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Polls seem to indicate the Republican Party generally took most of the blame following the Government shutdown at the beginning of October. This sentiment is having a ripple effect on many of the potential 2016 GOP contenders.

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Report from Red Alert Politics:

It’s not a secret that many of the key Republican players in the government shutdown are aspiring 2016 presidential candidates. But did their role in the whole ordeal help or hinder their chances at winning the GOP nomination for President in 2016?

Some of the players were obvious winners (see: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan) while others may have seen their stars diminish over the past two weeks. And with nearly half of all Republicans disapproving of how the party was behaving during the shutdown, many of the candidates discussed below will have some work to do if they are going to stay credible candidates moving forward.

Here’s the order Red Alert Politics ranks each GOP contender:

1. Chris Christie
2. Ted Cruz
3. Paul Ryan
4. Marco Rubio, Rand Paul and Mike Lee (tied)

Conventional wisdom still holds Chris Christie as, perhaps, the one to beat in the GOP field. Is this a case of the media picking candidates or does Christie stand the best shot?

I’m not sure I agree with Paul Ryan being so high on that list. After watching his 2012 performance, I just don’t think he has the right combination of personality and appeal to actually carry a general election.

43 COMMENTS

  1. There’s no surprise that Republicans took most of the blame for the shutdown. Cruz bragged about it. The question should have been, was it a worthy cause? Like any other battle, history is told by the victor. If Obama had caved, instead of “blame,” we’d be talking about “praise” for what Fox inexplicably called the “government slimdown.”

    Likewise, the hysteria is unfounded. There is no way the GOP can lose the House, and there’s so much time to the election that the Senate will be a toss-up by then.

    As for the candidates, here are my impressions:

    • Chris Christie:
    ……….Fraternity Rush Chairman (everybody’s buddy)

    • Ted Cruz:
    ……….TV Weatherman (goes which way the wind blows)

    • Paul Ryan:
    ………Your Ex-Wife’s Lawyer (mechanical, legalistic)

    • Marco Rubio:
    ……….Foreigner (but he SO wants to be like us)

    • Rand Paul:
    ……….Ron Paul (with better hair and negotiable ethics)

    • Mike Lee:
    ……….Used Car Salesman (knows what’s best for you)

    The GOP has a deep bench. Rand is the best bet so far. Christie could take the battle to some Blue States. Why are the rest of these losers even being considered? Bring up somebody from the minors!!

    • See Goethe we do have a bit in common & can agree on something… I would vote Rand & have even donated to his 2016 PAC : )

      • Ilee: My only concern about Rand is that he is NOT Ron. He does the political thing, just to be popular. Hell, he even bailed on his dad while his dad was still in the race. That just struck me as both disloyal to family AND political opportunism. Then there was the episode of speaking in front of the Christian group, and said he’d put American lives on the line for any Christian anywhere. That was opportunism bordering on treason.

        But, you know, other than that, he’s the MVP.

  2. I think Ted Cruz is someone to watch-he says it like it is & he makes a lot of sense-heaven knows the GOP needs some young blood & someone who really listens & cares about the people of the wonderful USA.

  3. Well, a Democrats Black won, can a Republican/TeaParty win?? I believe West, Carson, or Rice would be better candidates than any that Goethe mentioned except maybe a Paul/Ryan ticket. i might even go for Napolitano.

    • Sam: Yeah. That’s what I was saying. But Nate just gave us the Red Alert list, and I was working off that.

  4. Goethe behr : cruz stands as firm and straight as the pole that holds the flag up..you must be on some of that wacky weed paul stands for and Christie is a dem, and we’ve had enough of them.

  5. The electorate has a VERY short memory & is easily distracted … Now that they are getting hit with Obamacare & the flop of the enrollment site … That will shift focus… By the time primaries get here …they’ll be getting their pockets (IRS refunds) picked by Obamacare’s penalties!

    Just wait for that sh!t storm, the partial Gov shutdown will be dead & gone when that little nugget rolls around & everyone out there not paying attention gets blind sided by that one…

    • Ilee Carr — correct, by the 2014 elections the Obamination “Care” will have done its horrendous damage to ALL Americans.

      Hopefully this will be the wake-up call — and the patriots of this nation will win come 2014!

  6. Republicans should stop treating Obam as a terrorist, they are showing this type of an attitude from the begining with no support. Let American people decide whether or not they want obamacare, if it fails it will be a stand point for 2016 polls for republicans.

    • The American people have already made it abundantly clear that we want no part of that socialized medicine scheme. When it was first forced upon us by the dictator-in-chief, fully 75% of the electorate vehemently opposed it and even now it is opposed by fully 2/3 of the electorate and now 83% of physicians. When even HHS head Sebelius and the Congress choose to exempt themselves from it, you know it is not good for America. Check out the videos on the topic by John Stossel at you tube to find out that countries like Canada where it has been tried have people so desperate for decent care they were coming here to survive. If that disaster is implemented against the expressed will of “We the People” neither we nor the Canadians will have anywhere to go for decent health care, in addition to which we will have become a de facto dictatorship, and that does not historically end well. Run, Ted, Run, we’re behind your candidacy for 2016 all the way to the Oval Office!

  7. They had better not make Christie the nominee, another RINO like McCain and Romney would then become the actual DEATH of the GOP and I hope that the party of life with which I have been voting these past 40 years would be wiser than to commit political suicide that way. Ted Cruz for President in 2016!!

  8. So it starts…They are already trying to make our minds up for us. Given the dismal failure of the ACA, the guys in blue are preparing for a meal of crow. What the House of representatives did was to try and prevent this. It was the stubbornness of Harry Reid and the ego of Barack Obama that shut down the government. No they could not agree to delay & fix for a year, now it looks like they are going to have to. 634 million is it , for a system that is so flawed it is laughable if not so sad. Who ever said Cruz goes the way of the wind must have been in a coma for the last month. However, the media and the “in the tank GOP bosses” got Obama elected twice so we may be stuck with Christie. But the fat lady has not sung in my opinion

    • I tend to think at this point and surely both Rush and Sean would agree that if our Republican party nominates glaring RINO Christie in the tradition of McCain and Romney, then the party has at that point signed it’s own epitaph and the conservative base will be left iwith no reasonable choice but to move out under a new banner such as perhaps that of th Constitution Party to start over with a clean slate in the determination to steer the ship of state back onto a conservative path before it ends up sinking altogether kike the Titanic – run, Ted, RUN!

  9. I am putting my bet on Rand Paul/Ted Cruz for 2016. Ted, while highly educated and a brilliant debator needs to learn how the establishment works and how the “game” works. Rand would help shrink our bloated government and he has had many years of watching his father do business in Washington in addition to being a senator longer than Cruz.

    While the RHINO’s and other establishment players dissed Cruz/Paul/Lee for their stunt. United, they made a lot of noise and captured
    America’s attention for 16 days! They also directed our focus on Obamacare. I don’t think Obamacare would have gotten all the publicity if there had not been a government shutdown. Kathleen Sebelius (aka “Cruella Deville”) is still in denial about bad it was executed and how the words “Affordable Health Care” only applies to a select few that FINANCIALLY qualify for subsidies.

    The one thing that we must all KEEP in mind is this: We are merely spectators. The “players”, the power brokers are the ones in Congress; The President and his appointed administration. Like most good actors, they know what mask to put on, what strings to pull, and how to stir up their constituents.

    What we need are a few more political parties! Parties that represent the people’s will better! The Two party system will remain corrupt because they remain in control even though the scales tip in one direction, once in awhile.

    If Paul/Cruz/Rubio don’t get on the GOP ticket, then they better think about starting their own party!!!! It shouldn’t take millions of dollars to elect a President/Vice President!

    • Cruz spent over 21 hours speaking out against Obama-non-Care reflecting the expressed will of We the People to have it defunded followed by a full repeal. Paul stood with him in the matter as did Lee, Sessons, Rubio et. al. but it was Cruz who showed the necessary spinal column in leadership to take that strong stand against it on our behalf in the first place. Obama was only a junior senator when he was unconstitutionally sent to the Oval Office whereas Cruz is qualified and has proven his conservative credentials honorably at this point. He could easily bring on board the Hispanic vote across the nation as well as the Republican conservative base. Run, Ted, RUN…this patriot and so many others support you all the way to the White House!

  10. Victoria, I agree that Cruz is “Presidential” material, but he has only been a senator for 10 months! Rand, on the other hand has two years under his belt as a Senator and is just as smart (He is an Opthomalogist)and more qualified. There is no substitute for experience and Rand has seven years age-wise on Ted. Ted has plenty of time to run and if he is smart, he will find some old gray dogs in Congress from whom he can receive some mentoring from.

    I’ve seen alot of young guns try to ramrod an establishment, disregard the wiser members; discount experience, only to crash and burn!

    Ted is a natural leader and he learned alot by watching his father work in Ronald Reagan’s campaign. He has similar Reagan traits~ a quick wit; a repore with the common man/woman; and someone who can think outside the box.

    Cruz would help bring in the Hispanic vote and he already has the evangelical vote (especially if he isn’t hard on illegal immigration), but Rand could bring in the Libertarians and the Independents. All four groups are needed to win the Presidency!

    The other “un-known” is how Paul/Cruz will do during the Presidential primaries. Will they “play nice” or will they go into attack mode?I for one don’t want to see another Rick Perry beatdown.

    ~ Daisy

    • I do not see Senator Cruz having any problem bringing in libertarians (like Glenn Beck, who is already very much in his favor and has publicly declared as much on his widely televised and radio broadcast network, theblaze.com) or independent voters. Every patriot who shares family values and the concerns for bringing about smaller government as well as stopping the monstrosity we face in Obama-non-Care should be able to strongly support a Cruz candidacy. He just spoke on a T.E.A. Party Patriots tele-townhall tonight and his message resonates very well with the electorate. His stand against that deadly bill was over 21 hours on the Senate floor, nearly twice as long as was spent by Senator Paul in his fillibuster against the drones, and Senator Paul joined him in that long stand as did Senators Lee, Rubio, Sessions, and some others, but it was Senator Cruz who took the leadership in holding that stand to begin with and through it proved his determination to see to it that America was given the best possible opportunity to put a stop to that bill which even now is poised to kill the economy followed by the electorate. I firmly believe he would make an awesome candidate for the Presidency on the Republican ticket in 2013 and while he is a member of the party he, like Sarah Palin, will not hesitate to speak truth to power whether error and danger is proposed by the DNC or his own party. His dedication to doing what is right for America has proven to be unwavering and it seems to me that he represents our best chance of getting America back onto a rightward path following elections in 2016. Let’s not make the same mistake made in 2008 and 2012 through failure to get behind the strongest proven conservative to have stepped forward in defending our values. America cannot afford the disaster of another Obamunist type Occupancy of the Oval Office which would most likely leave the nation forever relegated to the ash heap of history. Now that would indeed be a tragic end to the Founder’s legacy. I stand with Ted.

      • The one thing that you are discounting Victoria is this. Whoever is elected President, will still have to WORK with the two other powers ~ The Senate and the House. Have you ever worked with a group of people with diverse ideas/goals? It is very difficult to get everything that you want or think is important. Most of the time, you have to compromise to gain a little ground.

        Ted is good at rallying the masses that support his causes/beliefs. He has well honed oratory skills and like anyone who has mastered a talent/skill, he like to impress others with his mastery.

        While at Princeton, he competed for the American Whig-Cliosophic Society’s Debate Panel and won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship. In 1992, he was named U.S. National Speaker of the Year and Team of the Year (with his debate partner, David Panton). Cruz was also a semi-finalist at the 1995 World Universities Debating Championship.[Source: Wikipedia]

        I too think that Ted is a natural leader and someone to keep an eye on. With that being said, I stand with Rand because of his experience and because he has been around the “establishment” for many years and knows how the system works. Rand also proposes solutions (currently he is drafting a bill that require everyone to adhere to ALL Laws without exemption) and he upholds and fights for the principles that are stated in our Constitution!

        • Due to being Senator Cruz, Ted is already working with that branch of the government so then as President he would only have to deal in addition to that with the House. Since we already have a Republican majority in the House, that should be no insurmountable challenge for a President Cruz. Since he is already representing his state in the Senate, he has been acquiring the skills of compromise needed there yet he has the moral fortitude and strength of spinal column regarding values to stand strong in refusing to compromise on the most important principles and that is the fighting spirit we need from a principled conservative in the Oval Office leading America past the election in 2016. Knowing how important respect for the Constitution has been to the survival of our democratic republic and with a family background that understands from painful experience how important it is to fight for and defend in order to protect our foundations in freedom, it seems to me that Senator Cruz is well equipped to lead America in the administration to follow the current Obamunist disaster.

          • Victoria, a report came out yesterday saying that 49% of all Americans now receive some form of government support. It has grown substantially under Obama’s presidency. Whoever gets the GOP nomination, better tread carefully with their talk of slashing programs and ending relief. There are manly Americans who don’t vote for principles, but for WHOEVER will give them the most stuff. The GOP has to get in step with the times and stop alienating the younger voters and the ones who depend on government help.

            Their platform should be creating better jobs; growing the economy; and providing educational opportunities for ALL, regardless of your income and your family’s income.

            • The Republican party is the one that is well known for job creation. In fact, Republican three term Governor (the most popularly elected governor in the history of the state of Texas) Rick Perry presided over a state that was responsible for the most job creation in the nation during the first two years of Obama’s Oval Office Occupancy. Democrats like to try to paint us as the party of racism and opression of the poor but when you look at the history and at the facts, it is the DNC that is to blame for those issues being a problem in our society, not the GOP. When voters do their homework, they will find that to be a fact.

            • I am as a disabled citizen on government assistance and that does not stop me from voting pro-life, pro-family, pro-strong national defense Republican and while the Republican party is the party of smaller government it was the depraved DNC who for the first time in our history eliminated the previously automatic Socual Security cost of living increase for the first three years of Obama’s first term, all the while his White House staff cronies were receiving a whopping 48% increase to their six figure salaries within the first 2 of those years, a bit like Robin Hood in reverse, robbing from the poor to give to the rich. When it comes to a President Cruz, I do not think you will need to be unduly concerned about a lack of compassion for the elderly or the poor, which has already proven to be the province of the constantly misspeaking DNC which claims to be for us but then consistently works against us. I vote with the Republican party of life and stand with Senator Ted Cruz for President in 2016.

        • Daisy – unless your name is Obama and have the MSM as a hemorrhoid, then you don’t have to “compromise” with anyone or anything, just shrug off responsibility and keep on “truckin'”

          • Sam, That seems to be how our Commander-in-Thief rolls. It is also the reason our country is so divided and why people are so frustrated with him!

            • I have served, or at least been subject to the UCMJ, since Ike. Obama makes Cater seem like a Saint but just a misguided Officer out of his depth. Obama is bent on transforming this nation into a second rate socialized nation. The only POTUS / CinC that i truly despise and disrespect. And as a Naval Officer my allegiance is to the Constitution not the CinC. Three years left!!! We so badly need a Republican congress out of the ’14 elections so we can neutralize this traitor .

          • samreusser — Obama is not only a traitor, but he may also be an impostor (Kenyan born usurper of our White House).

            As such, he needs not only be impeached, but also jailed for life!

            • Surfisher is correct. You need go no further than the you tube video entitled “Born in Kenya II” to hear Obama’s own paternal grandmother, his “Mama Sara”, proudly claiming to have been an eye-witness to his birth, there in Mombasa, Kenya and if that is correct he is the Occupant of the Oval Office rather than the President due to the lack of Constitutional qualifications to take that job in the first place. Everything he has signed his name and applied the seal of our Presidency to has therefore been the work of an impostor. Someone commented years ago (was it Allan Keyes?) that Obama’s presidency may be the biggest hoax ever put over on the American electorate. What a disgrace! The worst of it is that the other two branches of government which our Founders intended to function protectively as checks and balances to the Presidency have not lifted an effective finger to put a stop to the usurpations. May God save America!

            • Victoria DeLacy — the easiest solution is to impeach Obama on his failure to provide a valid birth certificate, which he STILL refuses to do!

              Once proven he’s not born in the USA — all his anti-American “laws” will become null and void!

              As you state in your excellent post above!: “Everything he has signed his name and applied the seal of our Presidency to has therefore been the work of an impostor”!

              Contact Texas congressman Steve Stockman:

              326 Cannon House Office Building
              Independence Avenue
              Washington, DC 20515
              Phone: 202-225-1555
              Fax: 202-226-0396

              Call him and demand that an investigation be started in Congress ASAP as to Obama’s failure to JUST SHOW HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE — not copies, since no US Citizen could get anywhere with a Copy, but MUST show the ORIGINAL (so what makes Barrack Hussein Obama ABOVE the Law NOT TO DO what WE ALL American Citizens are FORCED by LAW to do)!

              Why won’t Obama show his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate — “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about!” (that is his mantra on the NSA spying on US)!

              Why won’t the NSA apply this to Obama — find out where he was ACTUALLY born! After all, isn’t he supposed to be just like one of us (no lower or higher than any US Citizen) — or does the NSA consider Obama their Dictator in Chief, and therefore UNTOUCHABLE?

              Surely if, We the Citizens, press our Representatives to force this issue — we may find some Patriots in Congress and Senate, that are willing to risk their cushy jobs for the SAKE of Righting a Wrong!

              So keep on calling your Reps — demand Obama gets investigated on publishing a Fake Copy of his Birth Certificate, and tell him if he fails to provide the Original, he’ll be eventually impeached and send to jail for being an Impostor!

            • Thank you for that contact info. I very gladly left that message for Congressman Stockman and hope that everyone else seeing this did the same. It has been frustrating to see the current Oval Office Occupant get away with such glaring assaults upon our Constitution without so much as a challenge from the other two branches of our government, which are supposed to act as checks and balances upon the presidency. Even when an investigator had the “birth certificate” produced by Obama examined by a forensics expert and PROVEN to have been a multi-layered Adobe photoshop fake produced on a computer, no one stepped forward to force him to either produce a valid document or step down from the Presidency! It is very alarming to me and to many others throughout the nation that we find ourselves living in a time when some people (as in this Occupant and previously Bill Clinton who was never appropriately indicted and removed despite having been successfully impeached for perjury) are allowed to remain above the law when it comes to their obviously illegal activity. May God save America!

    • No, that is another one making the same point. I am making reference to the one entitled “Born in Kenya II” which features his paternal grandmother whom he refers to as his “Mama Sara” and she speaks with pride of having been an eye-witness to his birth there in Mombasa, Kenya. While I cannot post it,. the video has been out there at you tube for years so there is absolutely no excuse for our elected representatives to have failed to act upon further investigating the matter considering they had available the eye-witness testimone of one of Obama’s close relatives concerning the matter and it does not get much more convincing than that. So much for the “birther” epithets! The truth will be made known.

      • Victoria DeLacy — I tried to find that one, but could not (so posted the above video).

        The easiest solution is to impeach Obama on his failure to provide a valid birth certificate, which he STILL refuses to do!

        Once proven he’s not born in the USA — all his anti-American “laws” will become null and void!

        As you state in your excellent post above!: “Everything he has signed his name and applied the seal of our Presidency to has therefore been the work of an impostor”!

        Contact Texas congressman Steve Stockman:

        326 Cannon House Office Building
        Independence Avenue
        Washington, DC 20515
        Phone: 202-225-1555
        Fax: 202-226-0396

        Call him and demand that an investigation be started in Congress ASAP as to Obama’s failure to JUST SHOW HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE — not copies, since no US Citizen could get anywhere with a Copy, but MUST show the ORIGINAL (so what makes Barrack Hussein Obama ABOVE the Law NOT TO DO what WE ALL American Citizens are FORCED by LAW to do)!

        Why won’t Obama show his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate — “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about!” (that is his mantra on the NSA spying on US)!

        Why won’t the NSA apply this to Obama — find out where he was ACTUALLY born! After all, isn’t he supposed to be just like one of us (no lower or higher than any US Citizen) — or does the NSA consider Obama their Dictator in Chief, and therefore UNTOUCHABLE?

        Surely if, We the Citizens, press our Representatives to force this issue — we may find some Patriots in Congress and Senate, that are willing to risk their cushy jobs for the SAKE of Righting a Wrong!

        So keep on calling your Reps — demand Obama gets investigated on publishing a Fake Copy of his Birth Certificate, and tell him if he fails to provide the Original, he’ll be eventually impeached and send to jail for being an Impostor!

      • Victoria DeLacy —

        The easiest solution TO STOP OBAMACARE FROM DESTROYING US, is to impeach Obama on his failure to provide a valid birth certificate, which he STILL refuses to do!

        Call your Reps AND ALSO FAX them the below (since phone calls never get you to your actual Representative) — FAX this:
        ———————————————————————————————–

        “We demand that an investigation be started in Congress BY YOU, dear Congressman, as to Obama’s failure to SHOW HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS OF YET — no copies, please, since no US Citizen could get anywhere with a Copy, but MUST show the ORIGINAL (what makes Barrack Hussein Obama ABOVE the Law NOT TO DO what WE ALL American Citizens must do)!
        Why won’t Obama show his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate — “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about!” (that is his mantra on the NSA spying on US)! So, what is Barrack Hussein Obama hiding from Congress and We the People — as per this video:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px9XtjUAIzs

        Dear Congressman, if you are unwilling to start such an investigation, be assured we won’t be willing to cast our votes for you come election time!”
        ———————————————————————————————-

        Fax this Patriot in my home state (and also your Reps):

        Texas congressman Steve Stockman:

        Fax: 202-226-0396

        • Surf: What does this have to do with how the shutdown impacts the GOP?? Irrelevant, as usual.

          Nate already warned you about copying and pasting from one thread to another. Stop abusing the system.

          • Is your name Victoria DeLacy …?

            Goethe Behr — you mean like the below post you copied and pasted on all previous threads?

            Get a life — lowlife. You are nothing here, but the forum’s #1 dolt…now that Tess Liehard is gone (if she comes back, then you’ll be a number two…again….).
            ————————————————————————————–

            Goethe Behr — October 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm ·

            “…Both houses just voted unanimously to pay government workers retroactively for time lost. I mean, it was a nice thing to do, for people who are being used as pawns.

            HOWEVER, how can Tea Party legislators rationalize paying people for NOT working?? Isn’t that exactly counterpoint to the Tea Party philosophy? If they’re not on salary, shouldn’t they be paid only for the hours they work?”

          • I have been doing everything possible to get that issue addressed since it first came up. It is frustrating that we had Sherriff Arpaio stating unequivocally that he was going after the evidence and was going to force the issue on behalf of the American people, then after the mysterious and questionable sudden death of Andrew Breitbart (coincidentally taking place shortly after he directly threatened to thoroughly vet Obama before the next election in the effort to keep him from being able to run for office again) not another word was heard about the evidence that Arpaio had supposedly uncovered. I am reminded of the huge poster created back when Bill Clinton was in office showing how many people ended up either dead or incarcerated and the quip of a heading declared “One thing you can say about the Clintons, at least their friends have convictions!”. When so many mysterious and unresolved deaths happen surrounding a person in high office, it tends to act as a deterrent to the truth being published…until that person leaves office upon which someone makes a literal fortune on blockbuster books written with what Paul Harvey would have called “the rest of the story”. They are still trying to resolve issues dating back to JFK half a century ago, so we can lobby and pray but I would not hold my breath over any results this year. Indeed, it is a disgrace when so many remain above the law but that is the predicament in which we find the nation’s political system today. May God save America.

  11. Today’s news is that Chuck Schumer has endorsed Hillary. That’s not exactly a “GOP 2016 field” item, but there’s nowhere else to put it. And, besides, I brought it up to ask a question:

    If someone “endorses” a candidate at this early stage, couldn’t he say “at this point” he thinks she’s a great candidate? If someone else pops up later, couldn’t he change his mind? After all, an “endorsement” is not the same as saying NOBODY else is worthy.

    Is there history of people changing their endorsements? I’m too lazy to research it today; wondered if anyone knows.

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