Later this evening Larry King will host the Free & Equal Elections Foundation’s independent candidate debate live from Chicago, Illinois. The debate will cover a whole range of issues and, most notably, will not include President Obama or Governor Romney.

Full Debate Video:

Air Time: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 at 9pm et / 8pm ct / 7pm mt / 6pm pt

TV Channels: C-SPAN, RT America, Al Jazeera English (Don’t email me asking how to find these channels besides C-SPAN)

Participants: Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode, and Justice Party candidate Rocky Anderson

Details from Free and Equal:

Free and Equal Elections Foundation, the only organization offering a platform to every major candidate, today announced that Larry King, host of Larry King Now on Hulu.com and Ora TV, will serve as moderator for its special 2012 Presidential debate. Hosted by Free and Equal, this debate will take place on October 23 at 9:00pm EDT at the Hilton Chicago. Ora TV, Russia Today, and the Free and Equal Elections Foundation will broadcast the debate live on the Internet.

We will have the live stream embedded here as well as the complete video after it airs.

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  1. Is there anybody OUT there?

    Is there anybody OUT there?

    Is there anybody OUT there?

    Is there anybody OUT there. . .

    Hello?
    Is there anybody IN there?
    Just nod if you can hear me.
    Is there anyone at home?
    Come on, now,
    I hear you’re feeling down.
    Well I can ease your pain
    Get you on your feet again.
    Relax.
    I’ll need some information first.
    Just the basic facts.
    Can you show me where it hurts?

    There is no pain you are receding
    A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
    You are only coming through in waves.
    Your lips move but I can’t hear what you’re saying.
    When I was a child I had a fever
    My hands felt just like two balloons.
    Now I’ve got that feeling once again
    I can’t explain you would not understand
    This is not how I am.
    I have become comfortably numb.

    O.K.
    Just a little pinprick.
    There’ll be no more aaaaaaaaah!
    But you may feel a little sick.
    Can you stand up?
    I do believe it’s working, good.
    That’ll keep you going through the show
    Come on it’s time to go.

    There is no pain you are receding
    A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
    You are only coming through in waves.
    Your lips move but I can’t hear what you’re saying.
    When I was a child
    I caught a fleeting glimpse
    Out of the corner of my eye.
    I turned to look but it was gone
    I cannot put my finger on it now
    The child is grown,
    The dream is gone.
    I have become comfortably numb.

  2. .

    Did you see the frightened ones?
    Did you hear the falling bombs?
    Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the
    promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue
    sky?

    Did you see the frightened ones?
    Did you hear the falling bombs?
    The flames are all gone, but the pain lingers on.

    Goodbye, blue sky
    Goodbye, blue sky.
    Goodbye.
    Goodbye.
    Goodbye.

  3. (It’s just you an’ me, kid.)

    What shall

    we use

    To fill

    the empty spaces

    Where we used

    to talk?

    How shall

    I fill

    The final places?

    How can I

    complete the wall

  4. . . .

    Hey you,
    standing in the road
    always doing what you’re told,
    Can you help me?

    Hey you,
    out there beyond the wall,
    Breaking bottles in the hall,
    Can you help me?

    Hey you,
    don’t tell me there’s no hope at all
    Together we stand,
    divided we fall.

    We fall
    we fall
    we fall
    we fall

  5. I think they made great points, and some had some ideas that are honestly feesable.

    I am tired of the corportate talking heads of the current party. I was shocked to learn that Gary Johnson has apparently stolen my ideas over the last couple of decades;-). Honestly, I hope that he get’s atleast 5% for funding, and runs in 2016. As it is so late in the game, the lobbyists have this one locked up again.

    • Val:

      What we need to do is find a way to force the debate commission to allow in EVERY candidate who qualifies in enough states to get 270 electoral votes. That would be a game-changer that would break the stranglehold the two parties have now.

      • I think you have to pay for the TV time, well someone does. Then there is the millions of dollars spent on commercials. 3rd party people usually don’t have the cash.

    • I’m going to vote for him but he sure doesn’t look presidential to me. (Li’l Abner Yokum). He has the track record though and that’s what counts in my book anyhow.

      • Billy:

        Yeah, considering that he was governor, you’d think the GOP would have honed his image for him.

        Maybe the fact that he does NOT come off as packaged, processed, and pretty is proof that he puts principle above presentation.

        • The guy shrunk the state government, canned 1200 employees, left with a billion surplus.

          How could anyone not vote for this guy. He start a business with an army of one and in a few years there are over 1000 on the payroll. Johnson can indeed walk on water.

          I read the guy’s rap sheet to my GF and ask if she would vote for a guy like that. No way, he is way too radical.

          In what way, I ask. Oh those 1200 employees he got rid of, that was way too many. So how many do you think he should of canned. ………..none as Romney is going to hire more thus putting more people back to work.

          • Gary Johnson is the only sane choice to vote — or face either of the two evils destroying our nation beyond the point of no return!

            • Surfisher:

              AND–this year is unique, since his programs appeal to both liberals (anti-war, anti-drug war) and conservatives (spending cuts)–so that he would not be a “spoiler.”

              A vote for Gary will NOT hurt either candidate. It will just show that we say two parties are no longer enough.

            • But how do you get people to stop listening and start looking at what their candidate has done and not what he says he will do. Clear as a bell to me but my GF says he is too radical. She is going with Romney because she doesn’t like Obama.

            • Little early but I’ll drink to that. Hey things would be a little rough on a few people for a while under Johnson but he would create a million jobs overnight for sure. He is the only man on the slate with the track record to back up everything he says.

    • Surfisher:

      I have come to realize that NOBODY on here goes to a link. So we should tell them why Ron Paul said Romney had the WORST line of the night in Monday’s debate:

      FALSE PATRIOTISM:

      “Romney was especially bad last night about it and really going after the president, saying that. . .you want to apologize for America and admit that America tends to aggress toward other people, and he says, ‘don’t you know that America ALWAYS promotes freedom and prosperity for everybody around the world.’ That I thought was the worst line of the evening.”

      And–FALSE ECONOMICS

      “He wants to immediately call China a manipulator of their currency–Who’s the greatest manipulator of currencies in the history of the world? But we’re allowed to have a weak currency. They falsely believe, of course, that helps us, which it doesn’t. But if anyone else does it, we yell and scream unfair trade practices.”

      • Get real, the average voter has no idea of what you are posting about. Are you saying that America doesn’t ALWAYS promotes freedom and prosperity for everybody around the world.’ ….Pure blasphemy you heretic. LOL

  6. My take grading the four:

    The Green lady made some good points — overall decent performance. C+

    The Justice guy was mostly a wack-job — F

    The Constitution guy tried too hard to sound like a homespun southerner —and, while making some small valid points, contributed little, so is graded at D-

    Gary Johnson — the Libertarian — was nearly SPOT ON on all issues! A- (deducting for the pro-choice statement, which seems to matter to some).
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    Therefore:

    VOTE for GARY JOHNSON — AND NO ONE ELSE — or give up on our Free Nation!

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    • But only one out of the 4 was pro war on drugs. Now the pro choice and drugs issue are indeed baggage for Gary. On every issue you take a stand you lose votes. Got lots of voter out here that think the war on drugs is a good thing and the same voter will say ending prohibition was good. How do you reason with people that run on pure emotion?

      • Billy:

        I don’t think it’s emotion. It’s just being so inundated with propaganda. They’ve been told DRUGS BAD so much that it is just an assumption.

        Since alcohol is everywhere, they can’t comprehend not having it, so Prohibition seems like a bizarre idea. Likewise, since we HAVE prohibition of pot, that seems like it must be right–or why would we do it?

        So it’s not really emotion, it’s just not wanting to consider something other than they see.

        • What seems and what is …………..the world just isn’t that big anymore. Our politician should go to places where it is and where it isn’t then come back and try it out in a small section, refine it, optimize it, then a go or no go for the country.

          Just like a flow chart, seems pretty simple but they ain’t going to do it. So we are at a point where we should decide if it’s what they want, what’s in it for me. Nothing in the free cell phone program for me.

  7. Why not write-in Ron Paul, but VOTE for Gary Johnson!

    The Establishment fears Ron Paul so much that they will do anything to stop him and his (our) movement for Liberty on the election level (since so far they have not been able to control the internet, and thus shut us down completely)!

    The Major Networks will show after the election NOTHING for Ron Paul (not even that he got ANY of the Vote, for that would be admitting that some actually dared to write-in his name).

    The Apparatchiks have been told to shred all write-in ballots where Ron Paul’s name appears (for proof just watch after the election and see if Ron Paul is even mentioned, let alone how many votes he got)!

    Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 States — so a vote for him is a vote COUNTED against the wannabe despots of America! (Plus, if he breaks the 5+% level, the Libertarian Party (Ron Paul’s original party) will be eligible for federal funds to the tune of about 90 million dollars for the next election — and no longer will be a financial shoe-string operation!!!)

    VOTE GARY JOHNSON (or write-in Ron Paul) — as long as you vote for what you realize is BEST for our Nation, and NOT get bamboozled into voting again for the “lesser” of two evils (this path only leads to more and bigger evil, for the next election cycle…should there be one)!!!

    • Surfisher:

      I think you should have been more direct. That is, if you agree with Ron Paul, VOTE for Gary Johnson.

      The two agree on most things, and they will HAVE to report that Gary Johnson got SOME votes, or it would all look like a sham. But, as you say, they will never acknowledge write in votes.

      • VOTE for Gary Johnson (do not write-in Ron Paul, please)!

        Here is why:

        The Establishment fears Ron Paul so much that they will do anything to stop him and his (our) movement for Liberty on the election level.

        The Apparatchiks have been instructed to shred all write-in ballots where Ron Paul’s name appears (for proof just watch after the election and see if Ron Paul is even mentioned, let alone how many votes he got)!

        Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 States — and agrees with about 90% of what Ron Paul stands for — so a vote for him is a vote COUNTED against the wannabe despots of America! (Plus, if he breaks the 5+% level, the Libertarian Party (Ron Paul’s original party) will be eligible for federal funds to the tune of about 90 million dollars for the next election — and no longer will be a financial shoe-string operation!!!).

        VOTE GARY JOHNSON — do NOT get bamboozled into voting for the “lesser of two evils”: the Kenyan Barack or Mitt the Mormon!

        (how’s this Behr?)

        • Surfisher:

          Did you get the mailing from Ron Paul.com today?? It’s a poll asking for whom Ron Paul fans will be voting, and they give “write in Ron Paul” as an option. It was just an informal poll, but it looked like they were suggesting a write-in, which seems counterproductive, to me.

  8. Would ask all that find merit in the below to SPREAD IT! Thanks.
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    VOTE for Gary Johnson (do not write-in Ron Paul, please)!

    Here is why:

    The Establishment fears Ron Paul so much that they will do anything to stop him and his (our) movement for Liberty on the election level (since so far they have not been able to control the internet, and thus shut us down completely)!

    The Major Networks will show after the election NOTHING for Ron Paul (not even that he got ANY of the Vote, for that would be admitting that some actually dared to write-in his name).

    The Apparatchiks have been instructed to shred all write-in ballots where Ron Paul’s name appears (for proof just watch after the election and see if Ron Paul is even mentioned, let alone how many votes he got)!

    Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 States — so a vote for him is a vote COUNTED against the wannabe despots of America! (Plus, if he breaks the 5+% level, the Libertarian Party (Ron Paul’s original party) will be eligible for federal funds to the tune of about 90 million dollars for the next election — and no longer will be a financial shoe-string operation!!!).

    VOTE GARY JOHNSON (or write-in Ron Paul if you must) — as long as you vote for what you realize is BEST for our Nation, and NOT get bamboozled into voting again for the “lesser of two evils”: the Kenyan Barack or Mitt the Mormon (this path only leads to more and bigger evil, for the next election cycle…should there be one)!!!

  9. Amazing that the people have been bamboozled into thinking that either Barack or Mitt are a solution — when both are AGAINST these principles upon which our Nation was built!

    PRINCIPLES we must stand by!

    “A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have….” Thomas Jefferson

    “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

    “When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered.” DOROTHY THOMPSON

    “Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will.” FREDERICK DOUGLAS

    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.” —Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing” EDMUND BURKE

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ABRAHAM LINCOLN
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    Voting for either anti-American would be legitimizing the further government corruption that seems to have no end!

    VOTE for Garry Johnson — who stands for these principles, or face the dire consequences of failing to do so — TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA!

  10. Barack wants to destroy our Freedoms and our Nation — he is the evil we know!

    But, if Mitt gets into the White House — expect An American Tragedy!

    His 5 Mormon Sons are getting groomed to take over…and create a Dynasty of little Mormon Mitts for decades to come!

    Now, that is truly scary!
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    Vote Gary Johnson — do not vote for the lesser of these two evils!

    • Yeah but Gary is against NDAA, The Patriot Act, TARP, the TSA, any type of gun control, I mean this guy is a true American. Like where are all those Federal “workers” going to find jobs. We all know what he did when he was governor, fired 1200 state workers on day one. Only left with a billion dollar surplus. Sorry Surfisher, it’s debt, debt, we want debt, the cry of the voters.

      • Unless you VOTE for Gary Johnson — we won’t have an Election, but puppet Selection!

        You want a prediction — here is an APODICTIC one:

        The American People LOOSE, regardless which one of these two puppets (Barack Hussein or Mormon Mitt) gets “elected”!

        (PLEASE, SPREAD THIS — THERE IS TIME LEFT TO INFLUENCE THE UNDECIDED!)

  11. FYI — The Mormons stripped the richest man in the world, Howard Hughes, not only of his life, but his entire fortune!

    Now another Mormon could do the same to our entire Nation…if it gets elected!

    Vote for Anyone, but Mitt the American Destroyer!
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    I chose to vote for Ron Paul’s Libertarian Party — Gary Johnson this time, who is on all 50 State Ballots. And should Ron Paul run again in 2016, he’s only option will be the Libertarian Ticket!!!!!

    A Vote for the Libertarian Candidate NOW, is a vote for Ron Paul later!

      • Amazing that the people have been bamboozled into thinking that either Barack Hussein or Mormon Mitt are a solution — when both are AGAINST these principles upon which our Nation was built!

        PRINCIPLES we must stand by!

        “A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have….” Thomas Jefferson

        “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

        “When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered.” DOROTHY THOMPSON

        “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.” —Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

        “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing” EDMUND BURKE

        “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ABRAHAM LINCOLN
        —————————————————————————–

        Voting for either anti-American — Barack the Kenyan or Mitt the Mexican Mormon — would only be legitimizing the further government corruption that seems to have no end!

        VOTE for Garry Johnson — who stands for these principles, and is on nearly all 50 States ballots (unlike my 1st choice, Ron Paul, who is NOT on ANY States ballots) or face the dire consequences of failing to do so — TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA!

        VOTE GARY JOHNSON — the only REAL AMERICAN LEFT on the BALLOT!

  12. Just Say NO to Rmoney — VOTE for ANYONE but Mormon Mitt!

    The Mormons stripped the richest man in the world, Howard Hughes, not only of his life, but his entire fortune (that is how the Mormons got financial power to jump start their cult)!

    Now another Mormon wants to do the same to our entire Nation!
    And his 5 Mormon Sons are waiting in line to finish US off!

    *Vote FOR Gary Johnson* — Do NOT vote for Mormon Mitt (or Barack Hussein) the lesser of two evils!

  13. VOTE GARY JOHNSON — or see our Nation END 2012!

    Just Say NO to Rmoney — VOTE for ANYONE but Mormon Mitt!

    Keep Mitt’s mittens off of the White House — or face An American Tragedy!

    The Mormons stripped the richest man in the world, Howard Hughes, not only of his life, but his entire fortune (that is how the Mormons got financial power to jump start their cult)!

    Now another Mormon wants to do the same to our entire Nation!
    And his 5 Mormon Sons are waiting in line of a Rmoney Dynasty to finish US off!

    *Vote FOR Gary Johnson* — Do NOT vote for Mormon Mitt (or Barack Hussein) the lesser of two evils!

  14. *NEWS FLASH, NEWS FLASH, NEWS FLASH*

    Today, 11-09-2012, Ron Paul speaks out against all the evils that we are now facing!

    Watch this 30 minutes video and spread it like wild fire!

    (No longer encumbered by having to choose his words, while running for the presidency, Ron Paul NOW speaks his mind — AND ALL SHOULD LISTEN)!

    Mark my words — freed from the confines of playing the NECESSARY TACTICAL Game in the chase of getting elected — Ron Paul will NOW have a much greater impact in reaching all people!

    There cannot be a debate that Ron Paul is the Greatest TRUE AMERICAN of the 21st Century!

    And NOW, his words will reach even greater audiences that will DELIVER HIS MESSAGE OF THE LIBERTY MOVEMENT as our Nation further slides into Poverty and Despotism by the Criminals that are In Power of Our Government Today!

    Watch this video from minute 33:23 till 58:49!

    (Huckster Alex Jones is tolerable — since Ron Paul is talking)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbg8ranlUjU&feature=player_embedded

  15. Principles we must stand by!

    “A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have….” Thomas Jefferson

    “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

    “Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them — and then, the opportunity to choose.” C. WRIGHT MILLS

    “When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered.” DOROTHY THOMPSON

    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”—Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing” EDMUND BURKE

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ABRAHAM LINCOLN

    “We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.
    But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn’t doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.” — Written in a letter by then former President Theodore Roosevelt on January 3, 1919 to the president of the American Defense Society.

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