Some fun-filled data to examine since we’re sitting here in 2013 discussing an election that doesn’t happen until 2016. What about those of us who were doing the same thing in 2005 about an election that wasn’t happening until 2008?

Here is some of the ancient polling data to look at from August of 2005:

An August 2005 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll (MoE ± 5) showed that Rudy Giuliani (27%) , John McCain (24%) and Condoleezza Rice (19%) had the most support among nine Republican candidates [Virginia Senator George Allen, Kansas Senator Sam Brownback, Tennessee Senator Bill Frist, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel, Arizona Senator John McCain, New York Governor George Pataki, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney].

The top three Democratic candidates were Hillary Rodham Clinton (40%) , John Kerry (16%) and John Edwards (15%) ; there were eight candidates in the survey (Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Delaware Senator Joe Biden, retired general Wesley Clark, New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, former North Carolina senator John Edwards, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, Virginia Governor Mark Warner). A June FOX poll had similar result for the Democratic nominees.

A July 2005 Gallup poll matched Democrat Hillary Clinton against Republican John McCain. With a ME +/- 4%, this survey showed 50% leaning towards McCain and 45% leaning towards Clinton.

In 2005, Giuliani or McCain were seen as front-runners for the GOP. That is actually reasonably close to reality since McCain, of course, went on to be the GOP nominee in 2008.

On the Democratic side, look at the 40% support Hillary Clinton was drawing in 2005 prior to the 2008 election. Funnier still is that Barack Obama isn’t even in the list of potential candidates Gallup was offering in their poll question.

More interesting is the last question listed which showed a hypothetical Clinton/McCain match-up where McCain wins 50% of the vote to Clinton’s 45%. Could there have been a President McCain if Hillary Clinton was the nominee in 2008 instead of Barack Obama?


  1. So America stated that before I’d support any of you well know shysters we would vote for a black politician from Chicago. Now maybe if they could have run a rabid dog form a local dog pound it might have won but no way were they going to support anyone of them shysters put before the voters.

  2. I don’t understand being “for” a candidate. It’s some kind of hero worship or desire to “belong,” I guess. I just listen to each of them, and guess who seems to be the least dangerous.

    The 2005 poll is typical of most elections. Republicans line up years in advance, but Democrats scramble. (Stevenson was the notable anomaly.) The fact that Hillary looks like such an obvious choice suggests that she’s drawing the attention until the real candidate pops up.

  3. IMPEACH Barack Hussein Obama — it stumbles-and-bumbles AND STUTTERS (which is usual for this political creature to try and come up with an answer it is not prepared for) while trying to decide what it is: A DICTATOR or NOT…!


    Time to IMPEACH — make this SUPERB 15 minute video viral.

    If any of you here are true Americans — contact your Reps and DEMAND they start Impeachment Proceedings NOW!

    It’s our nation to lose, folks, if we do nothing!

  4. *Ron Paul Discusses the Ron Paul Channel and the NSA Spying Program*

    The True American Patriot, Ron Paul, is now UNSTOPPABLE — beware Obama and other Government crooks that want to usurp our Government — your time is nigh! Ron Paul has now his own News Channel — it started Monday the 12th, 2013!!!

  5. ***The Ron Paul Revolution WILL Be Televised!***

    As I stated many months ago — a Ron Paul NO LONGER constrained by the necessity to navigate the pernicious loops-and-turns placed by the RNC (with the American traitor Reince Priebus heading this neo-con club) to win the Republicon’s nomination, he, Ron Paul will become a force to be reckoned!

    Now, that Ron Paul has retired, he is devoting all his patriotic All-American energies to put an end to the wannabe Despot Obama and all its anti-American cronies!

    Make this 3 minute video VIRAL !!!

  6. Are there no two honest men left in the US Congress and Senate — to start the NEEDED Impeachment Process of Obama, the creature that is hell bent on destroying our Constitution, our freedoms, our privacy, our prosperity, our way-of-life and our nation as a whole ?!

    Are all Congressmen and Senators so concerned for what’s best for them — to get reelected or run for some office — that NONE care to risk their positions to do what’s right to save our Nation from this Obamination?!

    Start calling them all — and ask them why they are complacent to this criminal act perpetrated against the American people!

    A sad day in today’s America — if no two honest people can be found in office!


  7. Hillary will be the “jon mccain” of the democratic party in 2016. she is the “been there done that got the t-shirt.” She has a personality that will rub people wrong, and a Dr. Carson or Christie will wipe her out, and even Cruz will most likely beat her. Join the Reform Party, moderates need a home.

Comments are closed.