Call it a replay of the last 20+ years in politics. I’m willing to bet many Americans have had their fill of politicians named Bush or Clinton.

Report from Rasmussen:

The latest round of speculation about the 2016 presidential race stars former Florida Governor Jeb Bush whose Republican nomination could potentially lead to a matchup between two powerhouse political families. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton holds a double-digit lead over Bush in a hypothetical matchup, but half of voters are less likely to vote for Bush because of his family’s history in the White House.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that if the 2016 presidential election were held today, 47% of Likely U.S. Voters would choose Clinton, while 33% would opt for Bush. Fourteen percent (14%) prefer some other candidate, while six percent (6%) are undecided.

Food for thought if you’re a Republican who sees Jeb Bush is the “electable” one if Chris Christie doesn’t pan out.


  1. Now who is going to go out in the rain just to cast a vote for either one of them two shysters.

  2. Do not even consider Jeb Bush..his mom has the right idea… stay out of presidential politics…

  3. or Snow, which up north we know that one, but enough gotta vote for even a write-in so neither are elected – if we really are split between Liberal and Conservative, it doesn’t make sense that Clinton can win especially if most old timers are included in these polls.

    • Sam, I’m roughly your age and virtually all of my friends would love to see a woman become president. A liberal woman would probably care more about people than a male conservative and would probably care a lot less about throwing money at the Pentagon. We would also love to see another economy like we had under her husband with “surpluses as far as the eye can see.”

      • Godfrey – The one and only time I will ever respond to you: You are a far left Liberal, alien to the success of our Nation, Capitalism, and Constitution. And I’m sure all of your friends are the same!

        Condoleezza Rice is the only fully qualified woman to be our POTUS / CinC!

  4. A new Bush has emerged in Texas. This one is handsome, charming, and brightly ambitious. I’m not sure anyone knows exactly what P’s politics are but he ran as a Republican. This George Bush (George Prescott Bush) is half Hispanic, as his mother, Columba, was born in Mexico, the daughter of a migrant worker Jose MarÌa Garnica. He speaks Spanish fluently and insists he is a “Movement Conservative,” His uncle, George W, insisted that he was a Compassionate Conservative. I”m not sure what either tag actually means. Tuesday, “P” easily won the Republican nomination for Texas land commissioner and there is no doubt he will win in November. I do not think the outlook is as bright for his father, Jeb Bush.

  5. Godfrey…Since I can’t define a far left Liberal, I will respond to your post. I.hate to burst your bubble but Hillary Clinton is not a Liberal. She comes from a staunch Republican family and was very active in Republican campaigns until she married Bill Clinton. I do no not follow the thought of always voting a straight ticket. That is why we have such poor representation in Congress. A vote is precious and should not be given thoughtlessly. As Dwight Eisenhower said in a New Yorker interview:“I despise people who go to the gutter on either the right or the left and hurl rocks at those in the center.”

    To truly support most of your post you should read “Bulls, Bears and the Ballot Box” by Bob Deitrick and Lew Godlfarb. We, all. hold very strong opinions about parties and politics so it is necessary to look at historical facts to make intelligent decisions for the future.
    Since 1920:
    •Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
    •Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
    •Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
    •Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
    •Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
    •The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, administrations

    Here is a couple of bitter facts about President Obama:
    •Corporate profits have risen under Obama more than any other president
    •The stock market has soared 14.72%/year under Obama, second only to Clinton — which should be a big deal since 2/3 of people (not just the upper class) have a 401K or similar investment vehicle dependent upon corporate profits and stock market performance”

    • tess “trueheart” — are you sure your last name is not Liehard….since all these points are a LIE, and you try very HARD to make such false propaganda “true” throughout all your posts…!

      or are you just a good little shill for Obama & Co….?

      just asking….

      • And I.m just asking…Obvious…why are your posts all “snake oil”. Wild accusations without any validity.

        • Tess Liehard — you are the anathema to what a Real American stands for!

          So keep on posting your vile Dems tripe — it only helps folks to see through your perfidy, and vote against the Dems!

          Thanks — and keep on posting some more!


    • Tess: You should provide links to support stats that you provide. Otherwise, some moron will just deny them–without, of course, offering a shred of evidence for his criticism. (All heat and no light.)

      Wouldn’t it be nice if we had an INTELLIGENT discussion, in which one person offers facts to support her points (with sources), and if someone disagreed, he’d offer some (any) support (and factual sources) for his stand against you.

      Then we could weigh both sides and consider.

      • Goethe…I am appalled that you would ask me to do something that you so rarely do yourself. However, I will oblige you.
        Hillary Rodham Clinton:
        From: Living History … autobiography of Hillary Clinton
        “She grew up in Park Ridge, Ill., a Republican suburb of Chicago, and describes her father, Hugh Rodham Jr., as a “rock-ribbed, up-by-your-bootstraps, conservative Republican and proud of it” (page 11). Her 9th-grade history teacher was also a very conservative Republican who encouraged her to read Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater’s 1960 book, “Conscience of a Conservative,” which inspired Clinton to write a term paper on the American conservative movement. She worked for Republican Barry Goldwater’s campaign in 1964, and was even elected president of Wellesley College’s Young Republicans club. She canvassed and campaigned for Republican Richard Nixon for president. Due to issues like the Vietnam War however, Hilary left the Republican Party to help candidates like Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern”.
        The Eisenhower quote is from a 10/10/2012 Forbes -Adam Hartung the contributor.
        The remainder of the post is from “Bulls, Bears and the Ballot Box” by Bob Deitrick and Lew Godlfarb.

        Now for the post about about George “P” Bush. The elder Bushes and George W,when not in the White House, have live in Texas since 1942. Their coming and goings, their marriages and babies are all common Texas knowledge. Did you find it offensive that Jeb Bush married a beautiful migrant Mexican or that his son, Jebby, married a beautiful lady of Arabian persuasion. Just proves the power of love and everybody, at least in Texas, loves the fairy tale effect.

        Columba Bush was born as Columba Garnica Gallo in León, Guanajuato, Mexico, where she grew up and attended high school. Her parents were José María Garnica, a migrant worker, and Josefina Gallo. She met Jeb Bush in 1971 in León, where he was teaching English as part of a foreign exchange program. They were married on February 23, 1974, in Austin, Texas.[1] The couple have three children: George P. Bush, Noelle Bush and John Ellis Bush, Jr.
        Bush’s relationship with her mother was the subject of a brief profile in the book Mamá: Latina Daughters Celebrate Their Mothers by María Pérez-Brown (ISBN 0-06-008386-7). Her parents divorced in 1963. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        Peter Grier, Staff writer / March 5, 2014 Christian Science Monitor ” He has called himself a “movement conservative,” as opposed to uncle W’s “compassionate conservative” Texas tag.

        .If you don’t know that “P” won the election Tuesday as Texas Land Commissioner….you are lost anyway.

        The remark on Jeb Bush is simply my opinion.

    • Tess, I have no argument with your post about Hillary not being a bona fide liberal, but compared to the many fascists in the Republican Party, the Tea Party, and on this forum, she and Obama ARE liberals, although I have many policy disagreements with both of them.

  6. I believe that a number of Democrats think they will get “two for one” if they elect Mrs. Clinton. But based on her recent comments about Hitler I doubt if she ever discusses anything with Mr. Clinton. The Republicans need to stop tearing each other apart in the primary. If they can’t put the country first then how can we ask the citizens to do so?

    • Bev: In case someone is not aware, your reference to Clinton and Hilter is Hillary’s recent comment that Putin’s move into Crimea compared to the Nazis going into Poland in 1939.

      The problem is saying so. Once you make the comparison, you give people the impression that you want to see a world war to rectify it. And, of course, comparing someone to Hitler in public makes it nearly impossible to negotiate with that person.

      • Associated Press in Washington
        the guardian Thur 6 March 2014
        Hillary Clinton said, quote “The claims by President Putin and other Russians that they had to go into Crimea and maybe further into eastern Ukraine because they had to protect the Russian minorities, that is reminiscent of claims that were made back in the 1930s when Germany under the Nazis kept talking about how they had to protect German minorities in Poland and Czechoslovakia and elsewhere throughout Europe,”

        “I just want everybody to have a little historic perspective. I am not making a comparison, certainly. But I am recommending that we perhaps can learn from this tactic that has been used before.”

        Sen. Rand Paul March 9, 2014 In an op-ed for TIME, Sen. Rand Paul said “Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is a gross violation of that nation’s sovereignty and an affront to the international community His continuing occupation of Ukraine is completely unacceptable and Russia’s President should be isolated for his actions.It is America’s duty to condemn these actions in no uncertain terms. It is our role as a global leader to be the strongest nation in opposing Russia’s latest aggression.

        Putin must be punished for violating the Budapest Memorandum, and Russia must learn that the U.S. will isolate it if it insists on acting like a rogue nation.

        John McCain (Tweeted) ? @SenJohnMcCain
        She’s right on this comparison: “Hillary Clinton compares Putin actions in Ukraine to Adolf Hitler’s in Nazi Germany”
        10:58 AM – 5 Mar 2014

        John McCain ? @SenJohnMcCain

        She’s right on this comparison: “Hillary Clinton compares Putin actions in Ukraine to Adolf Hitler’s in Nazi Germany” …
        10:58 AM – 5 Mar 2014

        Robert Gates 03/09/2014 10:58 am Huffington Post “I don’t think he will stop in Ukraine until there is essentially a pro-Russian government in Ukraine, in Kiev. I think considerable care needs to be taken in terms of what is said, so that the rhetoric doesn’t threaten what policy can’t deliver. Russian President Vladimir Putin holds most of the high cards in Crimea and Ukraine as a whole”

        .’It seems to me that trying to speak with one voice — one American voice — seems to have become a quaint thing of the past. I regret that enormously.”

        • Tess – All three you quoted are correct – Hillary: Putin’s making a Hitler move (and has nads and $ invested) – Paul: He’s bad for the world, isolate him economically – Gates: careful of rhetoric, don’t let your alligator mouth overload your canary butt.

          And yes Obama has made us canaries.

            • Tess – been so long since i heard or seen the word i had to look it up, slept a lot since then – So, YES! I don’t think there is a politician anywhere that doesn’t obfuscate or bloviate. Besides, telling it straightforward really paints themselves into a corner.

  7. James: Because this is AMERICA–and our oligarch system is not supposed to be so obvious. . . .

    • Goethe – even on the surface oligarchy is obvious – if the successful president nominee isn’t already wealthy, then someone very wealthy will back them and rally the media and party – especially if a Democrat nominee.

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