The word you might be thinking is “Benghazi,” but that’s only part of the story in this piece from CNN. The narrative doesn’t sort out well for the former Secretary of State when it comes to the decisions made in deposing Muammar Gaddafi, and the resulting anarchy which has reigned in Libya since that time.

Report from CNN:

Hillary Clinton has another Libya problem.

She’s already grappling with the political headaches from deleted emails and from the terror attack that left four Americans dead in Benghazi.

But she’ll face a broader challenge in what’s become of the North African country since, as secretary of state in 2011, she was the public face of the U.S. intervention to push out its longtime strongman, Moammar Gadhafi.

Libya’s lapse into the chaos of failed statehood has provided a breeding ground for terror and a haven for groups such as ISIS. Its plight is also creating an opening for Republican presidential candidates to question Clinton’s strategic acumen and to undermine her diplomatic credentials, which will be at the center of her pitch that only she has the global experience needed to be president in a turbulent time.

Gathering questions over Libya also point to one of the central complications of Clinton’s campaign for the Democratic nomination, due to formally launch on Saturday: the fact that she must own a record at the State Department that lacks clear-cut diplomatic triumphs. She’ll also have to answer for misfires in the Obama administration’s wider foreign policy as GOP candidates who have not faced the same tough choices can nitpick her record with the advantage of hindsight.

Libya has long been a vulnerability for Clinton because of the deaths of U.S. ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in an attack on the Benghazi consular building and a CIA installation on September 11, 2012.

But Republicans have yet to prove that she was personally negligent or to convince voters that she’s not fit for higher office because of the controversy. So now they’re opening a new front on the wisdom of the intervention itself.

Discussions over the Iraq War are well and good, but that is a foreign policy debate which we’ve been having for over a decade now. Mrs. Clinton’s Republican opponents will want to focus on the present and, specifically, on foreign policy decisions during President Obama’s term in which Hillary was a central player. She’ll be running on her qualifications as someone knowledgeable about how the world works. According to CNN, she has many weaknesses in this area that will come out during the course of the campaign.


  1. One would be hard pressed to come up with an example of U.S. meddling in foreign affairs that didn’t come back to bite since WWII.

    I just hope it gets figured out before it costs America its very existence.

  2. Please tell me what Hillary achieved as Sec of State…Please tell me what she achieved in senate while representing NY? I know as Sec of State she spent much time flying all over the world and only net result I know of are the paid speeches Bill gave to raise money for the Clinton Foundation. She lived in the White House, served in congress and the cabinet yet has done little to nothing to benefit the USA….But The Clinton Foundation has raised a ton of money that provides them ability to influence peddle on a grand scale.

      • Love all the non-contextualism and assorted highly edited snippets in the Carly Fiorina ad there.

        Ya gotta hand it to her. That’s quite the sense of humor. At least I hope so because that ad was a joke.

        A law school dropout, she joined HP in 1999 as CEO after a decent run at AT&T and its spinoff Lucent. By 2005, they were showing her the door after a $25 billion merger with Compaq fell a bit flat as did her later attempt to buy Sen. Boxer’s seat in 2010.

        The massive layoffs took their toll on company morale, and H-P did not end up gaining market share against IBM in the enterprise or Dell on the consumer side with HP-brand consumer electronic devices flopping.

        In fact, according to the London Observer, “Since the merger, HP has lost market share and failed to revive its profit margins. It lost the number one position in personal-computer market share last year to Dell. While the share price of Dell has soared over the past 18 months, HP’s has floundered. Indeed, the merger was so disastrous that Fiorina fought off three attempts to spin off HP’s highly profitable printer business and cut the PC business adrift. After her departure last week, shares in the company rose nearly 10 per cent on that prospect.” [2/13/05]

        Additionally, shareholders began to lose faith when stock values failed to recover from their tumble a few years earlier.

        When Fiorina took over in 1999, HP was regularly trading in the high $90s per share. A stock split put it in the mid $40s. By 2005, it hovered around $20 a share, if that.

        According to the AP, “Carly Fiorina’s nearly six-year reign at Hewlett-Packard Co. ended abruptly Wednesday as board members forced her out, disappointed by her inability to transform a plodding technology giant dominated by printer sales into a more nimble innovator. H-P’s stock, which has gone nowhere for two years and is down two-thirds from its peak in 2000, rose almost 7 percent after earlier soaring almost 11 percent on the news of her ouster.” [2/9/05]

        Then there’s all the backstabbing, corporate leaks, allegations of coercion causing Deutsche Bank to change their mind on their vote at literally the last minute which cost them $750,000 in SEC fines for conflict of interest, sheltering billions in profits overseas (yeah, that’s patriotic)…

        The Washington Post reported, “…Fiorina’s claim to fame was 5 1/2 rocky years at Hewlett-Packard, where she battled the company’s founding families to push forward with a $19 billion purchase of Compaq Computer in 2002, then failed to create the profitable computer giant she had promised. In February 2005, she was publicly ousted by HP’s board, but not before she ordered the first of a series of leak investigations that would spin into a highly publicized scandal.” [4/2/08]

        So, what we have here is yet another money-squirreling job cutter running for President as a job creator à la Rmoney who manages to irritate; not inspire.

        One of the many complaints about Obama has been his relative inexperience, politically speaking.

        Fiorina’s political acumen pales in comparison.

        I’ll pass, thanks.

          • BENJAMIN FRANKLIN — you are correct to post: ‘Yawn’ to ProgRep.

            Swastika Boy is a liberal shill that posts constant non-sequiturs hoping to advance his pernicious leftist agenda….and nothing else.

        • Steve Nickerson — spot on!

          Hillary’s run will expose so much of her dirty laundry, that eventually she’ll end up in Jail — where this Clinton belongs, not in the White House, where her ugliness dreams to be ….

    • Well, as Sec. of State she helped repair the effects of da shrub’s a badly damaging the U.S.’ reputation (which many on the right claim not to care about, but it irked them anyway); she advocated an expanded role in global economic issues for the State Department and cited the need for an increased U.S. diplomatic presence, especially in Iraq, where the DoD had conducted diplomatic missions; she unveiled the Global Hunger and Food Security program; she saved the signing of a Turkish-Armenian accord; and numerous other successes.

      As Senator she was instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site’s redevelopment; she subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues that 9/11 first responders were facing (which Republicans railed against); after visiting soldiers in Iraq she noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well; she noted that war deployments were draining regular and reserve forces, she co-introduced legislation to increase the size of the regular Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain and supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans; and more

      That was just in her first term. She was easily re-elected and accomplished much in her second term as well.

      She was neither a great Senator nor Sec. of State, but to say she accomplished nothing is less than accurate.

      • I made no statement as to her achievements but simply asked the question. You stated she was not a great Senator or Sec of State. Thing is to be president one should have an outstanding menu of achievements…She does not..

        • Here’s a bit of what Carly has to offer. HP, under Fiorina’s watch, laid off tens of thousands of employees, their jobs were shipped abroad and the company’s stock value
          plummeted some 50%. While this transition was going on Fiorina tripled her
          salary, bought a $1 million yacht and five corporate jets. Compaq chairman, Ben
          Rosen, wrote in 2008, “ Fiorina simply did not have the skills to manage one of
          the world’s largest technology companies”.

          • Yeah.

            When it comes to Carly,
            I’m thinking either,

            “I can get along without you very well,”
            “Haven’t got time for the pain.”

          • I never said I support Carly…I do not see Hillary as good for the USA…I also do not support Carly…Biden or Bernie Sander’s would be the best Democratics to run…Anybody except Hillary… Not sure who best from GOP would be…

            • Steve Nickerson — the best is Rand Paul.

              p.s. Tess Liehard and Swastika Boy are liberal shills that want the destruction of our Free Republic by having a leftist Big Government dictating our every facet of life!

        • That would be true if any of the other candidates were accomplished, but they’re not.

          Not a single one of them can lay claim to ANYTHING. Walker can claim union busting, but that cuts both ways. And all you have to do is remind people of Terry Schiavo, and people will flee from Bush like rats from a sinking ship. Perry can claim his “Texas miracle” but get him alone in a room and he makes Forrest Gump look like a genius.

          And Bernie has a message. It may make conservatives heads explode, but he has a message, and that message is resonating with a LOT of people. He may flame out yet, and in glorious style, but there has never been a time when a minority so successfully scoops up all the available wealth that people don’t start coming at them with pitchforks…and instead of allowing just a touch of downward income redistribution to alleviate the pressure, the right just keeps amping it up.

          Republicans are notorious for not believing in science, or putting faith over science, but you can only fool with Boyle’s Law so much without things going kaboom.

  3. Btw Nate, it should be, “anarchy which has reigned in Libya since that time.”

    Rein is to guide, or what’s used to guide. (Yeah, I eventually caught my own boo-boo up there)

      • The language is funny. When I first read the original, “anarchy which has reined in Libya since that time,” I took it to mean “reined-in,” as in “stifled,” so I thought the message was that anarchy has caused Libya to faulter. So it makes sense either way.

          • Number one: If you knew how to read, you would have understood that I was saying Nate was probably right, even when he did a typo.

            Number two: Regarding deleting, the rule is clear. If you do attacks on other posters, without offering anything in the way of discussion, it will be deleted. In this case, while you are both wrong and ridiculous, since you added the video link, one could say the post wasn’t a total waste of our time.

            Number three: “don’t you dare”–or what??

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