Hillary Clinton has been fairly quiet as of late but has recently made a few public statements. Her status for running in 2016 remains probable and a question she answered while speaking to the National Association of Convenience Stores on Tuesday sheds some light on who she thinks one of her opponents might be.

Report from Atlanta Journal Constitution:

No ears reported any mention of whatever 2016 ambitions Clinton might have. But state Rep. Tom Taylor, R-Dunwoody, said the former first lady dropped a huge hint. “I know she’s running for president now, because toward the end, she was asked about the Osama bin Laden raid. She took 25 minutes to answer,” Taylor said. “Without turning the knife too deeply, she put it to [Vice President Joe] Biden.”

Time and time again, Taylor said, Clinton mentioned the vice president’s opposition to the raid, while characterizing herself and Leon Panetta, then director of the Central Intelligence Agency, as the action’s most fierce advocates.

About 3,000 to 4,000 convention-goers packed the Thomas Murphy Ballroom in the Georgia World Congress Center to hear Clinton. The bin Laden query was the last of a Q-and-A session with the audience. “She took the rest of the time and went over, answering that question. She was ready to speak on that,” Taylor said.

President Obama’s message in 2008: “GM is alive and Osama Bin Laden is dead.” Hillary Clinton’s message in 2016: “Osama Bin Laden is dead and I supported it.” Alright, maybe that boils down too simple.

Some politicos are discounting Joe Biden’s ability to fight against the Clinton machine if he chooses to launch a campaign in 2016. I used to be in that camp before examining Biden’s ability to connect with certain segments of voters. I still think it’s an uphill climb for him but he could have more support than conventional wisdom holds.


  1. I’m not sure you’ll get any other posts to this topic, but I think you’re right. Biden does seem to be popular among white working men, which has been a weak spot for the Democrats.

  2. Well, wait, I guess there is one other thing to say. Hillary may be barking up the wrong tree. Certainly, we’re glad to be rid of bin Laden, but the American people are so sick of war that complaining that Biden is not enough of a hawk may not help her campaign.

    • Here’s a question then. Does your logic apply to Hillary the same way it applies to Biden? Identity politics being what it is these days..

  3. Nate: I’m not sure what your question is.

    I suppose if you’re asking what could Biden say that would be as inappropriate and counterproductive as what Hillary said about Biden, I guess Biden could make some smart remark about Benghazi.

    I think it was a mistake for Hillary to leave the administration. She didn’t really have any gravitas before she was Secretary of State. And now that she’s out of office, she has to do publicity stunts to get attention. If she had become, say, a policy adviser or something, she could be quoted on official matters on a regular basis. And, of course, she’d add to her resume, instead of “unemployed.” We remember how helpful that was for Willard.

    Anyway, I don’t think there’s any reason for Biden to attack Hillary. He’s Vice President, which is often a stepping stone to the top office. And, as we saw in the current negotiations, people were saying “unleash Biden” as a tough glad-hander.

    Biden’s secret weapon is that he’s seen as a Dufus, just as W was. So he’ll be seen to be doing well if he doesn’t trip on hs tongue. That’s a low bar.

  4. MUST SEE — superb 17 minute video by Ron Paul.


    Concisely describes our current state as a nation, and what will inescapably follow.

    Make it viral — America needs to wake up, to comprehend the EVIL that is the Obama Administration. And Obama’s probable endgame to declare Martial Law, and thus suspend elections and finally achieve his goal since childhood to become King (look up video 3 at minute 5:45 — he writes on his school steps “King Obama” as a child)!

    The below is a MUST SEE — “Who exactly is Barrack Hussein Obama?”

    part one:


    part two:


    part three:


      • The easiest solution TO STOP OBAMACARE FROM DESTROYING US, is to impeach Obama on his failure to provide a valid birth certificate, which he STILL refuses to do!

        Call your Reps AND ALSO FAX them the below (since phone calls never get you to your actual Representative) — FAX this:

        “We demand that an investigation be started in Congress BY YOU, dear Congressman, as to Obama’s failure to SHOW HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS OF YET — no copies, please, since no US Citizen could get anywhere with a Copy, but MUST show the ORIGINAL (what makes Barrack Hussein Obama ABOVE the Law NOT TO DO what WE ALL American Citizens must do)!
        Why won’t Obama show his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate — “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about!” (that is his mantra on the NSA spying on US)! So, what is Barrack Hussein Obama hiding from Congress and We the People — as per this video:


        Dear Congressman, if you are unwilling to start such an investigation, be assured we won’t be willing to cast our votes for you come election time!”

        Fax this Patriot in my home state (and also your Reps):

        Texas congressman Steve Stockman:

        Fax: 202-226-0396

        • Surf: What does this have to do with Hillary or Biden? As usual, your post is irrelevant.

          And, worse, it’s spam from one link to another. Nate already warned you about that.

          • Goethe Behr — you mean like the below post you copied and pasted on all previous threads?

            Get a life — lowlife. You are nothing here, but the forum’s #1 dolt…now that Tess Liehard is gone (if she comes back, then you’ll be a number two…again….).

            Goethe Behr — October 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm ·

            “…Both houses just voted unanimously to pay government workers retroactively for time lost. I mean, it was a nice thing to do, for people who are being used as pawns.

            HOWEVER, how can Tea Party legislators rationalize paying people for NOT working?? Isn’t that exactly counterpoint to the Tea Party philosophy? If they’re not on salary, shouldn’t they be paid only for the hours they work?”

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