorist groups. America should not go to war to upset the presidency of Assad. Just look what happened in Libya. There are Democrats that want war; but there are also Republicans that want war, too. And Trump stands in the Washington establishment’s way. I hope for a Trump presidency and I wish for the Republicans who stabbed their nominee in the back a great loss.

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