Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, son of current GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul, has recently come out to endorse Mitt Romney for President. Rand Paul had previously been supporting his father up to this point but it appears that nearing the end of the primaries served as a tipping point.

Report from Business Insider:

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul broke ranks with his father’s political army this week and endorsed Mitt Romney as the Republican Party presidential nominee, setting off a firestorm of outrage in the Ron Paul Universe.

The virulent backlash indicates that the endorsement could have harmful political ramifications for the Kentucky Senator, raising doubts about his ability to unite his father’s grassroots army with more mainstream elements of the Republican Party base.

“I think Rand Paul believed he could build from his father’s base,” said Brian Doherty, a journalist who has been covering the Ron Paul Revolution since the late 1990s. “But I think he has probably found in the last 24 hours that this might prove more difficult than he expected.”

But Doherty told Business Insider that he was not completely surprised that Sen. Paul opted to endorse Romney. Unlike his father, Paul has frequently shown a willingness to work with the GOP Establishment, and has previously indicated that he planned on getting behind whoever his party picked as the nominee.

“There are a lot of Ron Paul people who like to think of themselves as a ragtag rebel army,” Doherty said. “But Rand Paul is clearly positioning himself to play the part of the loyal opposition in the Republican Party. Emphasis on loyal.”

What was surprising about the endorsement, Doherty said, was its timing.

Although Ron Paul has admitted he is no chance of winning the GOP nomination, he is still technically running for president and announced earlier this week that he expects to have 200 bound delegates at the Republican National Convention this summer. Moreover, his campaign is still encouraging supporters to try to get elected as national delegates at state and local party conventions.

“It seems like a gratuitous kick in the face to his father’s most ardent supporters,” Doherty said, adding that the endorsement seems to indicate that “Rand Paul might have less respect for the grassroots movement than he ought to.”

There are many Ron Paul supporters reading and commenting here, what are your thoughts? Does it matter?

44 COMMENTS

  1. I believe that as much as Rand Paul loves and admire his father, he is a bright grown up man with the right to use his own brain and reality. I had the bumper sticker of Ron Paul on my car, but as soon as Romney made it as the GOP candidate, I changed the sticker. I wish Romney would give Ron Paul the position in the Federal Reserve.
    I wish the Tea Party will come to realize that Obama needs replacement at any price! The discrepances amoong GOP is a success for Obama, the Devil’s Advocate followed by abortionists and homosexuals.

  2. I am an ardent Ron Paul supporter. I support what Rand did.

    During this nomination cycle I had to wake up to some cold, hard facts. About 75% of the GOP is anti-Paul, some of them vehemently so, and these people will not be easily won to Paul’s side. About 12% are ardently pro-Paul. Another 13% view Paul favorably.

    Paul’s great success is that he’s grown his base of ardent supporters from 1-2% to the 12% it is now. And he’s gotten an additional 13% to NOT think he’s a nutcase. But the clock has run out for Ron Paul. The question for Paul’s movement now is how someone else can pick up the torch and win over enough people to someday win the GOP nomination.

    How can this new torch-bearer win over enough of that 75% anti-Paul contingent? To answer that question you first, you have to know why they are anti-Paul. I think there are two main reasons:

    a) for Evangelicals Paul is not socially conservative enough. He won’t put an anti-homosexual agenda ahead of his liberty agenda. They don’t like the idea of legalizing drugs and prostitution.
    b) others are against Paul’s foreign policy. They think if close down our foreign bases and stop the wars we’ll lose the War on Terror.

    There used to be a 3rd reason, that people thought the gold standard was nuts, but Paul mostly won on that front (partly because he took a more pragmatic/less ideological position).

    So the question for the liberty movement: will the same methods that got us from point X to Y get us from point Y to Z? That is, can someone keep doing what Paul is doing and bring enough people out of a) and b) above?

    Unfortunately I think the answer is “NO”. I think the solution to getting to 40% support (or whatever it is we need) looks more like Rand than Ron. Rand has mostly the same ideas as Ron, but he presents them differently. More importantly Rand has a different brand than Ron. People perceive him as being more different from Ron than he actually is. Part of the reason is that Ron focuses on the differences between him and Romney and vows to fight on. Rand focuses on the similarities between him and Romney and says Romney is better than Obama.

    Instead of saying “let’s stop the War on Drugs and legalize everything” say “the War on Drugs has failed, we need to return the laws to the states so they can innovate and some states can legalize if that’s what they want.” Instead of saying “let’s close the bases and return the troops” say “war is ugly and costly and should be a last resort, we’ve been too expeditionary and we need to focus more on defending our homeland than building nations abroad.”

    • Ryan I think you have some valid points about messaging. If taken individually, outside of Ron Paul’s particular issues, there is support for many of the things he preaches. However, he doesn’t often present them in the best way which leads to an immediate reaction against them. That can’t be said for all his positions, but some of them. I learned more during this primary season about his views on defense spending than in 2008. He presented the topic differently and explained it clearer to more voters.

    • Ryan Belcher — excellent observations!

      Makes sense on paper. But the following qualifiers put your conclusions in jeopardy.
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      Once the BO gets reelected, we’ll reach the Point of No Return. (Four more years of this usurper will GUARANTEE the disappearance of the 2nd Amendment — and most likely the disappearance of many visible opponents he has, and certainly the core of the supporters of freedom, in their hundreds of thousands, will be whisked away to FEMA Camps, never to be heard of again — thanks to his NDAA). I would not be surprised if the BO in his second term enacts a law whereby He, for the “good of the people”, can be win a third term. All empires end with a dictatorship — and since ours is nearing its end, why expect it to be different. It’s good to be the King — and the BO is a willing Nero (and then his progeny could become a Dynasty). Silly — right…?
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      On the other hand:

      To his own surprise, Ron Paul has reached a stage that could not have been foreseen at the beginning of his campaign. He actually can depend on more committed patriotic delegates, then Rmoney can count on his forced-through “bound ones”!

      I say, push to Tampa — and see how many will vote their Conscience! We might just get surprised how many patriots still exist in our nation!

      • I think we have reached that point of no return as evidence by what it took walker to win. No way Romney can put up that kind of a fight and RP is not going to cave into the unions like Walker did. Liberty will always defeat socialism in the end but it can never compete against it. Who is going to go out and work for a check when you can put your toes in the water, a$$ in the sand and collect one ? Who wants to be a security guard at some mall for $10.00 an hr when there are government police jobs that start at $30.00 per hr. Just read where some Tampa Bay cops bring down better than $125K a year and their community is full of board ups a vacant lots. Right no tax revenue but high paying government jobs for the lucky ones.

          • He pulled a Goldfinger of sort. He didn’t give the police and firemen more, he just gave the rest less thereby making theirs worth more.

      • I could be wrong, but I just don’t see much possibility of the government seizing the membership of the Campaign for Liberty and sending them to concentration camps. There would be too much blowback. Each one of these people has friends and relatives who would notice if they go missing. And while these friends/relatives don’t agree with them politically, they would care that they’re carted off to a concentration camp. The end result would be to empower the liberty movement rather than to weaken it. Why would they do that?

        Political warfare in the US these days is fought with advertising and manipulation of the media. They hire market researchers, psychologists, and brand experts. They do this because it’s proven the most effective strategy.

        I’m not saying we shouldn’t be vigilant against concentration camps. We should be. I just don’t think they’re very likely. Not as likely as a collapse of the currency which is a significant possibility if something doesn’t change soon.

        • I tend to agree but what bothers me is the voters have given government the tools and power to do it if it come to that.

        • Ryan Belcher —

          I agree that the current course will lead to economic collapse firstly.

          My point was for whom are those FEMA camps being built…who will be “relocated” there after the collapse (importing millions of Iranians to fill them, or our own citizens, starting with the most vociferous opponents of the regime in power)?

          • And don’t forget that fence along the southern border, you know the one that RP says has two sides. Most Americans believe it is a one sided fence.

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  4. In a word no, For he that fights and runs away, may live to fight another day, but he, who is in battle slain, can never rise and fight again.

    • After all the needed venting — Let us focus again!

      What, We The People (forget about the rest) must do:

      1) Assure Ron Paul is on the ballot in Tampa (get those needed 5 States affirmed ASAP)!

      2) Assure Ron Paul is on the ballot in Tampa (get those needed 5 States affirmed ASAP)!

      3) Assure Ron Paul is on the ballot in Tampa (get those needed 5 States affirmed ASAP)!
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      Invest all your energy and efforts to ASSURE, ASSURE, ASSURE Ron Paul gets that 5-state plurality!

      His speech alone will Rock the World! And the outcome may shock complacent America!

  5. Ron Paul to WIN — Or America to END 2012!
    (there are no other options!)

    The Mittney will never defeat the BO!

    And If the BO gets reelected, we’ll reach the Point of No Return. (Four more years of this usurper will GUARANTEE the disappearance of the 2nd Amendment — and most likely the disappearance of many visible opponents he has, and certainly the core of the supporters of freedom, in their hundreds of thousands, will be whisked away to FEMA Camps, never to be heard of again — thanks to his NDAA). I would not be surprised if the BO in his second term enacts a law whereby He, for the “good of the people”, can win a third term. All empires end with a dictatorship — and since ours is nearing its end, why expect it to be different. It’s good to be the King — and the BO is a willing Nero (and then his progeny could become a Dynasty).
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    On the other hand:

    To his own surprise, Ron Paul has reached a stage that could not have been foreseen at the beginning of his campaign. He actually can depend on more committed patriotic delegates, then Rmoney can count on his forced-through “bound ones”!

    I say, push to Tampa — and see how many will vote their Conscience! We might just get surprised how many patriots still exist in our nation!

  6. “A good crisis” was “wasted.” Campaign For Liberty was hijacked by Rand. Thank goodness there’s a viable Libertarian candidate in Gary Johnson. For those of you who feel you will be wasting your vote on him because it would deliver the election to the Obama campaign, then obviously you do not understand the “Freedom Movement.” Live Free Or Die meant something before being “plastered” on a license plate. CARRY ON!

    • Just a blip on the radar screen for now anyhow, still way too many hosts out there for the parasites to feed off of.

  7. Ron Paul supporters are some of the most dangerous people to our way of life.
    Not because SOME of his ideas are not good but because those supporters would RATHER reelect Obama and vote for the worst of the evils (a vote for RP is a vote for Obama)than for what they consider the “lessor of two evils.” In other words, Obama is better than Romney. I fully support those RP supporters who say they will support RP until we have a nominee and then support our nominee. Those radical RP supporters may have enough votes in a close election to reelect Obama.
    What Ron Paul and his radical supporters don’t understand is that non RP supporters are affraid of RP and some of his ideas. RP & his supporters look at Romney and see some are not excited about Romney and think the average conservative voter would be MORE supportive of RP — in numbers, not so. Most non RP electorate WILL NOT easily change their allegiance to RP.
    Personally, if Ron Paul were nominated, I would very reluctantly support him as he is still better than Obama.

    • No, no, no. You got to give the voters a positive reason to get out and vote. True you negative rational will win over a few, they will fall way short compared to the masses the show up to vote for Obama. His message is positive, he will take from the haves and give to the have nots. To receive said benefits all you have to do is get off you a$$ and vote.

    • Evelyn —

      “Ron Paul supporters are some of the most dangerous people to our way of life.” True — if your way of life is to be a Subject to the dictates of the Government, and not as Free Citizens that want to enjoy Liberty and Prosperity as our country was meant to guarantee by the Original US Constitution.

      Your gist is ANYONE is better than the BO — and since you recognize that Rmoney could never win — than, what are you going to do to assure that Rmoney quits the race and supports Ron Paul (the only one that can defeat the BO).

      Well…?

  8. Nate: We’ve already written about 20 posts about this.

    We’ve already gone through DENIAL, ANGER, BARGAINING, and DEPRESSION.

    We’ve even seen signs of surrender, but I’m not sure I’d call it “ACCEPTANCE.”

  9. I think it was wrong for Rand Paul to endorse Romney. Couldn’t he wait til Tampa and see if Romney really would be the nominee? Anything could happen. Ron was still trying to get Deleggtes from more States. When Ron’s grandson made the announcement that Ron Paul was not going to bother with the rest of the primaries, we were stunned. Now we are stunned again that Rand picks Romney over his own father. How does that look? I, for one, am devastated. I finally got a chance to vote for Ron in my State of Indiana. I’ve supported him since the 70’s. I thought we were so close! Tampa could have changed everything. I have donated almost every month to Ron Paul’s campaign and now I really feel let down. I just don’t get what is happening. I don’t feel much of America will be left no matter if it’s Obama or Romney. Romney will not change much of anything. What will be left by 2016? To me, it’s now or never!

    • I don’t think it’s fair to feel let down.
      It’s not Ron Paul’s fault that he’s being ignored by the media.
      It’s not Ron Paul’s fault that there is voting fraud in every state.
      It’s not Ron Paul’s fault that most Americans thought he was crazy when he was warning everyone for years what was to come.
      Now all of a sudden, when people begin to listen and pay attention, they feel let down because he can’t win.

      I’m in Canada and I have a Ron Paul bumper sticker and t-shirt that I wear on Mondays and will continue to do so until (at least) the end of the year.

      Why? Because I believe in what he ‘says’. He’s been correct for years. We are starting to feel similarities here in Canada with voter fraud and we are all over that. Appeals, protests, letter, activists etc. We too have a problem with our media. I will NOT let my children and their children feel like their country is owned by the EU. Not on my watch. I will do whatever it takes to make my MP’s accountable and so will others.

      I think of Ron Paul becoming president and then I remember what happened to JFK. He may not become president, but he needs YOUR help by ‘hearing’ and remembering what you are (American) and proud to be so. Do not lose the faith he’s given you. Don’t feel let down or stop supporting him. He may not become President, but he will be a prophet. Best religion I ever heard.

      Ron Paul 2012 for everyone..

  10. I am sorry, but Rand was doing nothing short of covering his own a$$. Sure! That’s his right. But its also his right to relinquish his principles and lose his credibility.

    No matter what happens in November, Ron Paul will be vindicated. If Obama wins, it is because the RNC picked someone conservatives despise. If Romney wins, he will govern about the same as Obama and will preside over a further erosion of civil liberties. A temporary economic recovery might ensue. But not a single major policy that caused the Great Depression, Stagflation, the Dot Com bust, or the Housing bust will have been repealed, reversed, or significantly revised. Everyone will know what (Quit the Fiat Dollar, Cut Spending, and Obey the Constitution) we should have done and who (Ron Paul) would have done it, but it will be too late. Four years of Obama, eight of Romney. It makes no difference.

  11. If Rand ever hoped to take the reins of his father’s revolution, he just make a huge mistake — and, for what? Does he think big government Romney will reward him? Hahahahahahaha…

    • John Pack —

      RAND Paul interview — I watched it several times because it reminded me of something I’ve seen before.

      It finally came to me — Rand looked and sounded like one of the US hostages that were paraded in 1979 on Iranian TV…very eery….

    • I saw Rand as speaking in what he did not believe — just like the US hostages did on Iranian TV (you could not see the gun at their backs, but knew it was there).

      The main similarities that struck me (whereby the hostages were trying to alert us to read between the lines of what they were forced to say): Changes of posture, blinking and then vacantly staring, fluctuation of the voice, unneeded pauses, aversion of eye contact, then direct eye contact (ALL according to the words spoken).

      Draw your own conclusions — but mine are that Rand was FORCED to do it because of a very good reason (one that may not be discussed now)!

      Only a FOOL would assume that a son of Ron Paul’s wonderful family will betray his father (there is a VALID reason behind this move…and that’s all I’ll say about it)!

      Try and read between the lines on your own (and don’t pass it on when you figure it out)!

  12. Now they are doing mass raping of children in Syria. I guess putting bullets in the brains of children wasn’t enough to get the Isolationist like Obama and Ron Paul to admit that Isolationism isn’t the answer.

    Once this country started abortion it has been going downhill. It isn’t that far from killing the unborn to allowing a dictator to rape and kill even children.

    We think it is non of our business and if a true Isolationist like Paul gets in power our morality is done.

    Again we don’t have to invade, occupy and nation build. We do need to bomb the dictator. How has ignoring the problem worked? We have seen them go from shelling, to deliberate killing a point blank range to raping children to get information from them.

    Excuse me if I think the Isolationist are insane. They have been trying this crap for over a hundred years and it always ends with people dying. Sure we sometimes have victims as well but ours is by accident. Dictators make a point of killing children to win.

    Bomb the dictators now.

    • Being the 911 for the world has resulted in a 16 trillion dollar debt. Are you Tim one of the many who want more, much more of the same?

      • Again we don’t have to invade, occupy and nation build. We do need to bomb the dictator. How has ignoring the problem worked? We have seen them go from shelling, to deliberate killing a point blank range to raping children to get information from them.

        • A kill list? ? ? By remote control ? ? ? Without a judge or jury ? ? ? Deems a little un American to me but maybe for Russia. Oh I forgot they are becoming like we were and we are becoming what they were. Da, we make Uncle lo proud.(losif)

          • He is killing and raping kids. Why attack and invade when we can take him out. Save Syrian lives. Save Syrian soldier lives. Save American Solders lives. Kill the dictator. And yes by remote control. Why risk our pilots. Help the Syrians by stopping the killing at the sourch.

            See Ronald Reagan vs Lybian Dictator in the 80’s.

            • Before you take out any “dictator” you have to ask yourself, who you got to replace him. The USA has learned this the hard way more than once for sure.

  13. We rarely see what I talk about used because we have not been able to do it without invading until about 1970. Had we only bombed Hanoi we would have won. We also went in for the national interest which is the wrong reason to go in. If there were not people being killed then we should not go it.

    • My solution to the problem would be to tell [the North Vietnamese Communists] frankly that they’ve got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression or we’re going to bomb them into the Stone Age. And we would shove them back into the Stone Age with Air power or Naval power—not with ground forces.

      Mission With LeMay: My Story (1965), p. 565. In an interview two years after the publication of this book, General LeMay said, “I never said we should bomb them back to the Stone Age. I said we had the capability to do it. I want to save lives on both sides”; reported in The Washington Post (October 4, 1968), p. A8. Many years later LeMay would claim that this was his ghost writer’s overwriting.

      • My 2 cents:

        The BO and Rmoney — both a waste of protoplasm in the attempt to create a human being (such cell formation could only be justified in creating a billy-goat — more precisely a Judas Goat (in the olden days when the sheep were wary to exit the pen to be slaughtered, a Judas Goat was introduced…it led them through the gate, where it passed safely, while the sheep that followed it got their brains bashed in)).

  14. I still think this was a plan to have Rand kiss up to the establishment, then have Ron threaten to bring the house down.

    Since Rand made himself seem harmless, the NeoCons and Banksters think they can shut up Ron by picking Rand as Veep and not lose anything, since the vice presidency is worthless, except to break ties in the Senate.

    I think that’s the plan. I don’t think it will work, and if it did, it’d be meaningless.

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